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Column ‘Getting a job is the worst thing that’s ever happened to us’
A mother describes how finding work has left her family worse off than in unemployment, thanks to what she believes is a broken system.
6.30pm, 10 Jun 2012
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A woman working in Dublin tells of her experience being caught in a system where she says you are rewarded with benefits when unemployed only to have them stripped from you immediately and placed on the bread line when you enter back into the work place.
I’m at a loss for words to describe what has happened to my family. My partner and I have a gorgeous new baby and he has children from a previous relationship with whom we spend a fair amount of time.
He has been out of work for a while now and paying €100 euro per week out of his social welfare in maintenance – this was court ordered whilst he was on jobseeker’s benefit. I was out of work since the baby, but with the help of family and rent allowance we just about got by.
‘I got a full time job last month, delighted! Finally some light at the end of the tunnel, right?’
We were both living off my state maternity benefit and neither of us could get work, so we decided to move closer to where the jobs are. This meant the rent we were paying out doubled. Finally and thankfully I got a full time job last month, delighted! Finally some light at the end of the tunnel right? Wrong.
Even though my new job was far away, I didn’t mind, it was work. At this stage I thought it was our chance to get back on the food chain.
We did the right thing and told the social welfare I had secured a job. I was claiming jobseeker’s benefit when I was out of work. Within a week of me getting a job, my partner got a letter to say that we were being assessed – and in the meantime of the assessment his jobseeker’s benefit was being stopped.
‘We were told something different from everybody’
There was no pre-warning – that was in the first week in April and I was not due to be paid until the last week in April. I was now in the situation where we had no income whatsoever, so I had to go to the welfare officer to see if they could tide me over until I get paid. We were told something different from everybody. When we dropped in all the information they had asked for – like my contract saying what I was earning as I hadn’t received a payslip yet – we were told that was fine.
We asked did they take into account the maintenance that we were paying, the travel expenses I had to get to work – she said all that was taken into account. The community welfare officer then told us that they take it on the gross earnings and that there was absolutely nothing they could do for us as I was working.
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I just can’t believe it. They will only take into account my gross income, they ignore that a large portion of my salary goes on tax, PRSI and USC. And they ignore the fact that I’ve to travel 100 kilometres each way to get to work so with diesel and tolls it costs me around €140 a week just to get there and back. And they ignore the fact that my partner has court ordered maintenance to pay out of that dole payment.
‘The social welfare said “Do you have any idea of just how busy it is in here?”’
When I called in relation to the matter the person at the social welfare office said “Do you have any idea of just how busy it is in here?” When I said I understood she told me that I was just lip-syncing and that I didn’t understand. She was just so rude – she had no compassion for my situation, no empathy. I complained and asked for a supervisor to call me – none did.
When we were cut off we went into arrears on the child maintenance payment and the thing with family law is that you cannot stop paying that unless a court order says so – you are liable for the arrears. So until we get a date we are now in arrears for hundreds until our case is heard. We don’t know when that date will be but the figure is clocking up every week.
‘The community welfare officer told us in no uncertain terms that we are entitled to nothing’
We have already been told that if he does not uphold the payments until the case is heard that he can be locked up for breaching the court order. This is likely to happen but it will solely come down to the judge on the day. How is that just? As it stands we can’t afford car tax, there is no home heating oil in the house (with a newborn baby and other children there also) and the community welfare officer told us in no uncertain terms that we are entitled to nothing because I’m working and earning over €312, they won’t even look at it.
So that is what we have to live on – two adults, a newborn baby and the other children.
I feel I am being encouraged not to work and what really upset me is my partner has worked since he was 16, he has paid tax in his own right, he has paid PRSI, he has supported his family up until he could no longer do so, he has earned the right to earn jobseeker’s while he is out of work.
He was self-employed for most of the past decade and before that he was employed elsewhere. The sickening thing is that the Department of Social Welfare and Family have made him 100 per cent dependent on me. I now have two dependents, him and my baby. I called the Revenue to try and claim my partner’s tax credits and I was told “sorry you’re only cohabiting, you’re not married so you’re not entitled to anything”.
‘The people who are up front and honest are the ones being punished for not being married’
I know the argument that they are trying to protect the institution of marriage – but I belong to a family unit too and it is almost like we are being encouraged to break up. Even the pressure of the financial end of it is what can create family units breaking up, that is the fact of it. There are so many people out there that are living together and claiming single parents’ allowance and their rent allowance while the people who are up front and honest are the ones that are being discriminated against and punished for not being married.
The social welfare system appeals are taking over six months, so what are we going to do? Getting a job is the worst thing that’s ever happened to us. If I gave up work tomorrow I would get it all – rent allowance and social welfare. It just doesn’t make sense.
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Good article! I think Facebook etc have a lot to answer for in making us feel we have to project to the world a shiny happy image, built on our relationships/holidays/interesting pursuits, as if any of those things amount to real self-contentment. Not to mention how bad it makes people feel who don’t have or do those things.
Yeah but I am a long way from home and i am in contact with relatives who i would not be otherwise (truth be told i would have no more contact with them really if i lived in the same country but there you go)
facebook has many positive aspects is the point i want to make
I really needed to read this… My god, my life seems in bits at the moment.. sometimes for no reason I just start crying… And feel so down and alone and frightened… And yet there is no reason for this.. It’s overwhelming… and so damn confusing..
Thanks for the article…. I’m going to read it again.
@ Debi.. that’s all of us at some stages in our lives.. Don’t despair.. I think most people, whether they admit it or not, suffer on and off like you’ve described… I know I have and I always say to myself … ‘tommorrow will be a better day’….worry/stress/depression is something I really wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy but I think the majority of the population suffer these emotions so you aren’t alone believe me! Great article Journal ..
The world keeps on turning, it may be on the dark side now, but it has to turn back around to face the sun at some point.
Change always comes, sometimes we just have to sit tight through the darkness until dawn.
Make sure to get outside when it’s light, see some good friends, have a laugh (and a cry), eat some fresh foods and get some rest.
Things have to get better sooner or later :)
Thanks Joan, The article gave me some insight. Really appreciate the kind words. As the article mentions, we’ve forgotten how to make real friends and as a community we’ve lost touch with those around us… But surprisingly there are still so many good and kind people out there… Strangers but yet still willing to say something friendly and kind.
Hey Debi, wow… it’s great you’re so honest. I’m starting to work as a mental skills coach and I’ve been interviewing people and their patterns of thinking etc to get experience. I’d love to interview you on skype if possible? I’ll be using the experience to work with people who have similar challenges so I’d appreciate any help possible : ) Any questions, let me know. Thanks!
Excellent article.
I’m aware it was not said with complete seriousness, but not sure America is really to blame here, we’ve been very quick to raise a whole generation of our own with overly high expectations and inflated self esteem. We’ve also been quick to believe that taking a load of pills is the best way to ‘cure sadness’.
The American way of eternal optimism has probably landed the world in the financial mess we’re in. Contentment has a lot to be said for it. People always striving for more tend to never be happy.
I can’t agree with you. We were brainwashed to borrow money and consume, banks lended money but for their own gain, Then you have utter pr1cks like inda blaming his fellow countrymen abroad in return for a fat salary and pension.
The same was going on elsewhere around the world. We got stung here more as a small country. Watch wall Street 2 – Oliver Stone does a good job of explaining the reason behind the mess
The creation of the corporate veil is the real culprit.
In fairness, whilst I realise that we are paying a huge price for catastrophic eejitism of the highest proportions, I really dont think that you can trace this human development back to Enda Kenny …
The American way of eternal optimism was not in evidence in the 50 years I spent there. What I saw was the message that “You’re not quite right unless you get one of *these*! Then you have a chance to be happy. It can be a car, a house, a feminine deodorant spray, glue for false teeth, or Coca-Cola. Doesn’t matter. The message is “You’re incomplete without our product.”
Didn’t see too many happy faces at the Kennedy’s funerals. At 9/11. At Hurricane Katrina. Those were certainly “This too shall pass” moments.
Today, Americans are more worried about their future than at any other time I can remember. Enormous debt. Falling currency. Surveillance state/security state. They”re paranoid, inward-turning, and not exactly optimistic. Like the Irish, they’ve lost faith in their institutions–the banks, the government and the church. In God We Fuss should be the new motto.
Yes i believe sadness is a part of life just as happiness is but should we really be blaming Americans and their “shiny white teeth” for thinking otherwise?
Great article. It’s a bit of an aha moment isn’t it. What are we doing going around thinking we should be happy every moment of our lives. The pressure to be positive isn’t very positive. Thanks much respect.
all you need is love.
sounds like hippy shite, but if you know some people love you, you can cope with just about anything.
Its what i strive to create for my kids anyway
It’s definitely a cultural problem and possibly one informed by religion. Catholicism is based on finding eternal happiness, seeking an eased conscience by confessing sins, the Protestant ethic holds that God rewards the righteous with material goods.
Culturally, we place importance on challenging authority, valuing freedom of speech over traditional norms.
Eastern cultures have a more passive outlook and are more accepting of the idea that we are a small part of something much bigger, they place more importance on societal happiness than that of the individual.
Yes, I know you have outliers such as China (who are racing towards western style caplitalism) North Korea (just facepalm really) etc. But generally, if you’re brought up to accept that life ebbs and flows, you’ll ironically end up much happier by using the tough times as a means of embracing the happier ones.
Agee completely, good article. Teaching people distress tolerance skills is important as too many people spend their existences trying to avoid unpleasant feelings which only prolongs their distress.
Maybe he did Dara, I presume you will find out all about that in time when your little world of opportunistic sniping online becomes obvious to you that it’s just a finger or a highlight of your clearly mental issue
Also facile anti-American rhetoric is very unattractive. Of course there are things wrong with the US – but in my experience with American colleagues, they have an honesty and enterprising nature that is lacking in this country. If anything I think we Irish could learn from our friends across the Atlantic: to be more honest, more authentic and less emotionally evasive.
I find this article a bit tired and minimising, to be honest. Some of us are not just “sad”, we have temperaments which make the vicissitudes of Irish life, itself shot through with injustice and moving goalposts, very hard to bear. I’m not a drummer boy for big pharma, but if we are suffering from mental ill-health and medication helps to stabilise us, then to have recourse to it should not be a matter of penalty. To accuse us of evading the natural rhythms of life is trite, Jesuitical and cruel. And I really don’t see what the internet has to do with it. Of course it can alienate, but it can also bond people together and create wonderful relationships.
The emotion I am happy to embrace and accept is the one of anger, and this article gives me some. He is calling mentally ill people cowards, and that falsehood makes me growl in the back of my throat.
“Despite their continued failure to understand how psychiatric drugs work, doctors continue to tell patients that their troubles are the result of chemical imbalances in their brains. As Frank Ayd pointed out, this explanation helps reassure patients even as it encourages them to take their medicine, and it fits in perfectly with our expectation that doctors will seek out and destroy the chemical villains responsible for all of our suffering, both physical and mental. The theory may not work as science, but it is a devastatingly effective myth” ~ http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/09/psychiatry-prozac-ssri-mental-health-theory-discredited.html
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