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EVERY EVENING,TheJournal.ie brings you the latest news and campaign moves, squabbles and – hopefully – useful tidbits of information as we face into the 31 May Fiscal Compact referendum.
(If you just want to make up your mind by yourself, you can read TheJournal.ie’s layman’s guide to the treaty).
WHAT’S NEW?
VILLAGE PEOPLE HOMAGE OF THE DAY
Three TDs and a Senator from the Yes campaign are masters of the dancefloor, as this photo provided by Maman Poulet demonstrates.
CUNNING WASTE OF OPPOSITION’S PHOTOCOPYING BUDGET OF THE DAY
Enda Kenny takes a leaflet from ‘No’ activist Colm Roddy on his way into Government buildings this morning. (Photo: Photocall Ireland)
CELEBRITY EAU DE TOILETTE WATCH OF THE DAY
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Damien Dempsey explains why he’s voting No. But the real question is: what brand of aftershave is that above his right shoulder?
SO MUCH FOR DEMOCRACY OF THE DAY
UNFORTUNATE CAMERA ANGLE OF THE DAY
The full sign reads "Bad Bank Debt - Demand A Better Deal" (Photo: Photocall Ireland)
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All those so clever business people voting yes to the treaty, voting to tighten fiscal unity and they are on the ladder to ruin, the ecj can take the nesecary measures to correct our deficit if we’re not on target and the treaty also is making them above all legal reproach, something nobody has talked about? why? answerable to nobody. Good bye Corporation tax rate!!! I think the yes side are going to feel very duped within the year. Clowns.
Our taxation policy with respect to corporations is not affected in any way by the treaty.
James, not at the moment. But the treaty is going to be changed, otherwise france will not ratify it, and the new french president is calling for tax harmonisation.
at James, the tax rate would be up for grabs to be honest,, as Article 9 states, “All member states must work jointly towords Economic policy thats fair on all member states”, and we know they love our corporation tax,
And are you a clever man maybe we should get you to run the country and the European union seeing you know so much NOT
Joe, any country can reduce their corporation tax rates if they so wish.
@ James hahahahaha ha ha
Im with David on this one.. Im cool 2 and voting No..:)
Well I’m super cool so I’m voting no twice. ;)
STOP THE BORROWING NOW!
Yes or No we are continuing to borrow simply to fund bloated politician and public sector salaries. Our esteemed Central Bank Governor, who negotiated our current indebtedness can afford a €63,000 pay cut! He still earns a whopping €213,000.
Eric, the man is clever and has a hard job. He ain’t packing shelves in Aldi.
He deserves it
“This makes the begging bowl the central expression of government policy. It will dictate our future lives through our part in the colossal funding of more resources for the bankrupt EU and for the banking system it is propping up because it knows no other way.
These Government commitments put us permanently in the hands of an organisation that will take over the amending of present and future EU laws and treaties, doing so under no democratic control at all. How, then, can we trust it?
The energies that once comprised Ireland’s sovereignty will be engaged in paying colossal financial dues to the stability mechanism. If we vote Yes to the fiscal compact treaty, we open ourselves to this surrender of sovereignty. The begging bowl becomes our way forward.”
Bruce Arnold
Honohan would be of more benefit to this country if he was stacking shelves in Aldi’s.
Who negotiated Irelands bailout with the Troika?
Well said Sean and it seems we’re in agreement for once Red. I’ll keep my post in English so you’ll understand it. Formalities over. Honohan does not need to be earning that sum of money. Everybody on the NO side know there are tough times ahead but we should be doing it together. No one needs to be earning that much. Not when we’re in a crises. Greedy bankers.
james obviously a fine gaeler. you cant say for certainty that our corporation tax wont be up for grabs if eu come in and take over budget control.vote no!!!!!!
If they ever have to come in again then they can do as they like in my opinion. We gotta get our house in order and stick to the rules. By the way, no party persuasion here but if I had to chose one it would be Labour.
france and germany have wanted to change it for years. our corporation tax is what got the big companies to invest in ireland. germany want corporation tax to be similar in eu countries
Where is Phil Hogan?
Counting his household charges and tracking down the spongers.
Definitely not paying the household tax on his Portugese villa!
Hogan is still locked in the post room with the black sacks. He hasn’t found any money yet. Just a whole load of letters telling him where to stick his Household Tax.
I find it impossible to vote yes for the referendum and I want to vote for the spirit of the Idea. But when this treaty is going to be changed anyway by the promoters I find it impossible. Our leaders are not only lying to us they are also selling us out 100% as part of the referendum allows them to automatically ratify further changes with calling for another.
Now our president is supposed to protect us as well but that looks like it’s not going to happen, suppose he is to busy reading poetry.
So I am voting NO to a treaty that will not exist in a few weeks and anybody with a bit of sense should do the same.
I honestly think what the No side are up against here is people blindly voting for what their party say to vote for, this is too important not to invest a lot of time looking into. If they did they would probably vote it down on a number of said reasons. People need to change, There’s too much at stake, Maybe we need to get shafted again for people to realize, but by then it will be to late.
I agree you should follow your informed conviction rather than being cattle or in this case lemmings to the pide piper
Damien Dempsey seems to think we’re voting on the bailout here. We’re not.
Such an awful video.
Try this one instead :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWNRHo8reY
Awaits the usual thumbs down…….
If enda Kenny jumped off a bridge would you have jumped off before or after him?
The horse has bolted, with regards to treaty. With regards to the present, You need to fix the problem before you then go ahead and put measures in place so the same accident does not happen again. Putting the measures in place in the middle of fixing the problem is prohibitive.. When we get back to black then it is the right time for protecting future failings. This is simply a demand Germany is making to ensure a return on money is guaranteed despite knowing it is exasperating the problems.
I’m quite certain that you found Damien Dempsey’s video difficult to watch David. Dempsey sounded like he cared about about the ordinary members of our society. A concept alien to a YFGer.
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