@Dvsespaña: ‘that’s what happens in conflicts’, but the conflict shouldn’t be happening in the first place. It’s Putin’s fault that it is.

@J Ven: The reality of Ukraine both currently and in the years between the fall of the Soviet Union and the Russian invasion, is not as simplistic or clear cut as the Russians are bad, Ukrainians are good, Americans are best of all, frankly the ludicrous designations we have been invited to believe, don’t stand up to reading a history book or reviewing the available facts, rather than blindly accepting a bite sized spoon fed finger painted picture of geopolitics, look beyond the propaganda on all sides.

@Brendan O’Brien: it’s the indiscriminate bombing in the east of Ukraine since 2014 trying to get rid or kill Russian speaking Ukrainians because they wanted self rule but be still part of Ukraine. So after 10 years of looking for help from Russia, they crossed the border to shield them from a planned invasion to overwhelm the rebels by 100,000 Ukraine troops backed by the USA. So it was the USAs fault. They saw an excuse to use Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia. Ukraine is now falling apart.

@Dvsespaña: In fairness, I say 99.9% of the world wants that to happen. The 00.1% who don’t are either allies, or the troll bots that plague social media.

@brendan C5: You really do swallow Russian propaganda whole.

@Brendan O’Brien: presumably another russian bit. Anybody who bothers to check Ukrainian history can see through this nonsense. On that basis, only somebody in thrall to or in the pay of putin could even contemplate pushing this narrative. Putin is an imperialist adventurer. His govt colleagues beneficiaries of this. Lavrov peskov and others are the leeches that cling to and feed off putin, along with RT, diplomats like the mudak filatov. In fairness to Xi, at least he does it with style

@Brendan O’Brien: tell me how it’s Putins fault? He waited years, in fact some say too long, for a peace deal. He even recommended Donbass region not to join with Russia and instead make an agreement with Ukraine. Unfortunately Ukrainian troops, backed by NATO, built up in the east ready to ethnically cleanse the Russian speakers and Russia had no choice but to intervene. Since the US backed coup in 2014, Russians and Russian speaking Ukrainians have been vilified and dehumanised to justify an unnecessary war. Please look up Victoria Nuland’s phonecall and John Mearsheimer on YouTube.

@Brendan O’Brien: No conflict should ever happen, but alas, it’s been going on since the dawn of humanity. It’s all about power and resources. People have been forced to fight for what their leaders want.The use of religion was used to effectively brainwash people into fighting for their gods over others, race was used to fight against invaders of you leaders land. The good guy in any conflict is always the victor. It doesn’t matter who started or why it was started. Conflicts are never black and white. To Russia we’re seen as the bad guy just as we see them as the bad guy. Putin for sure is a “bad guy”, but by equal measure the USA is just as bad. Nato is just as bad. Citizens of these countries are all forced and brainwashed to fight for what they perceive to be right by their leaders who only care about wealth and legacy. If Ukraine win the west is good russia bad and usa is the corporate, capitalist, hero who saved the day. American and EU interests will make billions rebuilding ukraine and get the resources there to. If Russia wins it will go down as the hero who stood up against the western Corporatocracy who sought to cripple their way of life and steal their resources and the american and european interests will still make billions rebuilding ukraine and Russia. Social media is the modern weapon used to brainwash and control the narrative by bombarding one side of the argument with biased rhetoric. It creates trolls who demonise those who would question the war on all sides and claim its side is the seeker of righteousness. The reality is the current economic structure of the “superpowers” requires conflict to drive the economy and keep the elite rich. To think putin is any more or less evil than his western counterparts is naive, and to suggest his invasion is wrong just because it’s not your side of the conflict is simplistic. We assume it’s just Putin’s ego driving the war, but in reality one man can’t control an entire nation no matter how deranged and powerful we’re led to believe he is. It’s a conflict driven and manipulated by the global superpowers. I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if putin is having tea and biscuits with the Americans laughing and having a bit of craic about the wealth the war is, and will be, generating for them all.

@Brendan O’Brien: Others believe in western propaganda. Swings and roundabouts. The reality is that this war is being encouraged by both NATO to promote them and enable their expansion, the USA to enable them to profit from war, and Russia to profit from war and gain a bit of land. The only losers will be the Russian and Ukrainian citizens forced to die and fight for their respective leaders wealth generation.

@Dan Skelton: So in your expert estimation based on a strict diet of simplistic propaganda, you believe that 99% of the world wants to elevate the current proxy war conflict in Ukraine, into a global nuclear world war three, that eventually kills every living thing on the planet? You are obviously a genius and definitely not a troll bot and part of the problem…

@Dvsespaña: and all this would have been avoided had Putin shelved his imperialist ambitions.

@Dvsespaña: not that I’d agree with taking out anyone but of course – it surely would solve a lot of Ukraines problems

@Roy Dowling: Gaza is not Palestine, and Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 – leaving a well developed region and abandoning all their settlements.
The Gaza population failed to build on this opportunity and instead they elected a terrorist organisation to run the territory.
What could go wrong? – with their main objective being to turn their water mains pipes into rockets, build tunnels instead of schools and invent the suicide vest for use in Israeli restaurants.

@Maniac 2000: Ok, lets look at this logically. Russia under Putin illegally invaded Ukraine, but not in an unprovoked attack, there was lots of provocation, does that justify the Russian invasion? No, but you can see why it might from their perspective.

The USA have pushed NATO up to the borders of Russia, with Ukraine being the most in their face middle finger of all.

In addition attacks on ethnic Russian Ukrainians living in the separatist areas, which were back by US intelligence services to poke the bear using Ukrainian assets from Neo Nazi groups in Ukraine, this isn’t some crazy conspiracy theory, its documented fact along with secret CIA Black sites that have been operating in Ukraine for years.

Russia has despite slaughtering tens of thousands of Ukrainians, fought this conflict with one or more hands behind its back. Russia is a nuclear super power that has not even unleased its full conventional power against Ukraine to date.

But if Putin was “Taken out” as numerous self appointed military experts that were all battle hardened in the campaigns of call of duty suggest, that itself would probably escalate the conflict straight to nuclear, because his successor would seek to stamp their authority on Russia and to be seen as the defender of Russia in the aftermath of its leader being assassinated.

We are as closer to nuclear war than we have ever been, the last time was when the Soviet Union tried to put it’s missiles in Cuba, which ironically doesn’t actually border the USA.

@087 bed: you really shout get out more.

@Des Hanrahan: that account is new to me too. Suspicious, isnt it