Sign in. It’s quick, free and it’s up to you.
An account is an optional way to support the work we do. Find out more.
LAST UPDATE | 17 Oct 2024
TAOISEACH SIMON HARRIS has said it is his prerogative to consider when an election is in “the best interest for Ireland”.
Harris had previously said the Government should “go full term” before an election is called, however election speculation has been rife in political circles, with the majority predicting an election before Christmas.
Speaking to reporters in Brussels, the Taoiseach said he wanted Government to “finish the work that is underway”.
He said he will make the decision when the the next election will be “in a considered way”.
“When is the right time for Ireland to have a general election? When is the right time for me to ask the people of Ireland to renew my mandate? he said.
The Social Welfare and Gambling bills, as well as hate crime legislation, passed all stages last night, further adding the to speculation that an early election is coming.
In addition, a planned trade mission to Poland, which the Taoiseach was to lead, has been cancelled.
While the trip has been postponed with sources downplaying the cancellation of the trip, it also points to the calendar being cleared for a possible election.
Harris has said he will consult the coalition leaders in advance of any announcement.
“I’ve been Taoiseach of this country for just over six months, I very much look forward to putting my case to the people and asking the people to give me an opportunity to have a mandate to be Taoiseach for the time ahead.
“I will want this Government to end well, because this Government works well. We have had more than four-and-a-half years now, we have delivered five budgets, and I will discuss in due course with my colleagues when I believe the right time is.”
He added: “I want to see when is the right time, when the work that is underway is completed, when is there a proper space to have an election, and when is that time best for Ireland.”
On Wednesday, Tánaiste Micheal Martin spoke about specific timings when an election might be possible , but he said the Finance Bill needs to be passed to give effect to the budget.
Speaking to the Irish Times Inside Politics podcast, Martin said his view remained that the Government has “work to complete”.
He said:
“To a large extent there are two dates for this election – one is end of November, beginning of December, or February. The gap between November and February isn’t huge.”
“The Finance Bill will be the key piece of legislation and that scheduling is in for the first week of November for committee stage,” he said. There is no indication in next week’s Dáil schedule that the bill is being fast-tracked.
“If it’s the desire of some and others to do things earlier, we’d need to game that and people would need to work through the timelines around critical pieces of legislation,” Martin said yesterday.
The Dáil is due to rise on 24 October and not return until 5 November, with a bank holiday on the 28 October.
The dates being talked about by those in Leinster House for a possible election include 22 November, 29 November or 6 December. Again, all this is mere speculation.
Legally, an election has to be held before March 2025 when the current Government will reach its five year limit, but many have suspected that as soon as the Budget was out of the way it would be game on.
Speaking in Washington DC last week, Harris told reporters passing essential budget legislation – like the Social Welfare and Finance Bills – was one of his priorities in addition to setting the new Government housing targets, and “significantly” progressing mental health and defamation legislation.
The mental health and defamation bills have not yet been passed.
To embed this post, copy the code below on your site
She seems a charmer. Goes to Clare County Council, looking for their support, and when questioned threatens to sue people. How to win friends and influence people.
@Dave Slater: ….when libeled threatens to sue people.
fixed that for you there
@Dave Slater: I don’t hear jimmy criticizing the FF bagman to the media.
@We Love Katamari: shes being purposely ignored by the media, save for negative articles like this one.
hopefully she gets the support of 20 TDs as a public interest candidate, social media is on fire with people willing to vote for her.
@Dermo Adams: she’ll struggle to get them, I emailed my Independent TD to ask him to support her nomination, he took the well worn path of the Irish politician, Silence.
He fears he’ll lose a vote if he was truthful and a man.
Those at the Trough don’t want anybody rocking it.
@Sean Conway: so unless he does, his comments somehow don’t matter?
@Dermo Adams:
How can you say she’s being ignored by the media?
You are literally commenting publically on her on one of Ireland’s largest media platforms.
There have been dozens of articles and reports on her over the last three weeks here on Journal, Irish Examiner, Irish Times, Irish Independent, Sunday Business Post, and all radio and TV shows.
That she cannot get a single Council to back her speaks volumes.
I guess people just plain don’t like her views.
@Brinster:
A bit like the people who spoke out against the Church in the bad old days?
A lot of people didn’t like hearing the truth then either
@Bernie Roche: so you think Jimmy Guerin shouldn’t be allowed to ask that rumour and hearsay about his sister’s death be thrown about with no evidence (or seemingly no plan to ever show evidence) because of another, unrelated situation?
Doesn’t seem fair to Jimmy if you ask me.
@Only here for the comments: I never said anything about Jimmy Guerin.
I was replying to brinster who said
‘That she cannot get a single Council to back her speaks volumes.
I guess people just plain don’t like her views.’
That sort of attitude is why corruption is rife in this country
@Bernie Roche:
People don’t like her views, Bernie, because she is a conspiracy theorist anti vaxxer who exploits misery, fear and ignorance all for the purposes of self promotion.
Then threatens to sue anyone who dares to question her on her own un-evidenced pronouncements.
She appeared in front of Clare CoCo to ask for their votes – as soon as they questioned her she threatened to sue them.
So I don’t think it is anything to do with corruption.
It is to do with her being the Worst Candidate I Have Seen in My Lifetime.
@Brinster: You forgot toxic. The people who don’t like her views are people who don’t like having the mainstream narrative questioned.
By the way conspiracies happen all the time, the banking and insurance cartels are 2 glaring examples.
Another one coming down the line is going to be gardai in cahoots with drug dealers.
You will have a great time with that one.
I do agree she is a poor candidate for the presidency
@Brinster: Speaking of evidence, you can produce yours of where she says she’s antivax? No? Didn’t think so, cause she’s not and you’ve just swallowed the narrative that MSM wants you to.
@Bernie Roche: you claim what she said is true, how could you possibly know that? She has provided no actual evidence.
Same tack used to silence Garreth O’Callaghan on the Philip Cairns issue.
@Chemical Brothers: Give it a rest with the conspiracy theories
@Chemical Brothers: completely different case, circumstance, evidence, arrests, convictions, but hey, it’s all a connected conspiracy man ….
@Tweety McTweeter: Like her callanan penalty points conspiracy theory? like her missing 12 foot bood stained fence theory? like her mary boyle theory.?
gemma has form getting things right
@Chemical Brothers: Philip cairns family wanted him to stop with his behaviour
@We Love Katamari: and so is incapable of being wrong?
@We Love Katamari: even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
@James Kiernan: she has a shniff for a story and she bases it off evidence. She doesn’t tend to flippantly remark on any rumour for no good reason. She built her career on building relationships with informants and people who know what’s happening on the ground whatever ground that may be. It might be unpleasant for her brother as he doesn’t want to reopen old wounds as do many victims families of falsely accused murderers.
Gemma was warned by another Guerin family member about possible involvement by the state in Veronicas murder. Gemma reported on it a good few years back. I don’t see what the problem is here.
@Bobby Moore: Let her name all these people so.
@Brinster: ‘a toxic conspiracy theorist anti vaxxer’
They paying you per insult now?
@The Risen: but anti vaxxer and conspiracy theorist are positions she demonstrates. Toxic would be a cheap enough one….if you were paying, like.
@Brinster: She reported on it. It’s what journalists do. She didn’t do it as a publicity stunt as you state. But then again that’s all you FG shills do is try and muddy the waters and try smear any sort of opposition.
She has stated quiet clearly that she is not an anti vaxer either. But you still spread that lie about her. Won’t you.
@Brinster:
Nothing but an overreaction from Jimmy Guerin that’s been manipulated and fuelled on by desperate state corruption apologists folks like you flapping all around threads like this.
You should be ashamed of yourself but you’re obviously not.
@Bobby Moore: it’s not reporting if there’s no evidence.
@Tweed Cap: Your being misled by a tinfoilt hat, sensenaist fake
I don’t see what Mr Guerin is getting so upset about. Nothing O’Doherty has claimed is an insult to Veroica or her memory. To say it is an insult is just obviously politically motivated hyperbole. I’ve no great opinion about Gemma O’D one way or another, by the way
@Paul Devlin: it gets too close to the newspaper group who pushed an employee hard, then harder, until
@Paul Devlin: She’s claiming that the person convicted of the murder was not responsible.
That robs the family of justice. Of closure.
Maybe you could come back to us when a conspiracy theorist starts making up lies about a murdered member of your family before proclaiming that Jimmy Guerin isn’t entitled to feel sickened by this.
@Brinster:
State fanboy
@Mick Barnier: adding Insult to injury there. suggesting that Veronica guerin wasn’t doing things of her own accord but instead was being pushed in some way? Typical of O’Doherty cheerleaders, there’s always someone behind the curtain isn’t there?
@sixmile:
Darn right I’m a State fanboy.
I love my country.
I’m actally proud to be Irish.
Unlike a lot of the “patriots” on here.
@Brinster: The state is not the country
@Bernie Roche:
fg thinks the state is everything, hence the fg fanboys reply.
@Brinster: You’re working very hard tonight on behalf of FG.
@Brinster: you are a complete contradiction. Veronica’s brother claims it was John Gilligan that had her murdered, however gilligan was never found guilty of her murder, so therefore the family is robbed of closure already. Just goes to show what a clown you are. You FG shill
@Dave Doyle: Gema o@Dorhethy is a f\
ake
Your working hard for the gangsters that killed Veronica Guerin
@@at: Ah yes the Shinners worked well with the Dealers
Let her run and let the people decide her fate.
@Paddy Downey: grand. But if she spouts nonsense should we not point it out? Or should she get a free pass because she’s running for office? That isn’t how it works for anyone else.
@Paddy Downey:
Worst.
Candidate.
Ever.
@Paddy Downey: I agree. I’m not sure how I feel about her but I’d definitely like to see her given a platform to speak and be challenged through a campaign. It wouldn’t be a good look for the political establishment if she wasn’t given the opportunity.
Gemma needs to lay off the hooch, a) for this ridiculous theory and b) for genuinely thinking she has a hope of becoming president. The new Jim Corr
@Alonso:
@Alonso: at least you give a good description of the cross they are nailing her to.
The last candidate I would vote for.
The woman is an embarrassment to genuine journalists. She should forget about the presidency and concentrate on her works of fiction for the tin foil hat folk.
@Willie: Oh, please name all of these ‘genuine journalists’ for us please? The ones afraid to step out of line for fear of being blackballed by INM, or the ones who report whatever the government and Garda press office hand to them?
@The Risen: you know most of the time there really isn’t a conspiracy but one needs evidence to back up ludicrous claims
@The Risen:
Better still let’s see Gemma produce one single piece of evidence aside from rumour and speculation.
@The Risen: Honestly you’ve embarrassed yourself beyond belief backing this anti vaxxer conspiracy theorist.
@Brinster: you seem to be obsessed with gemma running, or is it just fg letting their little attack pup out of the broom cupboard
@Brinster: Whats embarrassing is seeing you completely lose your shit and carpetbomb every presidency article with your anti-gemma o doherty infantile rants.
Grow up
@Dermo Adams: Now now Dermo, if the FG shills want to addfuel to the accusations that there’s a concerted effort to scupper the womans candidacy, we should just let brinster and his ilk keep doing what they’re doing.
@Dermo Adams:
Hilarious!
I barely post anymore.
I make an exception for anti vaxxers as I think they are the lowest of the low.
Dangerous people who feed on ignorance and misery.
And yet the people who are paid to post here every day lose the plot when I make a rare appearance.
Absolutely hilarious!
Dermo my good man – i will continue to expose anti vaxxers for as long as I want to. Annoying you and the other shinner bots here is merely the icing on the cake.
@The Risen:
Shill?
More nonsense from the account that posts here 24/7.
One of us is paid to be here, frequently-banned-The-Risen, and it isn’t me.
@Brinster: you were banned as well, genius.
Pot meet kettle.
@Dermo Adams: ‘ you were banned as well, genius.’
hahahaha
what a clown you are brinster
@The Risen: please, oh wise and well informed one, share with us poor ignorant citizens what’s really going on in our country. Or is it really our country? I hear the Illuminati have taken over.
Never believed Gilligan was behind it and still don’t . Reckon him and his gang were just patsies for others .
@Seosamh Snr Nolan:
The shooters didn’t know who they were working for! The same people who killed martin cahill killed veronica guerin.
Listen to her ted talk. Flinging accusations against everyone with zero evidence to back it up. The conspiracy theorists love it.
A few weeks ago The Journal was full of O Doherty well wishers. People were going to vote for her in their droves. Not many people coming forward to support her. Classic Irish style drop the dead donkey.
@John Nolan: The Gemma “well wishers” usually crowd any article that mentions any of the other potential nominees. Strangely, they are mostly absent this evening when Gemma is front and center.
@John Nolan:
Maybe people are begining to realise that she’s a fruit and but bar.
@Michael Allen: You should focus on getting her a nomination first son.
the hatchet job continues. the other candidates being fawned over on the other atricles on this site. shameful
Gemma must have known she was to face being attacked by people like jimmy guerin. great timing jimmy.
@Sean Conway: She was the one who brought up the murder of Councillor Guerin’s sister just two weeks ago.
Unprompted.
Since then she had refused to clarify comments she made at a public meeting that are on tape.
Them she pulled out of an appearance in front of Fingal CC and Councillor Guerin at the last minute today.
No one to blame but herself
@Brinster:
you’re a bitter twisted fg/state fanboy.
@sixmile: playing the man as usual? Why not refute the facts? Oh, forgot, you can’t.
@sixmile: playing the man? Easiest way when you can’t dispute the facts I suppose….
@sixmile:
Right on cue, there’s my stalker.
You’re developing a weird little obsession with me, sixmile.
Maybe you should take a break from the bitter abuse and go for a nice walk.
@Brinster:
lmao, “bitter abuse” says the king of bile ha ha ha
Jimmy Guerin must have taken a vaccine as a child
@Big Red: because he doesn’t believe in the daft idea of government collusion ?who would ?
Veronica Guerin uncovered a hornets nest of gangsters unbeknown to herself who like Cahill in his Mickey Mouse jocks, continued his criminal life with impunity .
The laugh of this notion is that CAB evolved from her death and if there was any iota of evidence of this nonsense claim it would have come out in the wash when millions of euro were being confiscated over the past 20 years . Heads rolled .Someone in the gang would have blabbed .
Guerin did not know what she was dealing with at the time and the thugs did not get into bed with anyone or were guided by anyone only by their greed
Did she explicitly say there was state involvement in the killing or are political and media opponents twisting what she said to throw a banana skin under her campaign
@Moss Cotter: She explicitly said it. There is a video.
Would take you about 6 seconds to find it on Google.
@Brinster: you seem to be a very bitter individual..you exhibit a hatred of Gemma o Doherty not based on political differences but something more twisted
@Moss Cotter:
Yes Moss – i’m bitter against anti-vaxxers and for good reason.
People die because of their dangerous nonsense.
Has she exposed this story if full,? is she afraid of getting bumped off , if she does? or is she just talking shite to get a load of press?
won’t be voting for that crackpot… Micky D all the way
@ruth mc cann: mickey d is a confused old man, he promised one term but he seems to have forgotten
@ruth mc cann: Labour Party, it’s rid of their ilk we need. Micky D got a taste for the champagne in the Aras and quickly forgot his one term pledge.
Typical Labour party member.
If only Gemma had a bigger spoon to stir the sh%t with, then she’d be, like, famous!
I would like it investigated if it was my sister,this journalist is hated by the establishment for exposing corruption etc in the country.recent revalations about gda in false murder fogures,false charges,false breath tests,false bank accounts.missing phones laptops belonging to 2 x commissioners.smoke is rising and the fire is burning.
Has she exposed this story if full,? is she afraid of getting bumped off , if she does? or is she just talking bs to get a load of press?
I’d say every one should call it a day now, what’s past is past.
She’s a very suitable candidate in the current political climate, she just needs to get rid of the conspiracy stuff.
@Adrian: Beyond the conspiracy stuff – what is there?
No record of public service.
Never stood for election for any other office.
No history of charitable or philanthropic work.
A toxic rumour monger keen to exploit other’s misery to raise her profile with the most ignorant Irish society has to offer.
@Brinster: That’s some slur on people, vile, full of bile, and totally unnecessary.
With such comments coming from you, who would normally be reasonable, but pointed, it makes me think that there is some real palpable fear from the political establishment in the country.
This woman exposes the naked corruption surrounding the top echelons of Irish society. Pushed to the fringes of journalism by DOB, she does valuable work in reminding people of who actually rules, not governs as best she can.
The other plastic paddies offering themselves have nothing but their own gain as the main goal. Gemma O Doherty offers a real alternative, an alternative to the yes men who won’t rock the boat on the wholesale corruption pervading Irish society.
She must be doing something right.
@Dave Doyle:
Dave – we often differ but on this topic I can’t be civil. I’ve replied elsewhere on this thread why you’re absolutely right – I 100% fear her.
I’m part of no establishment though – political or otherwise.
There is an awful lot of bile in my comments and I believe it is fully deserved.
Anti-vaxxers exploit fears and cost lives.
Damn right I fear them and I will absolutely continue to challenge them and point this out.
300 Irish women die from cervical cancer each year. We don’t have a cure – we have something better – a vaccine!
We can stop 70% of this type of cancer from ever happening.
She is threatening that without evidence.
That deserves every bit of my bile – I won’t apologise for that.
@Brinster: Sorry Brinster i don’t buy that at all. What she said was taken out of context. It doesn’t justify the total hysteria surrounding her attempt to get a nomination.
I’m not ignorant of the office of President, but i don’t know everything that surrounds it, what her powers are and aren’t.
But just wondering would her or anyone else being President give them access to documentation not available to ordinary people?? Would she have access to documents surrounding issues she has worked on, that would not be available to her under present circumstances??
She could cause serious trouble for a lot of people if that were the case.
I know my thinking is off on a tangent here. But the hysteria isn’t justified, it’s frantic in the extreme.
Here’s the anti vaxx link.
https://www.facebook.com/RevolutionIreland/posts/2054268731292112
The shooters didn’t know who they were working for! The same people who killed martin cahill killed veronica guerin
I’m not having a go at gamma (can’t afford the legal bills) but can somebody explain to me how she is going to tackle corruption from the aras? This is a serious question. I always believed the president was a ceremonial figure head whose main task was to sign bills as he was instructed and greet foreign diplomats and heads of state. Basically the Irish host.
I genuinely don’t understand how she can fight and expose corruption as president, would she not be more constructive in the dail or highlighting this from another platform.
Is she hoping that she will be exempt from the usual libel laws etc?
Can someone please explain this to me.
@Gasher: *Gemma
The Journal rehashing this story. Just like bores.ie the journal is on its way out.
Just because Jimmy Guerin had a brilliant sister, does not make him a shining star. His opinion is no better and probably worse that the average ‘Joe’, because he is emotionally invested and maybe doesn’t want his ‘acceptance’ of events disturbed. No one can blame him for that, but one can blame him for not keeping an open mind and by his actions, seeking to keep an excellent anti-corruption candidate out of the election. Gemma Doherty is a shining light, similar to Veronica, shining a light into the dark and shady corners that few others have the guts to do. There are also those who like to think there are no dark and shady corners because it suits their ideal. But in the real world there are people and government who are willing to go to great lengths, including murder, to achieve their own agendas. Gemma Doherty seeks to ‘out’ these people, surely that’s a good thing and something we should help, not hinder. I believe Jimmy Guerin’s speech was unwise and possibly politically motivated. To try and hinder a person that is genuinely trying to fight corruption even ‘if’ they make small mistakes along the way, is just plain wrong. Corruption comes in many shapes and areas’ and it is this corruption that is responsible for the homeless, health, education, tax, infrastructure, services etc…. crises. Corruption, and incompetence. How will it be changed if people don’t play their part and support people like Gemma when they come along. Don’t just complain about corruption and then do nothing about it when you get the chance. The presidents office has the power of PR and little else, that may be enough to shine a light.
The independent in the UK hardly thinks its a conspiracy https://www.independent.co.uk/news/police-may-have-tipped-off-guerin-hitman-1360117.html
The burden of proof lies with the person making the extraordinary claims. Time to put up or shut up if she is not just a vile attention seeker using a viscous murder to spread lies and appeal to half witted conspiracy junkies.
Jimmy is a langer
have your say