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'Once it's online it's very difficult to get back': The dangers of posting sexual images on the net

We spoke to a Detective Superintendent about the issue.

A STARK WARNING about taking and sharing sexual images has been given by an Irish garda who specialises in sexual crimes and crimes against children.

He says that as the age that children are given mobile phones gets younger and younger, parents need to ensure they talk to their offspring about safety online.

In addition, he says that gardaí investigating such cases have to view disturbing material in order to confirm that an offence has taken place.

Detective Superintendent Declan Daly has worked for 27 years in An Garda Síochána, and been a detective for 22 of them. He is currently a Detective Superintendent in the Garda National Protective Service Bureau, with responsibility for the investigation of sexual crimes and crimes against children. Daly is also responsible for the investigation of online exploitation of children.

On top of all this, Daly is Ireland’s representative on the Violent Crimes Against Children International Taskforce, a specialist group for combating child abuse material on the internet. He spoke this week at the NOTA (National Organisation for the Treatment of Sex Abusers) conference on best practice in combatting online sex offenders.

‘There are online predators’

After his talk, Daly outlined to TheJournal.ie how parents need to talk to their children about keeping safe in an era where images can go viral in a matter of minutes.

“The internet is a great and wonderful too,l and it’s an educational tool when used properly,” says Daly. “But at any given time on the internet, unfortunately there are dangers and there are online predators that are there who are seeking to exploit unaware and vulnerable children online.”

Some of the examples he gives make for disturbing reading. “If you post an image online and you give an image to someone who says they are a 15-year-old boy – that may not be a 15-year-old boy, that could be a 50-year-old man who has a sexual interest in children. You have to be very careful” he says.

Young people may be in a relationship – they may have shared images of each other, and that is a danger then because that relationship could end and the images could be shared by one person. Or we had a situation where a child takes an image of themselves and gives the phone to someone else inadvertently, who goes through and sees the image, and then it’s shared.

He and his colleagues also deal with cases where someone uses a nude or sexual image to blackmail another person. “[They say] ‘I have this image of you, I am going to give this to all of your school if you don’t give me [something].”

There have been reports of young people taking their lives due to such blackmail.

“Internationally that has happened and it has been well-documented cases where children, young people have taken their lives because they have been victim to this crime,” says Daly.

“The hardship and the emotional impact that this has on a child, maybe a 14-year-old child, maybe an image of her naked is sent around school or Facebook – you can imagine the impact that has. And it’s really, really tragic stuff. That’s why in An Garda Siochána we take this type of crime exceptionally seriously.”

So the message is do not post sexual images online – that’s the important message.

He said that he and his colleagues have dealt with “very young” children in relation to such cases. “Children are internet enabled from a very early stage now,” he says. “Not just on the phone, you have online gaming for example.”

He is very clear on sharing sexual photos and how, once they’re online, they’re almost impossible to remove.

“It’s very difficult to get it back and it’s very difficult to get it down,” he said of such images. “I did say humorously at the conference that really this was an effective yardstick – before you post an image online [ask yourself] would I show this image to my mother? If the answer to that question is no, you should really have a conversation with yourself.”

“When they are on the internet they may have tendency to let their guard down,” says Daly of young people’s behaviour online. “Face-to-face they might be more reserved. Once that guard is down they are more open to attack from a predator.”

Starting young

Daly says that children as young as 12 are getting phones for big events like Confirmations, so the conversation around behaviour needs to start young.

When a parent gives a young child of 12 or 13 a phone, it should come with that conversation piece and should come with certain rules.

He says that if a parent saw their child talking to a stranger, they would immediately want to know who they’re talking with – and it should be the same with a phone or the internet.

But he says parents can be “very comfortable giving a child access to the worldwide internet and all that entails” without that chat taking place.

But Daly also understands that parents’ knowledge of the internet and social media can vary, with some lacking knowledge and not having confidence in their advice. He says that any advice they do give can be very simple, alerting the child to dangers, and telling them about appropriate and inappropriate behaviour online.

He also says that parents should want their child to feel it’s OK to come talk to them about any issues they are experiencing – and not to feel worried that they may be punished.

Following the evidence

The bureau Daly works for covers a very broad brief: human trafficking, organised prostitution, adult sexual abuse, child sexual abuse, missing persons, and sex offenders.

How do they go about investigating such behaviour?

“Every interaction on the internet leaves an electronic footprint,” he says, adding that the case may then go to ‘mainstream policing’ and warrant being sent to the DPP, who will decide whether to prosecute.

“Follow the evidence,” says Daly, with an emphasis on keeping the victim protected.

As part of their job, Daly and colleagues have to view some disturbing images to verify that an offence of child sex abuse is taking place, which he says is “obviously difficult”, but they have support in work to help them deal with what they see.

“It’s not a nice part of our work but it’s a necessary part of our work,” he says. “But there are welfare supports there, they are very strong and very gifted and diligent people working in this area.”

He also notes that in terms of law enforcement worldwide, “we are a very small family”, so the gardaí can call on their colleagues in the FBI, Interpol, Homeland Security and others.

This collaboration is essential when the internet is essentially borderless.

His final message? “Use the internet well and use it appropriately, but for parents and children and young people, that awareness that there can be dangers on the internet  should be there, and on no account should they post any explicit images online for any purpose, for any reason to anybody and really that’s a really important safety net right there.”

“Once it’s online it’s very difficult to get it back,” he warns.

In addition, he adds: “You’d never meet somebody or arrange to meet somebody online ever, that is absolutely a no-no. If that happens, if anyone makes an approach online you should go to your parents or go to trusted adult. And all this should be reported to An Garda Siochána, or to Tusla (the child protection agency).”

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    @Michael Cooney: I believe when you say Communism you mean Leninism i.e. a dictatorship of the proletarian hence meaning that they unequivocally are not for a dictatorship. At least attack them on something that makes sense, not your opinion.

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    Nov 14th 2024, 5:24 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy: But lads like Cooney just throw out overused words and cliches. You shouldn’t confuse them with people who know what they’re talking about.

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    Nov 14th 2024, 5:05 PM

    We need a Sinn Fein — People Before Profit coalition to get this country back on track. Rotating taoiseach arrangement between Mary Lou / Richard Boyd Barrett / Paul Murphy. Add in Clare Daly and Mick Wallace if short on numbers

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    Nov 14th 2024, 6:04 PM

    @qffaffaf affrafrfraf: And Sf proposals that EU citizens ” register ” that proposal is even unconditional and really desperate……they are quite literally trying to destroy our country. And don’t forget it took from 1970 to 1997 to have a SF TD take a seat in Dail Eireann under the SF banner, even during the hunger strikes they remained Absolutionist as they are now with there MPs …….

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    @F1rYnpWc: They are asking fellow EU citizens to register too, which is illegal under our constitution…..

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    @F1rYnpWc: How is a state construction company going to solve anything? It’ll just steal workers from private companies and have a much lower output. They should be focusing on policies to attract construction workers here

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    @F1rYnpWc: You know the reason why state construction companies do not exist in other countries? Because it’s a terrible idea.

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    @Alex: China ?

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    @Brian: If we had the CCP enforce targets for a state construction company, it might work

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    @Mick Duvanny: LOL.. maybe.. they get stuff built though ! Probably best sticking to the likes of BAM though and pay them 2.5 billion for a hospital.. it’s working out well for us tbf. We should go to BAM with the apple money and ask them ..what can I get for that.. a la D’Unbelievables sketch of the boy in the shop.. how much for wan of them and two of those..

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    @Brian: The country that now have demolitions over €2 trn every year of property and evicted the owners. And then pumped half of trillion $ equivalent into a company that had a valuation of 500bn and went to the HK stock market with the plan and then brought that market down by 16% in 15mins ….great model.

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    @Paul O’Mahoney: Thanks for that Paul.. your insight, with the economics degree you got off Santa two years ago, is invaluable as always. Your conflating a number of things there..but rather than getting into it with you.. over a comment that was largely intended as a bit of craic.. I’d rather watch the match.

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    @Brian: The irony that these are all the same people bemoaning BAMs children’s hospital, its a good example of why we get nothing done. imo it’s a great idea and maybe the only way we get any infrastructure. Should have been done 30 years ago unfortunately, but then so should everything else.

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    Like over achieving school boys that never achieved nothing, and a hard days work in their life a bunch of non binary actors.

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    @Phillip Smyth: Never achieved anything, not never achieved nothing

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    @Brian D’Arcy: sorry sir, don’t check me please I’ll say it how I like that’s the way it rolls of my tongue sir.

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    @Brian D’Arcy: You are a Coconut, remove a few constants and vowels and your there it’s a 4 letter word starts with C and ends in t

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    Nov 14th 2024, 5:58 PM

    Good God …..48bn in extra spending per their budget proposals add this on top probably 60bn , and with our tax income at 100bn there proposals would add 300bn to the already 230bn national debt….or half a trillion national debt.

    Average interest now is 1.5 % or about 3.5 bn pa, if they enter Government at any level even the tax increases won’t cover the gap in fact it would plunge us into a deeper hole that was created during the 2008 crash….our interest rates on international bond market would soar to Greek levels or Afghanistan…..

    Pure idealogy, and dangerous ones to boot.

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    Nov 15th 2024, 12:47 AM

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    Trust fund clowns

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    Nov 14th 2024, 5:45 PM

    What a surprise, PBP’s manifesto is full of Marxist codswallop. They want to bankrupt our pension system further. They want to further expand Fine Gael’s rent control which caused the housing shortage in the first place. They want abortion up until birth including partial-birth abortions where the baby’s brain is sucked out via a tube. They want to pass the Occupied Territories Bill, which is nothing more than a farcical piece of legislation which rewards acts of terror committed by Hamas. They want to hike up taxes of those who produce the wealth in our society. They want to expand and throw more money at the HSE instead of privatising it and they want to see Ukraine lose the war against their buddies in the Kremlin. The only place this manifesto belongs is in the bin.

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    Was the loud, blaring white noise not coming from Paul Murphy?

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    @Brendan Whyte: A simple man with media coverage for a few hours.

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    Way-hay free money for all!

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    The pay for nothing brigade.

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    @Max: just a bunch of losers

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    Fantasy stuff…

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    The purge is on what do they actually do.

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    The country has yet to wake up. But when they do, it’s already too late

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    Nov 14th 2024, 5:27 PM

    Another Political Establishment attacking Rural Ireland. I don’t see them reducing the amount of flights that are coming into or going out of Dublin Airport . Shannon and Cork are there too but they don’t matter….

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    @Tommy: Boo hoo..the reason why Dublin is what it is is that it’s our Capital City and I say that as a Cork man

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    @Tommy: In all fairness they want to stop the US military using Shannon so that will make that airport unviable

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    Nov 14th 2024, 7:00 PM

    Antisemitism raises its ugly head yet again in Ireland and PBP leading the charge.

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    Nov 14th 2024, 7:03 PM

    @Billy Joe: Yep

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    @Billy Joe: don’t forget their tea towel support for the Hamas subhumans

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    Nov 14th 2024, 8:52 PM

    4 day week without loss of pay…..who’s paying for the unworked day?

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    Nov 14th 2024, 10:21 PM

    @Hunt Ley: nobody! It’s about changing the working week and how you change your productivity!

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    Nov 14th 2024, 5:21 PM

    Enough to make the rich and the borgeoisie panic so they must be onto something

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    Nov 14th 2024, 5:28 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy: You want your job seeker benefits raised isn’t it?

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    Nov 14th 2024, 5:32 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy: ” bourgeois ” that made me laugh. Do you mean those that pay taxes and those taxes used to keep up the ” pour” to a standard?

    There are poor people in Ireland and perhaps the reason they are is help is being diverted to generational theft….

    But let’s blame immigration…

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    Nov 14th 2024, 9:54 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy: deluded lol

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    Nov 14th 2024, 7:00 PM

    They have so many issues including Cows , what cows did we’ll never know,, it reminds of a Joke Billy Connolly had about inner city Glasgow going into the country for the day and a description of Heifers… good times

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    Nov 14th 2024, 7:03 PM

    A clueless bunch of clowns. Basic economics far too difficult for them.

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    Nov 14th 2024, 11:20 PM

    These clowns are waffling on again about leading a left government without FF or FG. Living in cloud cuckoo land.

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    Nov 14th 2024, 8:56 PM

    Vote No1 The Monk!

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    Nov 14th 2024, 9:57 PM

    @Alan Kennedy: hopefully he dilute the shinners vote, Mary looper is in trouble :)

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    Nov 14th 2024, 10:17 PM

    @Paul M Doe: clare daly and the monk!

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    Nov 14th 2024, 6:38 PM

    It’s not like their plans your nuclear fission were stolen. All their proposals are standard fare

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    Nov 14th 2024, 11:20 PM

    These guys are !d!0ts. Never earned money in their life it just appears in the bank every month.

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    Nov 15th 2024, 12:37 AM

    Smell of trust fund hippy off most of them.

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    Nov 15th 2024, 9:59 AM

    @H Woo: Solid reasoning,

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    Nov 15th 2024, 12:19 PM

    Who is their candidate in South Kerry????

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