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Column ‘Getting a job is the worst thing that’s ever happened to us’

A mother describes how finding work has left her family worse off than in unemployment, thanks to what she believes is a broken system.

A woman working in Dublin tells of her experience being caught in a system where she says you are rewarded with benefits when unemployed only to have them stripped from you immediately and placed on the bread line when you enter back into the work place.

I’m at a loss for words to describe what has happened to my family. My partner and I have a gorgeous new baby and he has children from a previous relationship with whom we spend a fair amount of time.

He has been out of work for a while now and paying €100 euro per week out of his social welfare in maintenance – this was court ordered whilst he was on jobseeker’s benefit. I was out of work since the baby, but with the help of family and rent allowance we just about got by.

‘I got a full time job last month, delighted! Finally some light at the end of the tunnel, right?’

We were both living off my state maternity benefit and neither of us could get work, so we decided to move closer to where the jobs are. This meant the rent we were paying out doubled. Finally and thankfully I got a full time job last month, delighted! Finally some light at the end of the tunnel right? Wrong.

Even though my new job was far away, I didn’t mind, it was work. At this stage I thought it was our chance to get back on the food chain.

We did the right thing and told the social welfare I had secured a job. I was claiming jobseeker’s benefit when I was out of work. Within a week of me getting a job, my partner got a letter to say that we were being assessed – and in the meantime of the assessment his jobseeker’s benefit was being stopped.

‘We were told something different from everybody’

There was no pre-warning – that was in the first week in April and I was not due to be paid until the last week in April. I was now in the situation where we had no income whatsoever, so I had to go to the welfare officer to see if they could tide me over until I get paid. We were told something different from everybody. When we dropped in all the information they had asked for – like my contract saying what I was earning as I hadn’t received a payslip yet – we were told that was fine.

We asked did they take into account the maintenance that we were paying, the travel expenses I had to get to work – she said all that was taken into account. The community welfare officer then told us that they take it on the gross earnings and that there was absolutely nothing they could do for us as I was working.

I just can’t believe it. They will only take into account my gross income, they ignore that a large portion of my salary goes on tax, PRSI and USC. And they ignore the fact that I’ve to travel 100 kilometres each way to get to work so with diesel and tolls it costs me around €140 a week just to get there and back. And they ignore the fact that my partner has court ordered maintenance to pay out of that dole payment.

‘The social welfare said “Do you have any idea of just how busy it is in here?”’

When I called in relation to the matter the person at the social welfare office said “Do you have any idea of just how busy it is in here?” When I said I understood she told me that I was just lip-syncing and that I didn’t understand. She was just so rude – she had no compassion for my situation, no empathy. I complained and asked for a supervisor to call me – none did.

When we were cut off we went into arrears on the child maintenance payment and the thing with family law is that you cannot stop paying that unless a court order says so – you are liable for the arrears. So until we get a date we are now in arrears for hundreds until our case is heard. We don’t know when that date will be but the figure is clocking up every week.

‘The community welfare officer told us in no uncertain terms that we are entitled to nothing’

We have already been told that if he does not uphold the payments until the case is heard that he can be locked up for breaching the court order. This is likely to happen but it will solely come down to the judge on the day. How is that just? As it stands we can’t afford car tax, there is no home heating oil in the house (with a  newborn baby and  other children there also) and the community welfare officer told us in no uncertain terms that we are entitled to nothing because I’m working and earning over €312, they won’t even look at it.

So that is what we have to live on – two adults, a newborn baby and the other children.

I feel I am being encouraged not to work and what really upset me is my partner has worked since he was 16, he has paid tax in his own right, he has paid PRSI, he has supported his family up until he could no longer do so, he has earned the right to earn jobseeker’s while he is out of work.

He was self-employed for most of the past decade and before that he was employed elsewhere.  The sickening thing is that the Department of Social Welfare and Family have made him 100 per cent dependent on me. I now have two dependents, him and my baby. I called the Revenue to try and claim my partner’s tax credits and I was told “sorry you’re only cohabiting, you’re not married so you’re not entitled to anything”.

‘The people who are up front and honest are the ones being punished for not being married’

I know the argument that they are trying to protect the institution of marriage – but I belong to a family unit too and it is almost like we are being encouraged to break up. Even the pressure of the financial end of it is what can create family units breaking up, that is the fact of it. There are so many people out there that are living together and claiming single parents’ allowance and their rent allowance while the people who are up front and honest are the ones that are being discriminated against and punished for not being married.

The social welfare system appeals are taking over six months, so what are we going to do? Getting a job is the worst thing that’s ever happened to us. If I gave up work tomorrow I would get it all – rent allowance and social welfare. It just doesn’t make sense.

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    May 16th 2013, 1:17 PM

    They want to charge for water of that quality? What tablets are they on?

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    May 16th 2013, 1:54 PM

    Water tablets probably.

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    Mute FreeLPT
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    May 16th 2013, 5:29 PM

    …and they shouldn’t have to pay LPT either in our opinion

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    Mute Eamonn Boyle
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    May 16th 2013, 1:27 PM

    Ahhhh Bisto.

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    Mute Genius
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    May 16th 2013, 2:05 PM

    You would get a nice tanned glow after a wash in that stuff.

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    Mute David Ganly
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    May 16th 2013, 4:50 PM

    as a fellow used to say to me in the pub years ago ‘ if you can’t drink it, rub it in ‘

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    Mute Chris Mansfield
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    May 16th 2013, 1:24 PM

    In an ideal world, local councils would take care of this work and have tax raising powers and then fund this work themselves.

    But it suits everyone to have the current situation. The sitting opposition TD gets to make a song a dance about it. eventually, the minister gets to show his patronage and the sitting government TD can be pictured at some sod turning ceremony.

    In the meantime, the person who needs to drink the water puts up with that.

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    Mute Grace Murphy
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    May 16th 2013, 1:20 PM

    Not a hope I’ll be paying any water related charges they plan on bringing in! So gross.

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    Mute Paul Doyle
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    May 16th 2013, 1:21 PM

    I’d rather have that billion year old stuff than that !!!

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    Mute _doesnotcompute
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    May 16th 2013, 2:10 PM

    Maybe you can enlighten us then Grace. Where will the Councils get the money to fix this if no-one pays water rates???

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    Mute aisling doyle
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    May 16th 2013, 2:22 PM

    Take a cut in their wages & unjust expenses maybe .. That’s a start .

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    Mute M Bowe
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    May 16th 2013, 6:54 PM

    Start with taking a proper commercial tax rate from google amazon etc. they basically tax free.

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    Mute Bridget
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    May 18th 2013, 12:35 AM

    I thought they got it already originally from the car tax

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    Mute rocky
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    May 16th 2013, 1:57 PM

    The water in Donegal looks like that. The water in Roscommon has cryptosporidiosis, Galway water gets it every couple of years…. and our government wants us to pay for it..ya that makes sense!

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    Mute Petr Tarasov
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    May 16th 2013, 2:00 PM

    As scandalous as it was, the effected only a small part of Galway. The water in Galway in general is delish.

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    Mute Donal O Neil
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    May 17th 2013, 1:32 PM

    You lucky lucky b……..ds. All we get in cork is drinking water with nothing in it your so lucky you are .

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    Mute Eoghan Wallace
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    May 16th 2013, 1:22 PM

    Looks like a stream of tomato soup.

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    Mute Scarr
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    May 16th 2013, 2:33 PM

    It reminded me that I haven’t had a cup of tea all day.

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    Mute Daniel Dunne
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    May 16th 2013, 1:27 PM

    If that is what the flouride is doing to the old pipes, i’d hate to see what it’s doing to our insides! :p

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    Mute Stephen
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    May 16th 2013, 1:34 PM

    Smithwick’s on tab?!!! Ya lucky feckers!

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    Mute Gareth Walker-Ayers
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    May 16th 2013, 1:44 PM

    Sure just boil it. Be grand.

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    Mute David Fitzgerald
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    May 16th 2013, 1:34 PM

    Well there you have it, that’s all the shit that flows out of this dictatorship of a government not only do you have to listen to them now it comes out of your sinks excepting you to drink it.

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    Mute joe dangermouse
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    May 16th 2013, 2:04 PM

    First world country my arse.Thats actually disgusting.

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    Mute Brian Daly
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    May 16th 2013, 1:29 PM

    First fluoride and now there’s iron in the water …

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    Mute John Teevan
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    May 16th 2013, 1:34 PM

    dont knock the vitamins

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    Mute James Kilgannon
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    May 16th 2013, 2:13 PM

    They cant even have a cup of tea, things have gotten serious. The government must act now to restore tea to the people. Probably a tea tax.

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    Mute Maria Fitzpatrick
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    May 16th 2013, 1:24 PM

    Wow bet they want to charge a extra tax for the water that makes your tea extra strong.Lovely colour .Who says water doesn’t have a taste.

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    May 16th 2013, 2:16 PM

    The thing that really worries me about this is Ireland have very high rate of formula feeding. People are using contaminated water to feed newborn babies!!

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    May 16th 2013, 1:36 PM

    I hope they get higher water charges than the rest of us next year. Lucky feckers. We don’t have a municipal Smithwicks supply here in Dublin.

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    Mute Siobhan O'Brien Kelly
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    May 16th 2013, 5:46 PM

    Well just to give people an insight… That is my picture my taps and my so called water. After 6 years of this and past to every flipping ass that we call TDs and government pearse Doherty is the only person that has brought this to light and is trying to help me and many other people in this area. For the ones who want the water tax ask yourself would you pay it on your house for that kind of water because I won’t until I have the human right of clean drinking water and I know that I and my children can bath and not come out tangoed. I am out a complete fortune because of this WELL NO MORE. I have nothing else to give.

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    Mute Petr Tarasov
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    May 16th 2013, 1:59 PM

    If the tap wasn’t in the photos it’d look like a nasty dose of the runs.

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    Mute Noel Farrell
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    May 16th 2013, 2:14 PM

    Rest of us get Fluoridated water, they get Tango.

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    Mute John Teevan
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    May 16th 2013, 1:33 PM

    dont always believe what you read or see lyons tea on tap !lucky gits bet they won the car x

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    Mute Conor McLaughlin
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    May 16th 2013, 2:45 PM

    As I said earlier this week on another article, “the water up here tastes like copper, shite and rust” and now the proof is in the tap!!

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    Mute John Masterson
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    May 16th 2013, 2:30 PM

    It looks like the tea’s already made! Nasty

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    Mute S L
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    May 16th 2013, 3:36 PM

    They are slowing killing the population with fluoride anyways, sickest country in Europe.. Great article in hotpress few months ago, a report by Declan Waugh, truly scary stuff, get your finger out and run a story on it Journal.. This has to be stopped!

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    Mute Ronán Donnelly
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    May 16th 2013, 2:29 PM

    Sinn Féin is against the water tax. Where does Pearse Doherty expect the money to come from to fix these kind of problems and update the existing water network around Ireland?

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    Mute Lord Loverocket
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    May 16th 2013, 4:12 PM

    Most of the water pipes in this country were laid in the 19th century. Surely over 100 years, they’d have the money to replace them?

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    Mute Peter McGlynn
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    May 16th 2013, 4:20 PM

    The Donegal SW TD had to fight the government for a basic human right – the right to vote – for his constituents . Now he has to fight for another basic human right – the right to safe drinking water – again in Donegal. Well done Pearse Doherty for highlighting this.

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    Mute M Bowe
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    May 16th 2013, 6:57 PM

    Ronan read my previous post. And quit paying out our money to gambling bond holders.

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    Mute Leon Taylor
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    May 16th 2013, 2:51 PM

    It’s not water its oxtail soup.

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    Mute Ruth Corbally
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    May 16th 2013, 2:58 PM

    That’s just nasty

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    Mute John Campbell
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    May 16th 2013, 3:06 PM

    Appreciate the humour guys but would you touch the water from this source anytime in the forseeable future? Hope the Journal removes the photo soon, it makes me sick just looking at it!

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    Mute Cathal O'Loughlin
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    May 16th 2013, 2:06 PM

    Hey you guysssss!

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    Mute Al
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    May 16th 2013, 2:29 PM

    It’s just the tea tape…!

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    Mute Gerard Mooney
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    May 16th 2013, 3:46 PM

    Mmm Bisto!!!

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    Mute PJ Walsh
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    May 16th 2013, 3:33 PM

    “We don’t want to hand over a disaster to Irish Water,” says Fianna Fail councillor. Too late; Dublin City Council has already done that!

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    Mute Tony Le Blanc
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    May 16th 2013, 3:58 PM

    This and this: http://jrnl.ie/911136

    Worth every penny of the tax then.

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