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Paul Murphy Clearly, the Irish left needs to unite once and for all ahead of future elections
A week on from General Election 2024, the People Before Profit TD looks at the fragmented left and asks what it can do to change politics in the future.
“WE NEED TO end 100 years of Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael rule” is how we started conversations on the doorsteps during the election. Most people we spoke to agreed. But despite agreeing, many responded, “But it’s not going to happen.”
This was the fundamental problem facing the opposition. The basic outcome — a Fianna Fáil / Fine Gael coalition propped up by someone — seemed a foregone conclusion, and the left did not present a clear alternative.
Sinn Féin’s election slogan was “Vote to Change the Government” but instead of forming a ‘left front’ with others and committing to a Left Government they went it alone and kept the option of coalition with Fianna Fáil open even though this was unpopular with their own voters. This lack of ambition added to a feeling that change was not really possible. The left must learn from this — we cannot afford to make the same mistake again.
The impact of this lack of a clear alternative is seen in lowest ever turnout of just 59.7%, But it wasn’t just that turnout was down — if it was down evenly across the board it would have no impact on the election. It was down far more in working class communities than in relatively affluent areas. And it also seems to have fallen among young people — many of whom will have emigrated since 2020. This had a crucial impact — reducing Sinn Féin’s vote share and seat total, as well as contributing to a challenging election for People Before Profit — Solidarity and the broader socialist left.
No clear path out
This change in turnout differential was captured by where the exit poll got it wrong. In 2020, the exit poll under-estimated Sinn Féin by more than the margin of error because it could not have picked up that turnout from working class communities increased. In 2024, the opposite happened. Turnout in working class communities was down, and the exit poll overstated SF’s vote by more than the margin of error.
The absence of a clear route to kicking out Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael was not the only factor. Particularly for the socialist left, we succeed electorally when there are major social movements and people experience their own power to effect change. It gives people the confidence to demand much more, and it proves the relevance of having socialist representation in the Dáil. The classic example of this in recent years is the anti-water charges movement which saw politics shift left, including in 2016 with the forerunner of PBP-Solidarity getting 3.9% and returning 6 TDs. That was alongside the election of other left wing TDs like Joan Collins, Clare Daly and Thomas Pringle.
In the last few years, there was no such equivalent movement, with the partial and important exception of Palestinian solidarity. This unfortunately did not have the same deep impact across society. The many efforts to develop a major movement on housing were not successful. The Cost of Living Coalition which did put significant numbers on the streets in advance of the budget in 2022 won important concessions in the form of once-off payments and electricity credits. Ironically, they had the effect of reducing the momentum of the campaign and that mobilisation was not repeated.
This has been compounded by the emergence of anti-asylum seeker protests and sentiment and the associated emergence of the far-right as a political force. Although the openly far-right candidates polled poorly in the elections, they did have some success in sowing distrust in Sinn Féin and the radical left. This effect was reinforced by the response of Sinn Féin. Instead of standing up to their argumentation and pointing out that this was an attempt to divide working class people and direct anger at vulnerable people instead of the rich and powerful, they partially capitulated and positioned themselves to the right of the government on asylum seekers — calling for more cuts to payments and preparing to oppose centres for asylum seekers in working class communities.
This all undermined the possibility of the re-emergence of 2020 style momentum for change and a left government.
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Unity on the left
Nonetheless, things could still have been different. Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael are not popular. They just had their combined worst vote in electoral history. Their out-of-touch nature was encapsulated by Simon Harris’ rude engagement with Charlotte Fallon in Kanturk. The suffering of people — from the housing crisis, the health crisis and the crisis for children with additional needs — was a prevalent feature of the campaign. That this co-exists with Ireland’s status as one of the richest countries in the world is an indictment of FF and FG.
What was missing was a credible alternative. On the day before the election, Mary Lou McDonald called on Sinn Féin supporters to transfer to the Social Democrats, People Before Profit and independent candidates of the left. Gary Gannon responded for the Social Democrats, calling for their voters to transfer left too. This was very welcome — but it was too little, too late in reality.
Why did it not come much earlier — for example, when we wrote privately and publicly to these parties and others both before and after the local elections? What if, in advance of the election, Sinn Féin, the Social Democrats, People Before Profit and left independents had come together in a left front and transfer pact? If we had collectively ruled out coalition with FF or FG and instead offered the possibility of a left government based on radical policies and taking on the wealthy and corporate elites who profit from the social crises in our society.
Would we have won the election? It’s impossible to say. But I think you can confidently say it would have been a very different election campaign. The electorate would have been presented with a clear choice — continue with FF/FG or choose a left government. That would have driven up engagement, turnout and left transfers. The eventual result would have been much closer.
We can only stay in the realm of ‘what if’ for so long. Attention needs to turn to the question of ‘what now?’
The Social Democrats and Labour should not prop up Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael. If they do, they will just be a new mudguard for their right-wing policies. They will deservedly face the same fate as the Green Party in the next election.
A strong left opposition is needed to what is going to be a right-wing FF/FG dominated government. That will be within the Dáil, but also crucially on the streets, in the communities and workplaces.
People Before Profit will continue to build ourselves as a principled eco-socialist party committed to people power as the way to change society. We will also continue to work with others in broad coalitions to mobilise people on housing, climate, disability justice, Palestine and many other issues.
We also want to work with others to form a left front to give people a clear governmental alternative to FF and FG rule at the next possible opportunity.
Paul Murphy is a People Before Profit TD for Dublin South West.
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Considering your party lost more than half their seats in this election clearly shows the people of Ireland don’t want the PBP in government Paul. Your party even lost its Dail speaking rights.
@Ger Whelan: with SF/SocDem/Labour on 60 or more seats, it’s very doable that they can drum up support of another 20 odd seats to get a majority number at the next election.
@Colette Byrne: Labour ready to go into government,they can’t wait to get back to making the big money.
AK dying to be a minister again .
Labour are no more left than FF
@FG’s Rental Trap:
Problem for the kids In pbp is the other “left” parties and Sinn Fein are not hard left enough for them.
We have seen recently in the Euro elections we’re a retiring from politics Pbp TD put themselfs up againced left wing national embarrassment Claire Daly which sucked away votes from her. I wonder was it to settle an old score.
@Alan OConnor: You may be conflating some left-wing alliances as party changes over that period. I can’t remember the exact details, but the last three elections have seen some attempt to create a limited left wing umbrella platform.
@Alan OConnor: Exactly, in order to unite you need to be able to compromise.
That is something that the left has always had a lot of trouble with. As Brendan Behan said, the first item on the agenda is the split.
@Alan OConnor: The Dublin electorate have an awful lot to answer for vote in these absolute Muppets. The only thing they can engender is anger and resentment.
@Alan OConnor: Not my choice of TD but fair dues Paul got elected despite losing a lot of his voters in the voter boundary chanchangeable with him or not he believes in what he does and says. Better than some of the same old same old FF/FG TD’s there since the year dot !! The left will get there in the end because FF, FG vote is actually dropping from 20 years ago – others like SF are increasing every year !!
@James Gorman: That was shameful on his behalf,and not an iota of regret on his behalf,God forbid it was someone belonging to him was treated in that manner,I bet he would of seen it differently.
@James Gorman: Yep. Organising wasters to harass and intimidate workers installing meters. Screaming ‘peaceful protest’ an inch from someone’s face is not a peaceful protest.
Remember’Je suis Derek’? He was part of that too. These oiks thought they were the same as the people murdered by terrorists in Charlie Hebdo!
Murphy is delusional and an attention seeker. Politics is just his medium.
@sean weir: this may be true but a member of the dail should be equally or more concerned about the effect on the whole country as governments are there to try to balance the best by everyone which is often in conflict with local issues. Quite a few Independents also get elected and many are one or local issue candidates which may be the best locally but not nationally. Remember when large party politics involved fixing the pothole and we had very few small parties and independents. Times have changed but it is true that the small parties and independents need to get together to challenge the bigger ones but I think the last independent alliance fell apart while in government. Maybe the people just want the overall status quo to remain.
@Niall O’Cofaigh: blame the game not the player. In order to be elected in a representative democracy you have to deliver locally. If you want a different system that’s fine, I think we’d probably agree, but you cannot expect TDs to do anything different in the current system.
@sean weir: not all. I’m in his constituency. I have not seen him once in person in the 10 years I’ve lived here. Not once. His posters are everywhere but unlike the majority of the others, he didn’t canvas our area. Maybe he considers us not his demographic but still.
Paul, Firstly, I don’t understand how you have been re-elected after watching your performance during the last Dail.
Secondly, open your eyes to what’s going on in Ireland, homelessness, health, justice, and illegal immigration. The world you live in is not the world that most irish citizens live in.
The so called Left are not the solution. Too many egos fighting for power.
@Dog Tired: It really bothers the newly infatuated batch of Marxists that we have an amazing 100 years of onward development. Students infatuation with Marxism is understandable fantasy but the real world solves not exploits real needs
@thomas molloy: These Marxists believe housing should be a human right, for the sole reason that they want a free house built off of someone else’s labour.
@Peter Byrne: I agree. We deserve 15,000 homeless people. We deserve a crumbling health service. We deserve to underpay our teachers, our nurses, our soldiers, our firefighters. We deserve everything we get. Because it’s what we vote for. Irish farmers on the radio complaining about the Mercasur deal? Suck it up. You vote FFG, then expect their neoliberal policies.
@Peter Byrne: but they are happy enough when they get free water thanks to same left wing parties. We would be paying thousands a year in charges if ffg had their way.
@Anthony Curran: 15000 living in free accommodation supported by an industry of 20+ free loading charities, high paid CEO,s and millions circulating in various fiddles all at the taxpayers expense.
@Anthony Curran: What is the option? Vote for worse. The situation in Northern Ireland is worse. A lower cost of living maybe – thanks to Westminster and definitely not SF.
@Anthony Curran: I think you should leave SF, your ideology is more aligned with PBP & Communism. Ironically, as one of the many SF bots on here, the people that were floating voters & looking for an alternative in the Election, were only turned off SF by the likes of yourself & FG’s Rental Trap posts. I was going to vote SF, but the Referendums, Hate Speech & Immigration flip flops were the turning point. The Referendums were an eye opener, flip flopped & backed the wrong horse, Mary Lou doubles down on the fk up by saying she would re run it, then she was reined in by Matt Carthy, who obviously was instructed by HQ in Beal Feiriste. SF or PBP, whichever don’t offer us any hope or alternative to the mess we have.
@Anthony Curran: Telling farmers to suck it up, but then complaining about not getting paid enough. How about you work a bit harder and get your money up. If you can’t build your own shelter, then go buy one off of someone who can. The catch is you will have to give them something in return for their materials and labour. (That something is called money).
I dont get how this communist won his seat back (barely).ffg are not right wing either which he always says..they have been center left if anything but he wants us to go extreme left.no thanks.
@barry fay: that 2% is people with no brain who fully believe that they should be given the human right to housing of if someone else’s labour and materials.
@Dominic Leleu: Ty hey got together to stop RN in France, and called it a huge victory although there are now more RN TDs than before, then although having the majority, could not even decide if a first minister.
don’t make me even start on what they stand for… ridiculous
@Richard Ryan: great reply numb nuts. The left wing alliance even had to get The Communist party of France into their coalition to get power. As we all know, throughout human history, left wing policies sound amazing to someone with no brain. Free house, free food, free healthcare, free everything. In reality it obviously never works because why would a construction worker work when they can just get everything for free. So they all wait around for the ‘human right to housing’ that they have been ‘given’ by the lefties, but with nobody to actually build the houses, or work in the healthcare, or grow the food.
Strange, Murphy identifying as a left winger. Is he for real? They are the nearest thing to Commies that you’ll get. Look at the disrespect they afforded Zelensky on his visit to the Dail.
It’s only yourself you are fooling!!
How about instead of writing this you take down all your posters considering the election was a week ago. Sick of looking at them every day. All others have taken down theirs in the area.
Hey paul, good of you to let your child choose HIS gender, anyone calling their son Juniper needs a kick in the nads to reassert any confusion over gender.
@Freda Peeple:
Wonder does Pop up Paul
have private health insurance.
Wonder has pop up Paul got his/ she /it’s name down for the local private fee paying school.
I think it’s been shown that left unity is virtually impossible with their multiple factions. I’ve friends in that circle and they couldn’t agree on the colour of sh**e. One is labeled as a Trot or Marxist if they vary slightly in their opinions to the other. The same can be said for the fragmented right wing parties and I still maintain that followers of extremes on either side are two cheeks of the same arse.
@paulmurphy : Do you not see the irony in calling for left-wing unity in the headline and then only making it to the third paragraph of your piece before attacking Sinn Fein for a lack of ambition? This article is indicative of the exact problem on the left, if you want to be brave and ambitious consider joining Sinn Fein and bringing as many leftists as you can with you.
@Miles Kennedy: why would left wing TDs join Sinn Fein? The party might purport to be of the left, but their rabid ultra-nationalism shows them to be a right wing party.
The Far Left wouldn’t last a week together & Murphy would be the first to bring it down. He can’t agree with anything or anyone, has to shout down everybody & impose his ideologies on everybody. His day is gone, people don’t listen to him anymore, working class Dublin saw through him, he has more time for those arriving weekly in record numbers, than he does in the plight of Irish people in working class communities. Happy to stay shouting on the sidelines while taking a TD’s salary & expenses, waste of a vote & the Far Left coming together will never happen, too many egotistical leaders who are from backgrounds a million miles from those they purport to represent.
@Ed Brennan: In terms of housing, no, I ghink you’ll find that Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil have already down thst, with a worse public health service the ’50′s.
What does Left mean these days because Sinn Fein are not a party on the left they are whatever you want them to be as people who vote for them vote brand SInn Fein.
@padraig godley: I think you’ll find that they believe that the biggest poolluters should pay water charges, not the ordinary person. Ironic as it is tye water infrastructure that is wasting water. Property tax, I think you’ll find that the Socialist belief set does not encompass a property tax, it actually believes that the state should pay for housing with the pccupany paying rent, a scheme actually used throughout Europe while countries aren’t Socialist. You seem to be making up Socialist beliefs as you go along, tends to happen when conservatives speak for Socialists. You buy a house and then the state says ‘You don’t own that land, you still have to pay us a property tax’ so tyerefore you never really own it, at least Socialists are honest in their beliefs, unlike conservatives.
Why is the Journal giving this clown any sort of attention? He is the most embarrassing and most clueless member of the entire Dáil and that’s saying something with the current crop that we have in there.
@Frank O’Hara: For the clicks of course! Lunatics & headbangers like Paul Murphy drive traffic allowing the Journal to show brightly coloured charts from Google Analytics to their advertisers & charge them more – capitalism at its finest!
@Franno: I wouldn’t burn down an IP centre, and I love our local librarian. You do illustrate what turns most people off of headbangers like Murphy, though. The instant extreme accusations are a little silly.
I will, however, continue to laugh at Murphy.
@P. J.: Supporting the world’s only Jewish state isn’t an extreme position, PJ. I would, however, be interested in some evidence of “a few extreme positions” I’ve pontificated on…
@honey badger: Supporting the perpetrators of genocide and war crimes is the definition of extreme. You refused even to condemn sickening settler violence towards Palestinian children. Will you finally rid yourself of this odious position and condemn Israeli atrocities? Go on… Prove you’re not an extremist. It’s easy!
@Darth O’Leary: Throw up your evidence of this “refusal” there, Darth! You headbangers, like the op, are heavy on accusations but vanish when asked to support them.
@honey badger: Seriously, what would be a red line that, if crossed, would prompt you to condemn Israel’s actions?
Bernie Sanders wrote in October: Israel ‘did not have the right to wage an all-out war against the entire Palestinian people. It did not have the right to kill 42,000 Palestinians, two-thirds of whom were children, women and the elderly, or injure over 100,000 people in Gaza. It did not have the right to destroy Gaza’s infrastructure and housing and healthcare systems. It did not have the right to bomb every one of Gaza’s 12 universities. It did not have the right to block humanitarian aid, causing massive malnutrition in children and, in fact, starvation.’
Clearly none of those actions has affected your unconditional support for Israel. What would?
@honey badger: There was an article ages ago about settler violence. You brought me around and around in circles but refused to condemn any settlers’ actions. Do you condemn Israeli settlers’ attacks on Palestinian civilians? A simple yes would clear everything up
@Brendan O’Brien: I’m sorry, Brendan, you’re a joke. You’ve said moments ago that I’d support the annihilation of all Palestinians. This is hyperbolic evidence-free nonsense. I’ve answered these questions several times on the few relevant articles where comments are allowed. Yourself (and darth) don’t like those answers and persist in repeating yourselves. It’s really boring.
@honey badger: You need a link to remember if you condemn settler violence towards Palestinian civilians? Most people would just outright condemn that but not you. If I’m wrong you won’t have a problem condemning it now, will you? So on you go…!
@Darth O’Leary: No. I’d like you to produce the evidence of your claim, that’s all. Like all the other times you said this and vanished. We both know I’ve already answered this, you didn’t like the reply, so persist with this drivel. Show your evidence, please.
@honey badger: Why not answer the question(s) here? It would have taken no more time than the reply you just wrote refusing to answer.
Clearly as far as you’re concerned Israel is right by definition and therefore can do no wrong. Human rights, human lives, human dignity mean nothing to you if the humans in question happen to be Palestinian. Yet you are coy about explicitly stating this. You want to have it both ways: to appear to be a relatively reasonable person while tacitly endorsing extreme breaches of human rights and international law, right up to the level of genocide.
@Brendan O’Brien: Again. Hyperbole, projection, and bluster. I’ve answered all these questions several times. That you didn’t like those answers is not my concern. I want peace, two states, and prosperity for all. It’s that simple.
@honey badger: My evidence is right here in this thread. You were given many opportunities to condemn extremist violence perpetrated by Israeli settlers in this thread, today! You consistently refused. Why not just condemn the violence? Oh yeah, because you have no problems with extremist views that you happen to share but you have the audacity to call Paul Murphy an extremist. Your hypocrisy is glaring
@Darth O’Leary: I’ve only asked you to produce evidence, Darth. I’ve already answered these questions several times – you didn’t like those answers. If you want to read/hear things you like, grab a book or a parrot. I’ll take it that you can’t produce a link. Again. PFO now.
@honey badger: you have never once answered these questions. You are a liar as well as a hypocrite and an extremist bigot. Nice combo. Getting profane now as well!! I(or someone else) will always be here to remind you of your lowly moral standing in this regard. That’s how consequences work little man
@honey badger: Amnesty International’s research has found sufficient basis to conclude that Israel has committed and is continuing to commit genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip, the organization said in a landmark new report published today.
The report, ‘You Feel Like You Are Subhuman’: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza, documents how, during its military offensive launched in the wake of the deadly Hamas-led attacks in southern Israel on 7 October 2023, Israel has unleashed hell and destruction on Palestinians in Gaza brazenly, continuously and with total impunity.
“Amnesty International’s report demonstrates that Israel has carried out acts prohibited under the Genocide Convention, with the specific intent to destroy Palestinians in Gaza. These acts include killings, causing serious bodily or mental harm and deliberately inflicting on Palestinians in Gaza conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction. Month after month, Israel has treated Palestinians in Gaza as a subhuman group unworthy of human rights and dignity, demonstrating its intent to physically destroy them,” said Agnès Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International.
“Our damning findings must serve as a wake-up call to the international community: this is genocide. It must stop now.”
@H Woo: Absolute rubbish from you as usual. My objection to Israeli war crimes has nothing to do with religion. What genocide in Syria? Do you mean the Christian enclaves in Syria being attacked by Western backed malitias and defended by Syrian government troops? As usual your Israeli propaganda falls flat.
I’m not a Sinn Féin supporter, but it’s ironic that the far-right attacked a left-wing party that wasn’t in government and helped hand the keys back to Fine Gael & Fianna Fáil for another 5 years. Turkeys.
Punch and Judy politics. Left and Right are redundant terms, there is just an oppressive establishment that there’s no getting away from. Ireland needs to dump the wokism, reduce taxes and build houses. Otherwise nobody with any sense will stay there.
A joke if a man. A joke of a party. And as for the Left Alliance I would give Monty Pythons People’s Party a way better chance of Governing Ireland! Good Luck!!!
The Lefty liberals like yourself are a dyeing breed. Europe is tending to the center or center right parties due to left wing policies that are destroying Ireland.
Imagine champayne socialists like this lad and boyd barret with any kind of power!?.That is scary.
FFFG are golidlocks party..not too hot..not too cold.
That is who we are.
Tax us all you want ,give us 150 free esb??
We are happy!
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Information about your activity on this service, such as your interaction with ads or content, can be very helpful to improve products and services and to build new products and services based on user interactions, the type of audience, etc. This specific purpose does not include the development or improvement of user profiles and identifiers.
Use limited data to select content 37 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type, or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times a video or an article is presented to you).
Use precise geolocation data 46 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Actively scan device characteristics for identification 27 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors 92 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Deliver and present advertising and content 99 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 72 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 53 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 88 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 69 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
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