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Leo Varadkar speaking at today's Joint Committee on Gender Equality.

Government 'open' to including non-binary option in the next census form

The Tánaiste said it is ‘definitely something the government is open to’.

TÁNAISTE LEO VARADKAR says the government is “open” to including a non-binary option in the next census form.

Speaking at today’s Joint Committee on Gender Equality, Green Party TD Neasa Hourigan noted that there were “a number of people who would have liked to identify as non-binary” in the latest census.

Deputy Hourigan noted that she has already raised the issue with Minister for Equality Roderic O’Gorman.

In response, Varadkar said “it is definitely something the government is open to”.

He noted that there were only ‘male’ and ‘female’ options, and said: “I think there should be a third option.”

The Tánaiste added: “I would need the advice of the statisticians and the CSO as to how best to do that, whether it’s other and then you write in, or whether you give a list of options”.

Cormac Halpin is senior statistician with the CSO and speaking prior to this year’s census, he told The Journal: “We’re very conscious that gender identity is a very important area for many people.” 

Speaking to The Explainer podcast, he added: “We are conscious that there is some disappointment that there’s not a question on gender identity on the census.” 

However, he said work on testing questions is taking place in smaller CSO surveys to find the best question formats to capture meaningful data. 

Halpin said this question on gender identity will be put forward as part of the consultation for the next census in 2027. 

Explaining why a question on gender identity wasn’t include in this year’s census, Halpin said: “The recommendation that emerged was because gender identity is such a new area of statistical data collection, that the CSO needed to have a really robust and reliable question on gender identity, and on making sure that it was comprehensible to as many people as possible.”

‘Promotional bias’

The committee discussed the recommendations of the Citizens’ Assembly on gender equality regarding pay and workplace conditions.

Varadkar said the main barrier to women getting into leadership roles and on to company boards is due to promotional bias.

He added that there are fewer women working at senior levels within companies, which he said is not due to lack of opportunities.

He also told the Joint Committee on Gender Equality that barriers faced by women at lower levels are unlikely to be resolved by bringing in mandatory board quotas.

“In terms of the barriers to women getting into leadership positions and getting on to company boards, I think it is probably is down to a degree of promotion bias,” Varadkar said.

“If you look at a lot of organisations, the public service is one example, you’ll see a lot of women up to a certain point and then when you get to the highest tier there are fewer. There are lots of reasons for that but that’s a problem.

“One thing we want to avoid happening is putting in place a set of quotas, when it’s the same people that turn up all the time on the boards.

“You need a stream of people who are getting promoted and I think there is promotional bias in business at the moment for lots of reasons but that needs to change.”

He added: “The progress at board level in Ireland does show what can be achieved when companies focus on making a change.

“It should also be remembered that the primary reasons for the lack of women in leadership positions in business is not simply a lack of opportunity at senior levels in companies, but barriers at the lower levels that are unlikely to be resolved by mandatory board quotas.

“Carefully monitored voluntary targets helped to promote cultural and strategic change at the heart of companies.”

With additional reporting from Press Association 

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:57 PM

    My TV identifies as a microwave. I now don’t need a TV license.

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    Sep 30th 2022, 7:32 AM

    @PJ Beatty: mmmmm….. they’ll be laughing their heads off in 100 years time at this WOKE TRIPE!!!!!

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    Sep 29th 2022, 5:54 PM

    The tanaiste tackling the most relevant issues as usual.

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:33 PM

    Is this country loosing the run of itself. There are far more important things on the agenda than binary or non binary.

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:43 PM

    @BIG BIRD: They copy all this nonsense from America

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:51 PM

    @Celtic Eagle: Like the eagle tho?

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:16 PM

    Jog on

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:23 PM

    This effing nonsense gets more and more ridiculous!!

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:44 PM

    @Richard Ahern: you do indeed

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    Sep 29th 2022, 10:02 PM

    I don’t care if someone identifies as a tractor, whatever keeps them happy I suppose. But when they demand I address them as a tractor and tell me what pronouns I must use too, then we have a problem. I don’t buy into their delusion.

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    Sep 30th 2022, 2:02 AM

    @Boyne Sharky: hahaha. That would explain that MP in the UK and his ‘tractor p*rn!!

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    Sep 30th 2022, 3:36 AM

    @Boyne Sharky: You’re missing the point like a champ but you wouldn’t have the brains to understand, nor anyone should be wasting their time trying yo explain to you why you’re wrong.

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    Sep 30th 2022, 9:48 AM

    @Rui Firmino: do bring your perspective to the table here, Rui.

    Because This topic has been weaponised by left and right which is preventing much real dialogue from taking place. Without perspectives it’ll continue to be unproductive conversation

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    Sep 30th 2022, 6:58 PM

    @Rui Firmino: the point is we shouldn’t buy into delusion, you wouldn’t tell a schizophrenic the radio is talking to him.

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:26 PM

    Lunatics running the asylum I see…!

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:05 PM

    We will have to have non gender bathrooms in businesses next

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:17 PM

    @Mark Dawson: I’m not against at all in respecting people’s right to be who they want, but if I decide to identify as the leg of a table it still doesn’t change the fact that I’m a human male

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:29 PM

    @Mark Dawson: Non binary Chicken Nugget was one of the best I’ve heard. Your in a close 2nd with Table leg..

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    @Mark Dawson: Don’t see why we have separate ones tbh, so easy to just have the ‘Toilets’ rather than girls and bais

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    Sep 29th 2022, 8:49 PM

    @Mark Dawson: Must be a terrible fear for you using an airplane bathroom

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    Sep 29th 2022, 11:48 PM

    @Mark Dawson: love it

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    Sep 30th 2022, 11:02 PM

    @Mark Dawson: lucky you ,Many is the time I wished I was .But in woke speak I am not actually a mother either but a birthing person ‘ .

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    Sep 29th 2022, 7:25 PM

    Nonsense

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    Sep 29th 2022, 6:55 PM

    2 X or X & Y

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    Sep 29th 2022, 8:18 PM

    I’ll identify as an invisible man using invisible ink to fill mine in

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    Sep 30th 2022, 1:49 AM

    @a politicians promise is as good as a lie: somehow, I can’t see you doing that .

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    Sep 29th 2022, 7:43 PM

    Male / Female/ Other ?
    Will that be ok Leo.

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    Sep 30th 2022, 6:59 PM

    @Paul Merriman: that’s still messed up

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    Sep 29th 2022, 9:28 PM

    Will the government include a field simply for ‘Other’ as well as Non-Binary? I feel that would only be fair to those that do not identify with male, female or non-binary, but do have aspirations to be some else….something GREATER. Point being, if you’re going to open the gates, open them wide.
    I thank you.

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    Sep 29th 2022, 10:42 PM

    the alphabet people A2Z…

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    Sep 29th 2022, 8:34 PM

    I honestly don’t get how delicate some people are that they get themselves in a twist over people saying they want to referred to a ‘they’ or ‘she’. So what??? No skin off your nose.

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    Sep 29th 2022, 8:57 PM

    @Dennis Laffey: it’s not about that I fully support anyone who wants to live life as they chose but for purpose of the census its a simple m or f question if you were to identify as a chicken or a superhero or a no human alien should that now be added to the census , be who you want but seriously

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    Sep 29th 2022, 9:06 PM

    @Dennis Laffey: Because its not just that though is it? The gender idelouges start with little things like this then next thing you know were supposed to go along with the ‘fact’ that women can have male genetalia and men can get pregnant. Then the removal of the meaning of the world woman or its use at all with things like chest feeder or bleeders. Compelling people to use a never ending variety of pronouns. By all means, live and let live just don’t try and force the rest of us to go along with it.

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    Sep 29th 2022, 11:34 PM

    @Christopher Byrne: except that hasn’t really happened anywhere has it, despite what rabid conservatives on twitter want people to think.

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    Sep 30th 2022, 7:57 AM

    @Christopher Byrne: you are talking about a vanishingly tiny proportion of the population. It really has no impact on your life and you are mainly upset because it doesn’t fit your idea of how the world should be. Just accept it and move on.

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    Sep 30th 2022, 7:58 AM

    @Mark Dawson: it’s ONE extra option to track ALL various genders that are not pure male or female. Is that unreasonable?

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    Sep 30th 2022, 10:58 PM

    @Dennis Laffey: sex in humans is binary and immutable. There’s no third sex or “other”. Gender Identity should be asked separately; people can document their gender identity there (if they happen to have one).

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    Sep 30th 2022, 5:48 AM

    I ask myself every morning, ” who am i ? Where am i? Where am i going?” I never know a good answer to the first one, i never like the answer to the second and the answer to the third one is always grandiose.

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    Sep 29th 2022, 11:35 PM

    DNA mutation I’m afraid,and of course the beautiful experience of one’s childhood!

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    Sep 30th 2022, 9:36 AM

    Previous comment was removed. I suggested the Census documents Gender Identity separately to Sex, if it decides to do so. All humans have a sex. Some people have a gender identity.

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    Sep 30th 2022, 7:01 PM

    Transgenderism is hands down the craziest religion.

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    Sep 30th 2022, 9:51 AM

    Live and let live.

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