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Pirates, the CRC, and porn: The week in numbers

Plus: How many Irish people used Swiss euthanasia clinic Dignitas last year?

EVERY WEEK, TheJournal.ie offers a selection of statistics and numerical nuggets to help you digest the week that has just passed.

86 million – The amount of money Irish Water will spend on consultants, contractors and legal advice to establish itself, the Oireachtas heard this week.

1,547,000 – The number of people who watched the Late Late Toy Show in December, making it the most watched programme on Irish television in 2013, according to figures released this week.

742,025 – The amount of money paid to former CRC chair Paul Kiely in a pension retirement package which was found to have come from charity funds.

50,000 – The amount in euros that actress Julie Gayet is seeking from Closer magazine in France in damages over its report that she is having an affair with French president Francois Hollande.

5,000 – The amount in euros awarded to a transgender woman after the Equality Tribunal ruled that she was discriminated against by AIB after the bank repeatedly used her previous name.

264 – The number of attacks by pirates at sea last year – a 40 per cent drop on 2011, when figures peaked.

66 – The number of drivers who have been put off the road for getting more than the total permitted number of penalty points.

60 – The number of years that an Iranian man claims it has been since he has washed himself.

44 – The temperature in Celsius which has been reached during the Australian Open during the week, making conditions extremely difficult for players. And yes, it’s been hot enough to fry eggs.

9 – The number of dogs due to be put down at a Monaghan dog pound but which were saved after their story appeared on TheJournal.ie. Nice work, folks.

8.49 – The average number of pages people from Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown look at when they visit a popular porn website, putting them at the top of the league for Irish porn viewers.

1 – The number of Irish people who used the Swiss euthanasia clinic Dignitas to die last year.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:51 AM

    ….’standing on a chair alone on my balcony’….I skipped the rest ….

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    Mute cholly appleseed
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:24 AM

    Elva needs to start acting her age. She might be intelligent but has a lot of real world growing up to do.

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    Mute David Mac Shite
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:29 AM

    There is little point in writing lengthy or intelligent counterpoints to this kind of piece as they will be removed. The last piece the did like this on Lip Fillers with the author sporting lips like a bee stung anus had half its comments removed and a bitchy final reply to all.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:45 AM

    @cholly: she’s not intelligent.

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    Mute Jho Harris
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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:39 AM

    @Lucille Ball: Sorry to say I stuck with the article but that is something I now regret. She incorrectly that only 2 black people won Grammy awards in the last 20 years which implies that all other 18 must have been white people, non Spanish or other colour people. I have many hundreds of CDs and the colours artist’s skin played nothing in helping my decision. Beyonce of the writer will only applaud us if we give our support to so called ignored black singers, how racism is that?

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    Mute Paul McElligott
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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:48 AM

    It’s not that she’s black it’s that she can’t sing

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    Mute Ben McArthur
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:01 AM

    I too note the privilege of someone worth $250 million.

    No, wait, she meant something else. Never mind.

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    Mute OpenBorders
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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:03 AM

    @Ben McArthur: I would have better luck reading hieroglyphics than the following sentence, really, what does it actually mean, because this is not English!!!;

    ‘I’ve heard a great phrase that you can tell the strong women because they’re the ones helping other women up. I’d take that a step further to note the collective power women have for lifting everyone up.’

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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:16 AM

    “The brief moment when a friend crumbles and cracks as you merely acknowledge that was happened wasn’r fair, wasn’t right, wasn’t okay” – anyone care to finish the sentence? How about “was unforgettable” or “was unbearable”

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:12 AM

    I feel so sorry for the marginalized multimillionaire Beyonce

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:09 AM

    Any black journalists working for the journal? No? Racism!

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:07 AM

    Ha, nice

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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:06 AM

    any Chinese working for the journal?

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    Mute Mark
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:08 AM

    An unjust pay rise….Christ..i find it amusing how often the average normal person seems to live of the advice of the multi millionaire celebrity.

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    Mute Eddiemac
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:29 AM

    Beyoncé is a genius, who else can get 50 people to write her album Lemonade for her and still get all the credit for it!! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemonade_(Beyonc%C3%A9_album) The outright stupidity of some people blinded by their own self righteousness baffles me!!

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    Mute Ronan Sexton
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:26 AM

    I stopped reading after “Lemonade is my favourite album of all time” can anyone give us the general gist of this?

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    Mute Mark Byrne
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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:29 PM

    That’s as far as I got.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 6:48 PM

    Haha me too

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    Mute Em Ni Mhurchu
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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:56 AM

    Absolute drivel

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    Mute Niall Lonergan
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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:58 AM

    If the “check your privilege” cancer makes its way to Ireland I will denounce my left wing views and dedicate my life to the ultra right.

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    Mute Sean O'Connor
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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:04 AM

    @Niall Lonergan: It’s a cancer slowly spreading across the Atlantic. These people eating it up are Americanised beyond belief. It has absolutely no relevance to Ireland.

    We should send them to America via catapult.

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    Mute Shane Kinsella
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:31 AM

    “Beyonce’s boundary breaking work of genius” what planet are these eejets living on?

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    Mute Jason Culligan
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:34 AM

    An alternate universe where Beyonce has talent.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:53 AM

    Someone got paid to write this trash.alarming.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:00 AM

    I cried after reading this……it was that bad. Black quotas for awards too.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:46 AM

    Only way Beyoncé’s elevator music can win

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    Mute Gary
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:23 AM

    I read the comments first. I should have taken the advice of the people commenting but no, I went ahead and made myself read about half of it before I stood on my chair in my back garden and belted out the prodigy’s I’m a fire starter.

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    Mute Emmet O'Keeffe
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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:59 AM

    Lack of privilege?
    Beyonce, who secretly flew to Libya to entertain Muammar Gaddafi’s family getting paid one million dollars for an hour’s performance but was then exposed by Wikileaks and had to issue a public apology.
    That Beyonce? Her lack of privilege?
    OK,

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:05 AM

    I never want to read again after reading that.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:59 AM

    Celebrity culture is being treated like a science these days and what the hell is with the standing on a chair on a balcony??

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    Mute Juan Venegas
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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:40 AM

    Adele makes he own music, she plays the guitar, some of her songs are from other musicians, every musician do that, but Beyonce doesn’t make her own music at all. Adele’s music is hers, Beyonce is someone else with her shaking her arse or exploiting her pregnancies.

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    Mute Fox in the Box
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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:10 PM

    @Juan Venegas:

    Ah now, I don’t think Adele plays any instruments nor does she write her personal love dirges alone

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:20 AM

    Whats everybody hot against the Average straight white male, The struggle is real.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:18 AM

    Ah ffs , edele’s album outsold Beyoncé by multiple times, a man would use that to drive him out , well except for Kanye west who’s a Bitch anyway

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:11 AM

    I’m off to stick rusty needles in my eyes…

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:30 AM

    Elva, I can’t imagine the depths of victimisation you must have felt at the privileged hands of a straight, white male, to end up teetering at the brink of a chair on your balcony in the rain, empathising with Adele’s inner angst. Do you have any selfies of that moment because I sense that some of these trolls doubt that one person could be so profound.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 5:25 PM

    @Coin Pumper: Hahaha!!

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:32 AM

    I’ve studied the ‘lack of privilege’ that the author talks about and, oddly enough, I can fully agree. When you’ve got a group of people who have little access to mental health services, statistically enter university at lower rates, drop out of school at higher rates, receive a higher prison sentencing on average and lose most family court cases while having almost zero affirmative action supports it can be hard to succeed. I am of course referring to straight white men and the fact that it’s almost a taboo to talk about the fact that this group faces issues as well and doesn’t have the ‘privilege’ that Feminists like to hark on about.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:05 PM

    @ Jason you left out gun owning. It’s the gun owning straight white men who need our help. Thankfully it’s top of Trumps agenda.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:43 AM

    Beyoncé: who runs the world? Girls! Just not the girls working in the sweatshops making my ivy park workout gear for a dollar a day. yeah, not them.
    Hard to take any suggestion that Beyoncé has ever been hard done by seriously.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:32 AM

    Jesus, this article makes Donal O’Keeffe seem like Robert Fisk in comparison.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:27 AM

    Beyonce is an absolute fraud. The adoration she receives through sh*te music and little else is mind boggling

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:29 AM

    Go easy on the author. She’s young and impressionable.. All she has are multi-millionaire musicians to guide her on what’s wrong and what’s right in the world. If the Grammy committee is oppressing Beyonce and Rihanna, then we must take note! Maybe the men, women and children living under systemic violence in the Congo or in South Sudan might be able to help?

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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:26 AM

    @Banana Rama: or…..the author is trying to promote their “lifestyle,” website to get more members, some of who will of course upgrade to the paid membership. Maybe not so impressionable after all.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:57 AM

    I heard Adeles next album is called 69.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:27 AM

    Da phuq is this shit??

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:38 AM

    I thought the recent articles of Ms Mary Cate Smith (male aggression/rape culture) & Ms Martha Ryan (lip fillers & self esteem) were the total pits until Ms Elva Carri came along…enough is enough!

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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:21 AM

    @John Flanagan: These articles look to be a bit of shameless self promotion advertising some sort of website or social media group for like minded peoplewith fees chargeable for upgraded membership. They are pure fluff, easily forgotten.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:08 PM

    I am fed up of these self hating white people who demand that I hate myself for not being black.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:26 PM

    You start an article with “I LOVE BEYONCE…” and that’s as far as I get. I’m not in the mood for the ramblings of a half-wit on the brilliance of another half-wit

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    Feb 19th 2017, 9:54 AM

    Beyoncé should put her ar$e away. Both her Adele and the entire room full of nob ends at the grammies are so far removed from reality that they can’t see their ar$e from their elbow (apart from in the endless selfies they post to their tribes of gullible minions who think they genuinely give a sh!t about them) Bruno Mars was the only decent musician on that stage.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:06 AM

    Man of colour,
    When ever i hear this i think of the blue guy in Startrek.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:23 AM

    @Bernard Lebanidze: Woman of colour makes me think of the blue girl in X-Men. She’s a honey……..if it’s still safe to say that?????

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:24 AM

    Gender quotas…Now race quotas…A mediocre world filled with people in positions they were born into as opposed to earning…if ur good enough u should win period. If not, back of the line talentless hack!

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    Feb 19th 2017, 10:34 AM

    I look forward to waking up on a Sunday morning to see what tripe the Journal is serving up.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:55 AM

    Mmm..anyway leo for the leader

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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:19 AM

    Beyondè had a song a while back-’I'm a survivor’……….I’ve often wondered what it was she survived.
    She used to be in group called ‘Destiny’s Child’ which originally had four members and when three began to feel like the magic number, the fourth member got unceremoniously dumped out of the band. That was an all girls band, they took the decision to dump number four out. Not much sign of solidarity among women there.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:13 PM

    This article set fire to my brain

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:23 PM

    That’s a side to you I never knew……never knew.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 1:14 PM

    Yeah Beyonce because rich people are best positioned to lecture everyone else about privilege..Christ

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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:05 AM

    I wonder in Beyonce actual wrote that, or did she get 50 people to write if for her?

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    Feb 19th 2017, 1:44 PM

    The author’s biggest problem is that she takes these baublefests seriously, and even worse, she brings her SJW white self hatred to the party.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 3:22 PM

    ‘Beyonce’s boundary breaking work of genius’?! Hahaha!! The credit for whatever ‘genius’ there is should go to the numerous writers who actually come up with her music. Remember reading an interview with Sia, where she spoke about herself & a producer being invited to a massive house in the Hampton’s for the weekend to write for Beyonce. Turned out that there were a number of writers/producers paired off in different rooms in this house, all challenged with coming up with Beyonce’s ‘genius’. At the end of their weekend’s work she just turned up and chose the best songs. I never fail to be amazed by some people’s rush to put her on a pedestal, as if she’s a more creative & just downright better person than all of us. Whatever about the issue of whether or not there’s race bias at the Grammy’s, I find it hard to feel sorry for somebody who, combined with her husband already has plenty of Grammy’s, as well as shed loads of money, a fantastic lifestyle and other people working really hard to create her music.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:54 PM

    Like Hillary, she thought the white house was hers ., and was fully entitled to get that position, because of who she is . Beyoncé is no different . A multi millionaire ego is a fragile thing . God love them .

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    Feb 19th 2017, 1:08 PM

    I love these articles , purely for the commenting entertainment.I believe though the author wrote this as a result of loosing a bet.Apparently the alternative forfeit of a frontal lobotomy was ruled out due to the fact a scan revealed the absence of a brain.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:21 PM

    The Grammys as I understand, are decided essentially, if unofficially on sales. I think Adele sold more, therefore pumps more cash into the industry and that is what the Grammys reward. No sane person including Beyonce and Adele should take them seriously. If there is racism in the Grammys it should be easy to work out, but let people that care about the Grammys worry about that. This article is drivel by the way.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 12:58 PM

    Author you have been suckered by the most convoluted industry in the world.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 2:35 PM

    Virtue signaling meets race-baiting. Nice.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 3:04 PM

    The Trump train or right wing train rolls on. All the left ever has to do to keep the right going is be condescending identity politicing shites that they are .

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    Feb 19th 2017, 3:49 PM

    @Makenzie Calhoun: straight up!

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    Feb 19th 2017, 5:29 PM

    Is this a Waterford whispers article?

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    Feb 19th 2017, 5:34 PM

    “don’t call me a lovely girl, I’ve sold 20 million records!!!”

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    Feb 19th 2017, 3:47 PM

    Omg what nonsense haha

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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:25 PM

    Well said Elva! I’ve become more and more aware of my white privilege as I get older and travel more and have tried (though not always succeeded) to call out when I’m benefitting from it unjustly. I’ve also had more support from female friends and mentors than male, and I think you’re right that women are more likely to recognise other types of injustice since we’re so used to dealing with misogyny. It’s absolutely on all of us to recognise our position of privilege and use it to try and (1) draw attention to injustice and (2) fix it. Even if you are met with a tidal wave of butthurt white male tears

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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:28 PM

    @Claire Classics: Mega vomit.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:38 PM

    @archer 12: You should take better care of yourself and not be spreading your germs overhere. Clean it up and go to nana

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    Feb 19th 2017, 5:49 PM

    Cringe.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:28 PM

    Vomit.

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    Feb 19th 2017, 8:51 PM

    … Indeed. In all seriousness, these comments are a bit of a garbage fire, aren’t they? Perhaps the journal should take a leaf out of the Irish Times’ book and move to a subscriber-only commenting model. The quality of the comments has increased hugely there now – you actually get real engagement and discussion.
    But then I suppose where would the trolls go. Back to 4chan maybe? Is that still a thing? :D

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    Feb 19th 2017, 11:04 PM

    @Claire Classics:

    There is more than a hint of condescending chauvinism in that observation. Anyone who levels the charge of troll need to be treated with a little disdain but when it is coupled with such haughtiness they should be treated doubly so.

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    Feb 20th 2017, 8:57 AM

    @Claire Classics: You should know that oppressors of free speech like you are not welcome here. You certainly sound like a proper feminazi who think she’s far more intelligent & looks down at the common people like us folks as we’re not your typical Irish Times newspaper reader. You snob!

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    Feb 20th 2017, 10:05 AM

    @Claire Classics:
    Okay you’re looking for real engagement and discussion, well I hope you see this and start a discussion. So using your ‘well said Elva comment’, please point out a time when you benefited from white privilege unjustly and also point out a time when you’ve experienced misogyny.
    PS as far as I’m aware they tried to moderate 4chan but then loads moved to 8chan.

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    Feb 20th 2017, 12:39 AM

    while I’m not a fan of Beyonce & have no interest in the grammy’s I think most people commenting don’t get the meaning of the article.
    it’s about standing up for others who deserve better whether they are man/woman black/white/asian/south American/anything else.
    We as women tend to have to deal with misogyny (not from everyone) from a young age & learn to spot discrimination of all types earlier, so we are trying to use our voices to change this.
    & like it or not celebrities have a better platform in which to achieve real equality for ALL!

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    Feb 20th 2017, 7:15 AM

    Adele’s call out to Beyonce was a great moment but not shocking to me. I see women make acts like this for eachother all the time. But it was great to see it on centre stage where ego is normally dominant. When I first heard the phrase white privilege it kind of made me twitch-I didn’t understand it-then I realised the twitch was discomfort because of course we all know what it means and that it exists, has existed, since white explorers left European shores centuries ago. Beyonce may have an ego but it doesn’t prevent her from collaborating with different artists to create great music and visuals. And if Lemonade doesn’t make you sit up and your jaw drop, well…I don’t have time to explain it to you…

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    Feb 22nd 2017, 9:11 PM

    It’s now Wednesday and I still can’t get over how awful this opinion piece is. I’m still commenting. I actually came back to say it…I’ve never ever done this before.

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