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Referendum on women’s place in the home may be delayed until next year

Concerns have been raised about the proposal for a straight-forward deletion of the reference to women in the home in the Constitution.

THE REFERENDUM ON the woman’s place in the home may be delayed until next year, due to a decision made by the Dáil’s business committee this morning.

The referendum was expected to be held at the end of October, on the same day as presidential election and the referendum on removing the reference to blasphemy in the Constitution.

However, the Dáil’s business committee agreed the Bill to allow for a referendum must go through pre-legislative scrutiny.

Concerns have been raised about the proposal for a straight-forward deletion of the reference to women in the home in the Constitution.

The government decided to proceed with a proposal to delete the wording, despite concerns expressed by the Constitutional Convention and the Justice Department.

It had been suggested that the clause should be amended rather than deleted completely and that a gender-neutral clause or a reference to women caring in the home should be included.

During the week, the Taoiseach said reference to women in the home should be totally deleted, adding that the language is “sexist and anachronistic”.

Given the contention on the issue, the business committee refused to grant a request to waive the pre-legislative scrutiny of the Bill which allows for a referendum (which is regularly requested by ministers)

It is understood the committee agreed the Bill must now go before the Oireachtas Justice Committee in September.

TheJournal.ie understands that it has been suggested that this is too late for establishing the Referendum Commission before the proposed date of the end of October.

It is understood the referendum could be held on the same day as the EU and local elections on 24 May, unless government goes for stand alone date early next year.

A number of referendums are due to be held in 2019. These include:

  • to extend voting rights to citizens living abroad
  • liberalising Ireland’s divorce laws
  • reducing the voting age to 16

It is understood Cabinet has been informed of the Business Committee’s decision.

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:04 PM

    In reality very little was given back. Income tax was not reduced. Tax on Petrol and Diesel was not reduced. The USC cuts were minimal. Motor Tax for ordinary cars was not touched. VRT was not touched. Vat was not touched. So for all the hype in reality its as if their was no budget for middle income earners.

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    Mute Thomas Clarke
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    Oct 13th 2015, 10:48 PM

    im up 1600 a year, im delighted :)

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Oct 13th 2015, 11:26 PM

    You must be earning €150,000 + then. Nice money if you can get it but thoes of us on normal incomes this budget may just as well never happened at all.

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    Mute Tony Skillington
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    Oct 14th 2015, 8:39 AM

    Mick..add to that they haven’t done anything about the anomaly regarding social welfare entitlements for the self employed and you’re correct..all smoke and mirrors and all of the ‘giveaways’ will be take back if they are in power next budget…keep Edna and his ‘dipidees’ out.

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    Mute Tony Skillington
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    Oct 14th 2015, 8:40 AM

    Ignore him Mick..he’s sent in by the FG mother ship to wave the flag every now and then.

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    Mute Supernova
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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:50 PM

    No. Hopefully most people will take the miniscule goodies and then vote them out.

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    Mute Paul Mc
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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:55 PM

    It’s not unusual for the rich to look after the rich.

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    Mute The Magnificent Hog
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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:58 PM

    Thanks to FG/Lab policies, the rich are scarce. Definitely not enough of them to vote them back in. Hopefully.

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    Mute Paul
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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:59 PM

    Supernova

    Give a credible alternative and people may consider….

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    Mute mickmc
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:04 PM

    So who would you vote in supernova?

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    Mute The Magnificent Hog
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:05 PM

    Really, Dustin The Turkey?? No prizes for guessing who pays your wages!!

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    Mute Supernova
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:07 PM

    Sinn féin.

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    Mute Supernova
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:07 PM

    @paul @mcmc

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    Mute mickmc
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:13 PM

    Be careful what you wish for. How well has SF looked after the working class in the north. After a few weekof stamping of their feet they rubber stamped the cut imposed by David Cameron. Great socialist they’re are

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    Mute Paul Mc
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:30 PM

    Not so mickmc try doing a bit of research and you will find that in the 6 counties Sinn Fein are the only large party in the assembly who represent the most vulnerable members of society regardless of religion or class.

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    Mute mickmc
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:40 PM

    Apart from talking waffle how exactly do they help the most “vulnerable members of society”. And by vulnerable do you mean that layabouts that have never none a day work in their lives.

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    Mute Paul Mc
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:53 PM

    Try reading what I stated brother mc.

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    Mute mickmc
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    Oct 13th 2015, 9:14 PM

    Your lacking a lot of detail in your statement. I’m looking for specific how SF have help the vulnerable in both communities in North Ireland

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    Oct 13th 2015, 9:40 PM

    I have family and friends in the 6 counties and that’s what they tell me as I said try doing your own research and don’t be listening to the 26 county politicians who have vested interests in bad mouthing their political rivals.

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    Mute mickmc
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    Oct 13th 2015, 9:46 PM

    In other word Paul your waffling.

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    Mute Thomas Clarke
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    Oct 13th 2015, 10:51 PM

    A fantastic budget. meanwhile SF impose savage cuts on working class people in northern ireland. who are the austerity party again. how many lives has brutal SF austerity taken in northern ireland?

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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:58 PM

    Two tweets above regards 50 million on 1916 commemorative program. 10 million for homeless crisis. Says all really about this scanlous government. Those that fought and died for this freedom will be turning in their graces. Shame on you FG/LAB..

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    Mute Denise Prendergast
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:11 PM

    I am praying that these fools don’t get back in. Cuts after cuts and then when an election is due to be called they give the OAP a little Rise and then Christmas bonus is also increased, also the disabled people get their respite back. Looks like these idiots are trying to get voters back. I care for my partner who is blind he wasn’t always blind he held down a full time job.They refuse him the blind pension at first because they said he wasn’t blind even though he was register blind by the eye and ear hospital.we have suffered for the last few years because of all the cuts, we would rather not depend on Social welfare but atm we have no choice. We have two teenage boys and we would love them to contribute to this country but after what I have seen in the last few years ie, bankers and builders getting away with hundreds or thousands of euros and not forgetting Politicans who have robbed this state I have told my sons as soon as they are old enough to get out of Ireland because it is corrupt. I could go on and on but I think everybody who has suffer over the last few years will understand what I am saying

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    Mute Thomas Clarke
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    Oct 13th 2015, 10:52 PM

    FG popularity is reflective of their fantastic policies. the polls dont lie :)

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    Oct 13th 2015, 10:58 PM

    Just to let everyone know my partner was working since he was 16 , he and I never claimed for anything until he was diagnosed that he was going blind, so let the red thumbs keep hitting because you are either against people that have a disability or against people who are forced onto welfare through no fault of their own. But the red thumbs have to realise that with carers we are saving this government millions. I have to tell my partner all the time were things are , if the cooker is on , if the presses are open etc etc without us carers our hospitals would be packed out all the time. But that’s happening already .

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    Mute Tap Solny
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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:58 PM

    People on €25,000 per year should have the same take home pay as those on €70,000 per year. It makes sense. Well it would if you were a member of one of the loony cults.

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    Mute Thomas Clarke
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    Oct 13th 2015, 10:54 PM

    und SF proposals every working person would have to adopt a shinner and pay their way in life

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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:15 PM

    That universal social charge should be gone completely!! It was only apparently brought in because of the recession.
    Also, free GP care for u6? We pay enough tax in this country for free health care for all like England. Absolute disgrace this country is.

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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:49 PM

    richard i also voted fg in last election as most of my family did..far too much chronyism and too many lies..all our votes for fg are lost next time..how many other people have done the same u think ?

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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:28 PM

    Children with disabilities and carers in a family with a second income were looked after to some extent. Sweet all for adults with disabilities or carers solely relying on 203 a week carers allowance who could be caring up to or over 100 hours a week. The Christmas bonus partly restored and respite restored to what it was years ago. Meanwhile the cost of living has significantly increased. I’m sure most carers would rather their weekly payment reflected the work they do and the billions they save this country than a so-called social welfare bonus.

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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:57 PM

    I have to say I’d love Ends back in. He in my opinion fixed the mess that was left to him.

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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:19 PM

    Richard, no he didn’t fix the mess all all. He followed the agreement set out between FF/troika. Outside factors have also helped, i.e. Weak euro and cheaper energy prices. Kenny et al have been complicit in giving more jobs/contracts etc to the boys. Cronyism and nepotism are alive and well despite all the talk of transparency and new politics. This is simply an election budget. I would also imagine that some scandal will will appear between now and the election and whatever benefits they reap as a result of this giveaway budget will be lost.

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    Mute Richard o Rourke
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:23 PM

    So who do you reckon is best to have SF? That’s all the country seemingly wants in but they would ruin it. I think Enda has done well with what he had. Country is well on the way to recovery.

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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:37 PM

    Richard, why would you think I would vote SF just because I think kenny is doing a bad job? I voted FG/Lab in GE 2011. I don’t like people who lie, Kenny lied in order to get into power, he promised the sun, moon and stars and hasn’t delivered. Today’s budget did nothing for those on hospital trolleys, nothing for the homeless. What kind of society do you want Richard?

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    Oct 13th 2015, 9:55 PM

    I voted SF last time,no way would I vote them again,their fantasy economics will ruin what small recovery we have. (although I’m sure they don’t believe half the crapp they say).
    If people really believe SF is the answer,look north!they’re doing the opposite to what they preach

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    Mute Thomas Clarke
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    Oct 13th 2015, 10:55 PM

    the absue scandal and disgraceful coverup turned any decent people away from SF

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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:06 PM

    I wrote on twitter earlier that the actual budget will be judged in relation to disability issues in comparison to the social democrats support for independent living. This being a position which in disability politics is held in common from our far left to our centre right. The budget fails to measure up in this regard. It will not remove disabled people from segregation.

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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:49 PM

    I hope not..

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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:59 PM

    FG are a dead cert to get back in and most likely with labour and a scattering of independents… I’m afraid that’s just the way it is people until a viable alternative is put in place

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    Mute Thomas Conere
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    Oct 13th 2015, 8:44 PM

    “No Vasoline” by the esteemed Ice Cube is playing on loop in my brain reading all the budget news.

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    Mute Paul
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    Oct 13th 2015, 7:57 PM

    Not enough alone but I think a few Independents could be convinced to join them……all TD are power hungry so won’t take much to bring them on side.

    A reminder of how many less seats that will be available and how many they will require in 2016 would be good….

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    Mute Ian Woods
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    Oct 13th 2015, 9:28 PM

    Ógra Fianna Fáil response – So many things that make such a large dfference can be done so cheaply – https://twitter.com/eoinneylon/status/653989363576119296

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    Mute Sarah Hill
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    Oct 14th 2015, 2:04 AM

    Red arrow away but what the hell is usc?

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