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Analysis Cameron's return exposes a government that is more clown show than shrewd operators

Former UK/EU negotiator Sydney Nash says Cameron’s appointment is not a stroke of genius, but rather Sunak’s last-ditch effort to appear competent.

LAST UPDATE | 17 Nov 2023

THAT SOUND THAT you can hear from across the Irish Sea, that’s the sound of millions of Brits collectively groaning as news of yet another government reshuffle broke.

We have seen it all before. The infighting. The egos. The procession towards Number 10 Downing Street of men in suits whose one talent is to fail upwards, meaning that they are naturally next in line to be bestowed with the keys to one of the “great offices of state”. And, of course, David Cameron.

The former Prime Minister has been ennobled, with King Charles generously bestowing upon him the dignity of the barony of the whole United Kingdom. Why take just a bit when you can have it all?

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This cheeky piece of aristocratic slight of hand has allowed Rishi Sunak, the current Prime Minister and fourth since Cameron resigned a mere seven years ago, to appoint Cameron as foreign secretary without requiring him to go through anything quite as boring as getting elected. Such is the wonder of British democracy. 

Back to the future

Sunak’s decision to bring Cameron back is perfectly in keeping with a government that has long seemed to think that the best way to run the UK is as some ill-conceived tribute to Victoriana.

The glory of empire, trade with the dominions, putting those continentals back in their box, these are the things this Brexit government aspire to. So why not do like the Victorians did, and pick a cabinet of lordly Lords?

There are some British commentators who would like us to believe that Cameron’s appointment is a shrewd political move. They say that having a political heavyweight in the Foreign Office will free Sunak up to focus on domestic issues. Putting aside that this seems to be an admission that Sunak cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, it is rumoured that Cameron was not even his first choice. Sunak apparently wanted another former Conservative leader (and former foreign secretary) to take on the role. William Hague though, had the good sense to turn the offer down.

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Cameron’s appointment is simply further evidence that Sunak is way out of his depth. At the Conservative Party conference, he used his speech to try to position himself as the change candidate as we head towards a general election.

This was a stretch, to say the least. Now, having appointed to Cabinet one of the key architects of the failed political consensus that, only last month, Sunak committed to smashing up, that speech looks like a joke.

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Like the manager of a failing football team that is staring relegation in the face, Sunak has no strategy, is tactically inept and is overseeing a group of players who embarrass themselves each time they walk on the pitch. This clown show would be entertaining if we did not have to pay a pretty penny to live in it. All that is left for the British public is to stand on the terraces, wet, cold and groaning.

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Don’t underestimate Suella

One character in all of this who should not be considered a clown is Suella Braverman. Her behaviour has demonstrated that she is a far more dangerous and frightening prospect than the inept Sunak. If she is a clown, she is the type that Stephen King might imagine.

Braverman is British politics’ foremost Trumpian. She is an illiberal, authoritarian, populist who, steeped in the culture wars, tries to divide British society for her own political gain. Like Trump, she appears to be willing to send coded messages to the far right. Like Trump, when pushed, she may prove not to be a democrat.

file-photo-dated-121123-of-home-secretary-suella-braverman-during-the-remembrance-sunday-service-at-the-cenotaph-in-whitehall-london Suella Braverman. Alamy Stock Photo Alamy Stock Photo

Should Braverman succeed Sunak as leader of the Conservative Party, British politics could move into a very dark place. Despite what Braverman thinks, there is not a silent majority in the UK that supports what she is saying, but that will not stop her from stoking more division, anger and bitterness.

What is more, you do not need majority support to win power in the UK. Just like in the US where a majority voted for Clinton, but got Trump as President, here the majority could vote against the Conservatives, only for Braverman to waltz into Number 10 thanks to the backing of an angry minority.

Were this to happen, the sound you would hear from across the Irish Sea would no longer be a collective groan, but a stunned and terrified silence.

Sydney Nash is a former civil servant and UK/EU negotiator, and a former advisor to the automotive sector on Brexit and international trade. He writes in a personal capacity.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:39 AM

    In fairness, it needs a restructure. Its a pity it doesn’t ask or survey its licence payers what it needs to do however.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:01 AM

    @iohanx: We are here to serve them not the other way around, its ingrained in all these state run companies/departments, we are here to pay their massively over the top pay and pensions bill…..just keep loading the tax on!

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:38 AM

    @iohanx: There’s a proper poll for you Journal…Should RTE get rid of RTE Gold ???

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:53 AM

    @The digenous: yes

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:41 AM

    If Will Leahy was still on 2fm they would have more listeners. Was very good at the show he did.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 12:40 PM

    @The digenous: yes …it’s listeners are dying off .Also streaming has made it largely irrelevant except for the bewildered .

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    Nov 7th 2019, 12:49 PM

    @The digenous: I don’t understand how they can’t measure listenership of it and the other DAB stations. Similar stations in the UK have had listenership figures monitored for years.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:08 PM

    @Kevin Lydon: “Get off my Train”Lydo.!!

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:51 AM

    They could save a lot of money by withdrawing from the Eurovision for a few years.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:19 AM

    @JAC: this year they spent €331,000 on it. It costs €84,000 to even enter before anything else

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:38 AM

    @JAC: Christ I hope we don’t win it anytime shortly or they will have to cut RTE Radio 1, 2FM, The All Ireland’s and Fair City (last one I can live with

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:40 AM

    @JAC: get rid of finucane to pay for it

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:43 AM

    Get rid of the overpaid presenters, whose abilities in no way reflects their wages.
    Seeing Mike Murphy on the tribute show, said it all class

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:47 AM

    @William Bryan: exactly, too many very expensive dinosaurs. Got to be lots of young actual talent that would do a far better job for a fraction of the salary.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:58 AM

    The news broadcasters at RTE are no longer relevant or useful to the Irish people. They have been supporting the views of an increasingly out of touch liberal elite of Dublin 4, and actively censoring the opinions of those that don’t share their ideologies.

    Don’t bang the door after you!

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:07 AM

    @Peter Hughes: bit early in the morning to be so triggered there snowflake.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:19 AM

    @Mary’s Abbey: I think you are a bit out of touch there. For example in the last Referendum the Citizens group, the Dail commitee and finally the electorate all went further than anything your ‘liberal elite’ were suggesting. There has always been a conservative rump complaining about progress right back to giving women the vote, sounds like it’s alive and well and still moaning.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:59 AM

    @Peter Hughes: agree. They sound like someone who starts conversations with “we the people” lol

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:12 AM

    @Squiddley Diddley: The last two referendums were on subjects being advocated for by taxpayer-funded far left-liberal elite activists.

    Lets now have one asking do you want to control immigration are continue with uncontrolled mass immigration.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:30 AM

    @Pickles: Ok Boomer.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:39 AM

    @Mary’s Abbey: “far-left liberal” is an oxymoron. Liberal is a right-wing ideology everywhere except the US.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:42 AM

    @Mary’s Abbey: where’s the “uncontrolled mass immigration” happening? Immigration into Ireland is tightly controlled. You’d swear we were overrun with immigrants here judging by some commenters when we clearly aren’t. Alex Jones eat your heart out

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:33 AM

    @Mick Murphy: I’ve forgotten the air to the old tune “Oh the fairy tales of Ireland they are told by young and old.”

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:36 AM

    @Mary’s Abbey: Wow, abortion and being gay are “far-left elite activities”!! Who knew!?!

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:44 AM

    @Niamh Kenneally: A man once said to me he was going to emigrate.

    I asked him why, he said “100 years ago people were stoned to death for being gay, forty years ago you could be sent to prison for being gay. Now the is no punishment at all for being gay. So I said sure that’s a good thing would that make you want to emigrate.

    “He said. I want to go before it becomes compulsary.”

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    Nov 7th 2019, 12:58 PM

    @Chris Judge: “Liberal is a right-wing ideology everywhere except the US.”

    A classical Liberal believes in the maxim ‘Live and Let Live’. It has always been considered a left wing position.
    However, progressive Liberals have pushed their ideology so far to the left and into authoritarianism that it’s understandable where the confusion comes from.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 2:16 PM

    @Mary’s Abbey: Totally agree. Even the newsreaders have to get their own leftie view in and are so unprofessional. One can’t trust or believe the news and any balance or fairness is gone. There is also an obvious anti-Christian/Catholic bias, which whether RTE likes it or not, offends a large number of the population, which includes advertisers. They do not have their finger on the pulse of Ireland and are not listening to those they are supposed to be serving. Such a pity because with the right balance, leadership, common sense and respect for all the people, it could be a great asset to people’s lives and to this country.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:43 AM

    That’s a pity,personally I think gold is the only good thing about RTÉ but that’s just my taste

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:13 AM

    @Pete mc pete: Yeah they could let the commercial stations serve the 2FM market and put RTE Gold on the air instead of it. Don’t see any downside there.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 12:32 PM

    @Pete mc pete: best station ever Pete.they play music people want to hear…I listen to it every day.an incredible decision to shut it down.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 6:51 PM

    @The digenous: maybe I’m old but timewarp is a decent station too if you have internet radio

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:31 PM

    @Pete mc pete: Thanks mate.I’ll check it out. It’s not that you’re old my friend.Gold justs plays a great variety of classics.Im really sad to see it go;-(

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:58 AM

    It’s a business first and eventually they are behaving like one. The only area that I think should get ring fenced money in rte is investigative journalism as we can all remember lots of issues raised by primetime and others which have done a service to the country

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:51 AM

    Will really really miss RTÉ Gold. Will and others are absolutely excellent

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:13 PM

    @Brian Hunt: The music the lads,Will,Al,Larry and Rick played was just brilliant. Vital part of my mornings work was RTE Gold.Hopefully it can be saved.Seriously RTE!! Listen to the general public.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:00 AM

    1. Make rte an encrypted chan. Subscription reqd.
    2. Why are tubs ..etc contracted employees and not paye?
    Nice dodge if u can get away with it.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:15 AM

    @Pete Lee: because then a huge number of people wouldn’t subscribe, viewership would go down and stories of vital national interest wouldn’t necessarily get air time.

    A state funded broadcaster is vital for democracy.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:19 AM

    @Shazam37: ok…how about rte 1 tv radio free to air the rest subscription and if they dont get the numbers shut them down. I agree to PBS brief of rte but there are a lot of non essential bolt ons

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:19 AM

    @Shazam37: vital for government propaganda more like it…..

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:50 AM

    @Gus Sheridan: that may or may not be. I couldn’t say. But even if true the fact they don’t do the job well or properly is not a valid argument against the job being done in the first place.

    Change? Sure. Reform? Absolutely. Scrapping the National Broadcaster? Absolutely not

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:00 AM

    @Pete Lee: All employees are contracted. The likes of Tubridy, Marian Finucane et al are self employed.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:03 AM

    @Alan Dillon: As a paye I don’t understand how Revenue allow this.. I can’t go contract…They do not work for anyone else..

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    Nov 7th 2019, 12:20 PM

    @Pete Lee: if RTE offered a reasonable, ad-free subscription I would certainly subscribe, but they have the licence and the advertising. I rarely watch it because the player is a pain but when I do online I enjoy some of the dramas produced by RTE,hence I would be happy to subscribe. Their news programmes are very slanted in favour of the status quo. I really miss Vincent Brown!

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    Nov 7th 2019, 12:49 PM

    @Peter lee: yes you can you just need to prove to your employer it’s worth their while. it also means that they can cancel you’re contract within the contract terms at any time. now when it comes to rte stars there not salaries because it means rte can let them go (which never seems to happen) and it’s a legitimate tax dodge. plenty of it contractors doing the same thing.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 1:04 PM

    @Shazam37: “A state funded broadcaster is vital for democracy.”

    I would agree with you if RTE was impartial but it isn’t, it is far too often a mouth piece for the establishment.
    There is still a place for RTE in Irish society but the fact that they are dependent on taxpayers money means they can be controlled to some extent by government.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:01 AM

    Gold is the best station RTE have. Why get rid of something that is good when you could cut in other areas .

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:14 AM

    @Orla Cosgrave: because they don’t know if anyone is listening. It’s in the article in black and white. Leahy says it himself – the tech has never really caught on.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:35 AM

    @Shazam37: you’re posting intelligently on the Journal. That’s against the rules.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:01 AM

    @Orla Cosgrave: I got a dab function on my roberts radio , there is nothing on it.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:29 AM

    @Orla Cosgrave: Their sporting and childrens productions were great as well but were the first to be cut.
    They appear to run their business on the basis of protecting golden members first and foremost regardless of performance rather than what the viewers / listeners care about.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:17 AM

    @Shazam37: RTE Gold and all their digital channels are available on every TV in the country, not just DAB.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:23 AM

    @Shazam37: RTE Gold, like all their radio channels, is available on every digital TV in the country. DAB was never rolled out fully so car DAB radios never made much sense.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:29 AM

    Continue non payment of the license fee folks. Victory is on the horizon. Bye bye Rte

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:33 AM

    Sack there accounts .. they earn enough in advertising revenue.. its the over paid presenter’s that need a 50% cut

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:49 AM

    Is there a state run, public company in this country actually run correctly or succesfully?

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:42 AM

    @Brian Dunne: Where do you think this is, Germany?!

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:10 AM

    I honestly thought the DAB stations were just music on constant repeat and in all honesty why aren’t they just that , most money being spent on presenters and producers that are not really needed just put music on a loop and have a schedule to say this block of 2 hours will be x and this block of 2 hours will be y
    Joke of a company

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:02 AM

    @colm connolly: me too

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:29 AM

    I live in Spain and RTE GOLD is the only radio station I listen to it’s brilliant

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:47 AM

    There are some very good people in rte unfortunately the organisation has become defined by the overpaid wafflers at the top

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:22 AM

    Stop buying wardrobes of clothing for the presenters. They can well afford to buy their own clothes like the rest of us. That would easy pay for RTÉ Gold which is brill.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:26 AM

    Get rid of the overpaid presenters and leave rte gold alone

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:07 AM

    It seems that every week I see a new face on the RTE News… and here’s our whatever correspondent… I would love to know how many people work on the RTE News alone, never mind the rest of the Station and Administration.
    As I understand it RTE gets the licence fee and all the advertising revenue … commercial stations get advertising .. end of story. Look at the BBC .. only licence fee.. and their incredible output .. admittedly a bigger country and a big population , but on a scale of output proportionally we couldn’t match the quality of theirs. Most of the drama etc. from RTE has a certain cheapness about it that I personally accepted … until it dawned on me that they are spending far too much on Salaries… also much of the output is produced FOR RTE. Who profits there ?

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:54 AM

    Licience evaders causing problem my eye more like the huge wages bill for likes of tubbs, darcy, duffy,etc . Its easy to point finger @ 12% of licience evaders when clearly rte never restructured properly & 10 years of mismanagement from fine gael is another factor. The amount of money they could save on excessive wage bills would help .

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:18 AM

    Wonder how much it cost them to broadcast live the dublin county football semifinal and final?

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:03 AM

    @Michael: so? That’s public service TV , exactly what they need to do more of instead of english soccer

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:30 AM

    @Michael: here’s me thinking it was in tg4

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:28 AM

    @Tony Stack: What English soccer Tony?

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:23 AM

    Keep RTE News and and use it for documentaries etc , get rid of everything else including the overpaid presenters who have become a major turn off and financial headache for the station.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:45 AM

    Fair city
    Eurovision
    Tubs ,Darcy Joe, Marion.. self employed private contactors avoiding tax, crazy silly money,
    Plenty of new talent would love chance to prove themselves, for fraction of above.
    Don’t have rte etc, but can view on player if need.

    Horrible news for workforce at anytime, but this close to Christmas and way they heard

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:05 AM

    @Kerrie Roche: “self employed private contactors avoiding tax”. Can you send on the link to that fact please. I’d love to read it.

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    Nov 8th 2019, 1:26 AM

    @Fr. Fintan Stack: just goggle it , can’t seem to send link, they all have set up as companies, so only have to pay corporate tax.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:35 AM

    Nooooooo!!!! I love RTÉ Gold it’s a nice distraction from the head wreck that is Brexit! What a shame!

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:19 AM

    @Buster Cat: or worse,,,,,Jennifer Zamparelli

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    Mute In my opinion
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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:35 AM

    RTÉ should scrap TG4 merge the services from TG4 to RTÉ 2 have the TG4 frequency as a sports channel

    Close lyric fm RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta and Long wave radio

    Cut presenters wages further ( if they don’t like it let them enjoy the digital desert )

    Agreed cease aertel and sell off RTÉ guide and move RTÉ orchestra to concert hall

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:54 AM

    @In my opinion: you do know tg4 is nothing to do with rte since 2007

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:12 AM

    @colm connolly: and produces great content

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:21 AM

    It’s disgraceful that Will Leahy had to broadcast a show on RTE Gold this morning only armed with the info he read in the press. He broadcast this morning as the ultimate professional, despite the distinct lack of respect shown by his employer.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:38 AM

    Scrap lyric and bring Gold fm and Pulse fm to fm radio…

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:49 AM

    @Johnny Conway: No way. I like Lyric FM. And isnt Gold just constant music no DJs? surely that cant cost much?

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:18 AM

    If RTÉ didn’t receive funding from the from the TV licence fee, would it be viable at all? How does their competitor survive? BAI part funding for “as Gaeilge” programs for them won’t cut it.
    I can only imagine they (RTÉ) themselves have gone down the path of cost over runs, and becoming non financially viable. Expecting shows from independent producers to prop them up via selling licences to channels outside of Ireland is not going to solve finances and goes against serving the Irish public in a sence. Then there’s revenue from advertising, they repeatedly fail to mention this in their woes! Expecting the public to pay more under a newly named tax because of their bad management is simply not good enough. They actually have a lot to answer for too the public who pay them.

    Truth is they are not with the times, younger audiences don’t watch or listen to RTÉ. The programming is mostly aimed at a mature audience, apart from under 5s, I haven’t spoken to many under 5s to see if they watch RTÉ Jr. mine didn’t when they were small, they watched Nick Jr, Catroon Network, foreign channels. Teenagers, including my own, yes I have asked, they don’t watch it. They use social media for everything. RTÉ is simply not in tune with modern times. Fair City, Nationwide, Reeling in the Years, the Late Late Show(Guests selling their latest books, albums or movies, sponsored by Renault, selling cars), moan at Joe, Ray D’Arcy, Ryan Tubridy, Drive tíme, are all aimed at mature audiences, are all the same thing over and over for decades and in some cases and are literally dinosaurs in a world of IoT. There’s not much new going on and it’s the same presenters am the time. Opportunity for new ones and new independent producers are slim to none. I am one.
    And as we have seen with companies who don’t change with the times, they die.

    I pay my TV licence only because I’m threatened by legal action, fines etc.. I occasionally watch RTÉ 6One news, but with free to air channels that have CNN, BBC, France24, and 900+ other free channels and then streaming like Netflix, it is very occasionally, that I watch RTÉ.
    If RTÉ was gone in the morning personally, I wouldn’t miss it, at all.
    I wish them the best of luck but it shouldn’t be at my expense, your expense, they don’t financially support my business, your business. And that’s the fact right there, it’s a business, not a public service anymore. If they can’t survive on their own, we’ll what does that tell ya?

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:08 AM

    Salaries crazy with the top earners.
    Gold a much loved station by those that are aware of it.
    Make it accessible to all.
    How many are aware or listen via dab

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:27 AM

    Dont pay the licence fee and never will as long as Darcy is getting paid more per year than id earn in 10. Shut it down.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:48 AM

    Well hopefully they dont get rid of Lyric FM i actually like that station

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:48 AM

    Why cut gold and keep lyric fm, who the hell listens to that Shyte anyway.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:56 AM

    @Chris Folliard: RTE Gold is the best music station in Ireland…apart from the permenant staff there and the digital technology on DAB, it costs little to run. I’ll miss listening to it on Saorview on the TV…been listening since the start in May 2007. Great weekend presenters. Unfortunately, the music played on GOLD will never be heard on RTE again. RTE should merge Lyric FM and RTE Gold.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 7:57 AM

    @Chris Folliard: I do. Classical music is associated with a higher intelligence. I’ll understand if you don’t tune in.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:08 AM

    @cybersecsteve: that is very much debatable. It’s like saying my preference in colour also associates to my level of intelligence.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:13 AM

    @cybersecsteve: apparently so is arrogance.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:45 AM

    @Graham Masters: no it doesn’t. Choice of colour is personal preference.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:45 AM

    @Dave O’Keeffe: I agree Dave. Calling something “shyte” is the height of ignorance.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:41 AM

    @Chris Folliard:
    I listen to lyric

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:13 AM

    @Chris Folliard: culture my good man. Only joking..Seriously lyric F.M. is a fantastic station, R.T.E. gold certainly got me through the night shift for the last few years. Spotify and other music streaming blew RTE gold out of the water. At an age where outside the news and John Creedon R.T.E. does not appeal to me anymore. As for current affairs, with the rear exception just a mouthpiece for government policy.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:54 AM

    How much did ‘Marty’s big adventure’ cost?

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:49 AM

    I only watch 6 one. It’s literally 4 news stories repeated over and over again usually followed by the mouldy Reeling in the years that seems like a bad Youtube video.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:02 AM

    2FM should be sold

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    Nov 7th 2019, 10:40 AM

    Well people if you want RTÉ gold to be saved email RTÉ and complain we are the share holders of this company. They should start by cutting the dead wood from the top not be shutting the stations people listen to. How many executives on big salary’s don’t need to be there. It’s the same in all semi state company’s they cut the services rather than the real money suckers. Bring in an outside accounting company and let them sort the mess.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:57 AM

    @Colm Sheehan: The state should stop funding it and then you will see a massive cull and shake up all those overpaid wasters would jump ship immediately, look at Marian Finuacane she is on over 300k a year for 4 hours work a week she must be one of the highest paid people in Europe based on the hours that she actually works,she has a team of researchers and producers who do all the donkey work for her.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 9:59 AM

    Sack Turburdy as he is a Gimp

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    Nov 7th 2019, 11:39 AM

    doesnt even come up when I scan radio stations in the car. so who is will leahy

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    Nov 7th 2019, 2:30 PM

    @ed w: Do you have DAB in your car? If you do then RTE Gold should show up. Will Leahy was previously with 2FM for many years so is an experienced DJ. He’s also a solicitor.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 5:49 PM

    @Fon_Ellard: I’m so happy for you, and censorship and a good pension

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    Nov 8th 2019, 12:24 AM

    It really does need a huge makeover,
    Look at RTE Radio 1 it’s the longest station it should be the nations leading station bouncing out the music,
    Every time I turn to listen to this station it’s a load of talk about politics,
    It’s diabolical,
    As for blaming the job losses on In this statement last night, RTÉ said that licence fee evasion rates in Ireland are among the highest in Europe and is “costing jobs”.

    The station says that between people who evade their TV licence fee and those who just watch RTÉ programming on the RTÉ player, “over €50 million is lost to public broadcasting every year”.
    Well perhaps if they ran things more economically before they would not be in the present situation.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 3:04 PM

    For once I think we should question ourselves as a nation that seems to condone TV license evaders at € 160.00 per YEAR and not moving up yet ooh and aah when people show off there Virgin Media and Sky channels at 90quid and upwards per month. We have something askew here.

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    Nov 7th 2019, 8:59 AM

    no loss

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