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Water is dropped on the fire in the Hollywood Hills section of Los Angeles on Wednesday Alamy Stock Photo

Why are the LA fires spreading so quickly?

A prolonged dry spell combined with strong winds has created the “perfect conditions” for wildfires to rage.

WILDFIRES ARE RAVAGING Los Angeles, resulting in mass destruction of property and land.

At least five people have died and more than 130,000 people have fled their homes

Fires are not uncommon in California, but Governor Gavin Newsom described the alarming scale and pace of these fires as “unprecedented”.

Over 1,400 firefighters have been deployed to tackle the blazes. 

So, what exactly is causing the fires to spread so quickly? 

A prolonged dry spell combined with strong winds has created the “perfect conditions” for the fires to rage out of control, wildfire scientist Maria Lucia Ferreira Barbosa said. 

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Southern California had two decades of drought followed by two exceptionally wet years.

The region experienced very heavy rainfall in the first half of 2024, due to the El Niño weather system, resulting in excessive vegetation growth. 

But the second half of the year was marked by drought, setting the stage for what scientists call “precipitation whiplash” – essentially turning the area into a tinderbox.

Santa Ana winds

The Santa Ana winds are also playing a large role.

These strong winds blow from inland towards the coast, moving in the opposite direction of the normal onshore flow that carries moist air from the Pacific into the region. Crucially, they cause low humidity.

The extreme lack of humidity in the air causes vegetation — living and dead — to significantly dry out and become susceptible to fire. 

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The winds also carry embers from one area to another, igniting another fire in a new area, Rory Hadden, Professor of Fire Science at the University of Edinburgh, explained.

This can quickly overwhelm firefighters and “make escape challenging, as visibility is reduced,” he added.

Climate change 

While it’s not yet known what started the blazes, “human-caused climate change is intensifying the heat that drives wildfires”, Patrick Gonzalez, a climate change scientist at the University of California, told AFP.

Average temperatures in southern California have increased by up to two degrees Celsius (3.6F) since 1895, he added.  

2024 is set to be named the hottest year on record for both the United States and the world, capping a decade of unprecedented heat. (It was Ireland’s fourth hottest year on record.)

Apostolos Voulgarakis, an atmospheric scientist at Imperial College London, said research shows that the official fire season in California is “widening” as a consequence of climate change.

“The ongoing wildfires in California are unprecedented, in the sense that they are dramatic for this time of the year,”  Voulgarakis told AFP. 

Kristina Dahl, vice president for science at Climate Central, an NGO which researches climate change, said fires spread “when it is hot and dry and windy, and right now all of those conditions are in place in southern California”. 

“The clearest climate signal for those three conditions is with the temperature,” she added.

Contains reporting from © AFP 2025  

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 7:24 AM

    Mícheál Martin is the reigning
    All Ireland Kick the Can down the road champion

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:13 AM

    @Chaotic State: Not needed and move on.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 4:10 PM

    @Chaotic State: The Oslo Accords and the Arab-Israeli Peace Process
    On September 13, 1993, Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Negotiator Mahmoud Abbas signed a Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements, commonly referred to as the “Oslo Accord,” at the White House. Israel accepted the PLO as the representative of the Palestinians, and the PLO renounced terrorism and recognized Israel’s right to exist in peace. Both sides agreed that a Palestinian Authority (PA) would be established and assume governing responsibilities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip over a five-year period. Then, permanent status talks on the issues would be held. But the peace process ran aground, and a new round of Israeli-Palestinian violence began .

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 7:54 PM

    @Chaotic State: FF councillors abstained from the bill last week in Cork city council. Looks like the party have pulled a 180 on it since going into government with FG.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 8:18 AM

    Hard to take a lad who stood up in the dail as leader of this country and denied we bailed out the banks…..

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 5:23 PM

    @Tom Newell: Government did the right thing by the country’s best interest. Anyway back on topic. “Social and economic discrimination caused significant Jewish emigration from Palestine, and Muslim civil wars in the 8th and 9th centuries pushed many Jews out of the country. By the end of the 11th century the Jewish population of Palestine had declined substantially.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 5:56 PM

    @Tom Newell: old news

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    Oct 23rd 2024, 12:32 AM

    @thomas molloy: If you’re going to make comments about history, please cite your sources.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 7:54 AM

    They’ve sat on this bill since December 2020. It is not just about Palestine, it would cover all occupied territories from the west Bank to western Sahara. There is blood on the hands of the Irish government and every excuse they make in relation to the otb and arms embargo just make that blood flow

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:26 AM

    @Ross: we need to focus on our own, left to starve and freeze on the streets like rats we are. No more I say.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:31 AM

    @Lance Taylor: Would Northern Ireland come under this bill, just asking?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:43 AM

    @Brian Hunt: we cannot afford Northern Ireland, let’s focus on Ireland and get the kids off the streets.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:21 AM

    @Ross: article in the Ditch saying the govt promised the ambassador that they would delay it

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 2:11 PM

    @Lance Taylor: sometimes the moral approach is to look after or fight for those that are worse off than ourselves and in my opinion the people of Gaza and Lebanon are those people at the minute. The world looks on and does absolutely nothing, it’s happened all over again, and if people don’t want to speak out l, well I believe they are cowards, diplomacy is fruitless

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 2:15 PM

    @Marie Agnew: no way Marie they poked the hornets nest remember. Kids with no shoes on their feet here take priority thank you.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 2:55 PM

    @Ross: most part of Israel is occupied by muslims unfortunately. They call it Palestine which never existed.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 3:31 PM

    @Lance Taylor: We are one of the richest countries in the world, blame those who constantly into government for it and that’s a fact.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 3:35 PM

    @Alex: The ignorance is dripping off every comment you make. You do realise there are Christian Palestinians? Many of them have been killed by the indiscriminate Israeli attacks

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 7:34 AM

    Not Irelands problem, America and the uk created this all those years ago. Our country has of its own problems enough to do deal with, no need for virtue signaling for the EU.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 7:37 AM

    @Mary Kelly: true. and anyway Israel made sure that everything is destroyed completely so no one will live there except their colons. everyone and Martin knows but a bit more hypocrisy does not shame him either

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 8:02 AM

    @Mary Kelly: Ireland is one of Israel’s biggest European trading partners, no one else is willing to lead on this so us taking responsibility for our role in this genocide is as good a place as any to begin

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 8:24 AM

    @Mary Kelly: Do you not think this is a bit spineless and insular Mary? Yes, we can all wash our hands and look the other way, that’s an option. On the other hand many can see the moral imperative to speak out and stand up for people suffering under systems of oppression.

    Sometimes I think people commenting here aren’t aware of how brutal and unjust the occupation and ‘settlement’ by some of the Israeli’s actually is. You don’t even have to get into the debate over who has rights over the entire territory. We’re talking about humans who have lived in the same place for generations being burnt out of their homes or violently removed. They watch powerlessly as their entire life is stolen so someone else can walk in and live there.

    The way the laws are set up, there’s no room for comeback or reparations. Homes stolen and left to walk the roads. This is unjust, inhumane and cruel beyond belief. It’s not virtue signalling to raise our voices and lend support. It’s simply the right and moral thing to do. Do you realise how many things changed for the better in our own country because certain individuals were willing to stand up and be counted? They were ostracised by the people who dislike anyone who makes a fuss but time has proven them heroes with real backbone. Some things need to be called out. For people suffering, simply knowing you are heard and seen and have support can mean an awful lot. We should have a deep understanding of this ourselves considering our own history.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 8:30 AM

    @Hayagriva: responsibility?…… Secondly, better be very careful with this, one of the biggest might become one of the lesser and let’s hope you are not employed by them. We got enough homeless as is, all this shouting on the streets for people who rather have nothing to do with the western world and it’s customs in reality is mind boggling. Maybe we should keep women home, not allowed to do anything really, like in Iran these days, as well. Next protest march on Saturday? Our friends in Iran?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:21 AM

    @SerotoninWars: Ireland had no hand in the creation of Israel, this was done by other countries who have now wiped their hands. As a country we have welcomed Palestinian refugees, and backed their claims and called out Israel.
    The fact is our own country is in disarray, our health service is a mess, we have the highest level of homelessness ever, there is not enough teachers, there are children with additional needs without school or support services. To say that where you live needs to be prioritised does not lessen the needs of others in other countries. This bill is being used as a distraction from what needs to be done.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:22 AM

    @Mary Kelly: that’s it Mary hid under the covers ,it’s not my problem,kinda pathetic really

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:24 AM

    @Mary Kelly: but sure you will still vote FFFG

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:31 AM

    @Dominic Leleu: it’s not just about Israel.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:10 AM

    @Mary Kelly: I understand your point about the situation not being of our doing. I also understand your frustration at so many things that need addressing in our own country. Personally I don’t think it’s beyond us to try and sort out our own issues while also dedicating a little time to supporting the Palestinians. I don’t think doing one cancels out the other or makes it harder. There’s a lot of politicians, lawyers and civil servants at work, and of course the general public too, to lend our voices to the situation. It feels like something we really understand on a cellular level considering our history and an important thing to raise our heads above the crowd on. There are certain areas in international affairs where we shine as a small country. Regardless, hope all is well Mary :)

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:17 AM

    @Mary Kelly: So?

    Once we do a little bit we can turn our backs on crimes against humanity, on genocide?

    Was that what you were brought up to believe?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 3:23 PM

    @Mary Kelly: if you think there’s any connection between your list and our stance on Israel you’re beyond deluded.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 6:41 PM

    @Mary Kelly: ireland is most definitely not in disarray. Cope your self on with such hyperbolic nonsense talk.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 8:32 AM

    Israel has a right to defend it’s country and Ireland’s leaders should mind their own business.MM and FF have ruined this country for the people who live here. Unless you are an illegal or a Ukrainian you will never afford a house of your own. He would sicken you to the stomach.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 8:42 AM

    @Gerry Lamont: Genocide is not self-defence.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:40 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: it’s not genocide, it’s a war, brutally one-sided as it is. If Hezbollah (Iran) and Hamas didn’t want war and the elimination of Israel, there would be more of a possiblity of peace.
    Islamists only understand force. Reasonability and fairness they consider to be a sign of weakness.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:56 AM

    @offside again: It is genocide: the attempted obliteration of an entire people. That is not war. The civilians being massacred are not combatants in any war.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)00135-1/fulltext

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:04 AM

    @Gerry Lamont: Israel illegally occupies Palestinian land. This has been established under international law.

    Further to this, it is ALSO international law that an occupying force has NO LEGAL right to self-defence.

    So no, you’re wrong. Completely wrong.

    Stop parroting some daft American politicians

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:09 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: they are not trying to obliterate an entire people and you know it. They would have succeeded years ago if that was the case.
    However there are plenty who would obliterate Israel if they could. Maybe you included would like them to disappear too?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:18 AM

    @offside again: The facts of the matter are against you, as you know very well. Israel’s cruel and abusive deployment of its power over the Palestinians is too well established to be unknown to you. ‘They would have succeeded years ago if that was the case’ makes absolutely no sense. They are doing it now!

    From my link, which appeared in the Lancet as long ago as last May and is written by a hospital director:

    Since the attacks by Hamas against Israel on Oct 7, 2023, the Israeli retaliatory strikes, bombings, and strict sieges have almost never stopped. So far, more than 85% of Gaza’s population have been displaced,2 and as of April 13, 2024, at least 33 000 Palestinians have been killed (more than a third of them are children) and 70 000 civilians have been injured. Approximately 7000 Palestinians are reportedly missing—most are likely dead. This massacre has taken place in just 180 days and is still ongoing. Gaza has now been described as a graveyard of children by the UN. According to WHO and Médecins Sans Frontières, hospitals in southern Gaza are at “breaking point” while all the hospitals in northern Gaza have been destroyed and are out of service. There is very limited access to ambulances, electricity, and clean drinking water, and injured patients are being transferred to medical institutes by donkey carts. The UN announced that the number of health-care workers killed by Israeli strikes is the highest in any single conflict in the organisation’s history. Josep Borrell, a High Representative for the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, has described the destruction in Gaza as being proportionally greater than that which Germany experienced in World War 2.8
    A key aspect of this war is the deliberate targeting of civilians by the Israeli military—for example, in just one investigation by Amnesty International, US-made munitions were found to be used by the Israeli military in two deadly, unlawful air strikes on homes containing civilians in Gaza.9 These air strikes were either direct attacks on civilians or civilian objects or indiscriminate attacks and Amnesty International is calling for them to be investigated as war crimes.

    The heinous acts described previously are not the only ones. Two shelter schools, one of them run by the UN, were attacked by the Israeli military: several men were shot with live ammunition at point-blank range; children and other civilians were arrested and stripped of their clothes; and women were arrested and threatened to be raped. Some detainees have been used by the Israeli army as human shields to storm residential homes and ground tunnels and the fate of hundreds of detainees—including men, women, and children—remains unknown.10,11 Even educational and cultural sites in Gaza have not been spared from the Israeli strikes; so far, at least 104 archaeological sites have been badly damaged, including the Jabaliya Byzantine Church that has origins dating back to 444 BCE.

    What is happening in Gaza cannot be fully described in words. This brief Correspondence is a plea to every human being to help stop this genocide right now—we cannot live like this; the world should not be silent about the killing of civilians in the thousands.

    I am employed as the Director of Al-Shifa Hospital.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:20 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Losing a war you started is not genocide – Hamas and Hezbollah are the genocidal ones – but this seems to be too much for some people to comprehend

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:22 AM

    @Mark Eightfourone: You do know that Israel has killed tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians in the past year? Their only crime is to not be Jewish.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:29 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: is that those Israeli women and children murdered and kidnapped you mean? Are they free yet? When is your Israeli march planned, next Saturday? BTW, no idea how many are daily killed in Ukraine do we? That’s next Saturday and every Saturday there after too yes?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:31 AM

    @peter willekens: All murders of civilians are bad, obviously. I accept this. You don’t.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:36 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: a little lesson for you Brendan, Hamas are terrorists, about 80 percent of Palestinian civilians are sympathetic to their cause and hate western civilization, there ya go. Think about it for a while

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:41 AM

    @Joe Mc Dermott: I don’t know how many civilians are sympathetic to Hamas. I doubt that many ‘hate western civilization’, but I imagine that they do hate having bombs dropped on their houses. I do know that ‘thought crime’ is not punishable by death in any civilised society. Did the thousands of dead Palestinian babies think the wrong thing?

    In any case, the IDF is a far worse terrorist organisation than Hamas, based simply on the level of its crimes against civilians. Does this mean that those who sympathise with it don’t deserve to live?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:48 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: then the Allies shouln’t have firebombed German cities. Nor should the Americans have dropped the atomic bomb.
    Israel is surrounded by sworn enemies and wouldn’t last 3 weeks without western support. What do you suggest they do ?
    Hezbollah and Hamas won’t stop until all the jews are gone.
    If you don’t want a war, then don’t start one …

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:52 AM

    @offside again: I suggest that they don’t commit genocide. It’s not that hard.

    Do you believe that Palestinian civilians have a right to life, like the rest of us?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:00 AM

    @Gerry Lamont: Palestine and Lebanon have a right to defend themselves. If we didn’t fight ourselves for our own freedom we would be part of the UK and still a colony.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:04 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: yes they do have a right to life and 2 state solution is the only way, but when Hamas attacked oct7th the parameters changed, civilians have the power there to kick Hamas out if they were not sympathetic to the cause, I’m on the fence about the war but Israel have the right to life too

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:17 AM

    @Joe Mc Dermott: How can ordinary people ‘kick Hamas out’ when they barely have the power to stay alive?

    In any case, Hamas has been deliberately fostered and facilitated by Israel, which saw it as the right kind of enemy.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:23 AM

    @Gerry Lamont: Israel does not even have a right to exist, never mind a right to commit crimes against humanity.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:37 AM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: what a surprise from the Hamas shill. What’s your solution so that Israel ceases to exist ?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:44 AM

    @offside again: If Israel can only exist by committing genocide, then by definition it does not have a right to exist.

    It is the party with almost all the power in the dysfunctional relationship. The onus is on it to try to map a way towards peace and respect for human rights. Unfortunately, it has chosen to abuse its power by oppressing and subjugating the Palestinian people to an extraordinary degree. There is no bright future in this for anybody.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 12:00 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: it’s the only genocide in history where the ‘victims’ have hugely increased their population. Stop lying.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 12:23 PM

    @offside again: So because the populations of the concentration camps increased, the Nazis weren’t committing genocide?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 12:25 PM

    @offside again: Happens all the time.

    Or do you think the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) is still with us?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 12:28 PM

    @offside again: I would suggest you cop on to yourself and realise that those who call themselves Israeli have no rights to the land of the Palestinian.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 12:35 PM

    @offside again: It is the Israeli who started the war.

    It is the Israeli illegal colonist who invaded Palestine, setup terrorist groups and attacked both thevPalestinian people and their government to steal their homeland.

    All else comes from that.

    Those that call themselves Israeli are responsible for *all* the death and destruction.

    Quite simply Israel has no right to exist.

    It had no right to come into existence, and the Israeli – like the Nazi – has shown the World the can never be allowed control oer the lives of others, and do not deserve a country of their own.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 1:21 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: stop will you, you’re embarrasing yourself with your ‘hamas’ version of history. You’re obviously blinded to the point of complete ignorance by your hatred of jews.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 1:23 PM

    @Gerry Lamont: For heavens sakes –
    it’s only a war when both sides have weapons – this is a genocide !! Wake Up would you !

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 5:16 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: for all us pro Israelis here’s hoping they get the job done quickly once and for all and let the new world crisis take over everyone’s senses

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 5:24 PM

    @Gerry Lamont: This is about people illegally stealing homes and land that’s not theirs. The war is disgusting but a different matter.

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    Mute Maire Hicks
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    Oct 22nd 2024, 8:02 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: @BrendanO’Brien, it’s not genocide, the 6 million Jews killed by the nazis, that was genocide.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 6:36 AM

    Unemployed people who refuse to engage with social welfare ­employment services will see their Jobseeker’s Benefit cut by €90 under a plan quietly signed off by the Government after the Budget.

    Bad news for the “says no” brigade

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 7:00 AM

    @Argus Romsworth: Great news

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 8:23 AM

    @Argus Romsworth: Spoiler alert there lad theres always been steps put in place to cut someones welfare if they dont engage with unemployment services. The prohlem is certain folk have always managed to find ways round this, these would be the professional dole lifers who nobody will ever touch, but everyone else has to play by the rules. So hold off with glee about hating some boogeyman group of say no folks……

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:00 AM

    @Argus Romsworth: I’m an era of full employment…. who could really argue against that?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:21 AM

    @Frank Mc Carthy: Anyone with a sense of decency?

    There is no such thing as “full employment” in our economic system.

    The system is engineered so that there is *always* unemployment.

    Otherwise their would be a a shift in the power relationship, with a reduction in the power of the employer.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 3:23 PM

    @Argus Romsworth: “cut” – should be “stopped completely”….

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    Mute Rochelle Hart
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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:51 AM

    Only had 6 years to pass it but don’t worry lads, maybe Palestine will still exist by the time you get around to it. No rush.

    I’m absolutely sure that the Pascal phone call with Israel on his assurances to stifle the bill is all just a coincidence as well.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:34 AM

    @Rochelle Hart: the bill is not compatible with EU law, it cannot be passed.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 12:05 PM

    @Pat Hazzard: So the EU has no problem with other countries breaking international law? Strange thing for a government shill to announce. Anyway, Several eminent legal professionals who are experts in international law have eviscerated that ridiculous legal argument put forward by the disgraced AG. BTW it’s most interesting that you don’t even bother denying our ministers are giving secret assurances to terrorist states…

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 12:38 PM

    @Pat Hazzard: Even if it were not compatible with EU law, and there is no reason to believe this is the case, we are in breach of much other EU legislation anyway.

    And this would be for a Great Good

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 3:39 PM

    @Darth O’Leary: a couple of “experts” hand picked from the pro Palestinian side aren’t proof of anything. Also that story in the Ditch has been widely discredited.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:09 AM

    Does the Grand Canal class as an occupied territory? Asking for a concerned citizen.

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    Mute Gerry Campbell
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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:51 AM

    No surprise there.Why not post a list of products and companies in theese occupied territories and let’s just do this ourselves every household boycott them ,as it is our presses could be full of their stuff ..

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 12:41 PM

    @Gerry Campbell: Would someone be able to create an app that would ID these, and Israeli goods, for us.

    That would be a start at creating such a list.

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    Mute Frances Browne
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    Oct 22nd 2024, 6:40 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: there is already an app called ‘No thanks’ that you can download.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:43 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien
    I agree Brendan they have gone way over the top, war crimes really, they need to be held to account.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:07 AM

    Anyone who remembers The Riordans on RTE will remembers Minnie Brennan . A bit of a busybody was Minnie . Simon Harris and Micheal Martin seem to be the Minnie Brennans of international politics , minding everyone’s business but their own .

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 7:22 AM

    Finally they gonna do something about the 6….., ógh no, another country first.!

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:41 AM

    @Argus Romsworth
    Welfare should have a time limit, and people on disability need to be checked yearly.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:54 AM

    @Dan Murphy: they are.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 2:41 PM

    They can pass legislation overnight when it suits them

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:46 AM

    Settlers = Americans dressing as 18th century Russian peasants and stealing Palestinian land.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:32 AM

    US/Israel dictating Irish foreign policy as usual, the Yanks shout, Coveney says how high.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:18 AM

    Sure what’s another few thousand dead Palestinians while we clown around matter?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:36 AM

    The more attack weapons Iran supplies the wider the demilitarised territories will have to be. It’s a vicious circle.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:27 AM

    @thomas molloy: The actual cause of any problem needs to be identified and tackled.
    Israel is the cause.

    Israel needs to be dissolved and Palestine restored to its people.

    And israelis need to be hauled before The Hague.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 11:46 AM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: dissolve it how ? How would you do it ? A real plan now, not some far-fetched nonsense.
    I’ll wait for your reply.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 5:21 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: why stop there. Oz back to the abbos, America back to the apache. Midnight oil were ahead of their time

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:28 AM

    Frances Black the singer!?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 12:06 PM

    @Andrew Martin Clavin: Yes. She’s a senator now. More humanity in her pinky toe than the entire government

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 5:18 PM

    @Andrew Martin Clavin: yep, known better as Mary’s alky sister

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:46 AM

    Missed an open goal there heading in to election

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 10:04 AM

    This might sound silly, but how do we know if goods are from the occupied territories.
    They might just put an office or room in Tel Aviv. I would not trust them.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 3:26 PM

    @Dan Murphy: you can tell the origin of a product by it’s EAN – or barcode. Prefix 729, or 871 or 841 will tell you… more, here: https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/01/11/has-israel-changed-the-barcode-number-on-its-products-due-to-boycotts

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 4:40 PM

    Mid term recess? What are they, children?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 4:19 PM

    Oh what to do , women and children getting crucified , oh let’s have a conversation about not having a vote

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    Mute Ed Hughes
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    Oct 22nd 2024, 2:17 PM

    2.8 billion in direct trade imports with Israel as of 2022 figures. That’s a significant amount of money heading in that direction. Can seem to find much if any info on articles made in occupied territories, at a glance

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 3:47 PM

    If they had the guts to call this what it really is, i.e the Israel Bill, or the anti-Israel bill, or the west bank bill, I’d probably support it. But no, it with typical Irish mealy mouth obfuscation, it’s called the “occupied territories bill”, we’re told ” “it’ll apply to occupied territories around the world”. Yeah right. Has anyone ever named another territory it might apply to? There’s talk of Western Sahara or some such. Don’t make me laugh. What exactly does Ireland buy from there? Sand?

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 4:23 PM

    @Jipangu: A demilitarized zone (DMZ or DZ) is an area in which treaties or agreements between states, military powers or contending groups forbid military installations, activities, or personnel. A DZ often lies along an established frontier or boundary between two or more military powers or alliances.

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 5:14 PM

    Queers for Palestine lol

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 6:35 PM

    Sinn Fein/IRA party love their international Islamist terrorist buddies like Hamas and Hezbollah,just because they hate the Jewish people so much.

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    Mute Micheál Ó Muimhneacháin
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    Oct 22nd 2024, 7:54 PM

    Intensify the pressure on the genocidal Zionists, break all connections be they economic political social or otherwise

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 5:20 PM

    A golden opportunity to shut down that talking shop and the electorate blew it

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    Oct 22nd 2024, 9:53 PM

    So much for neutrality

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    Oct 23rd 2024, 7:56 AM

    Never mind this nonsense, how about a little focus on the people of Ireland.

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    Oct 23rd 2024, 1:15 AM

    Good old Frances. She should succeed in getting swing doors put on the West Bank just to keep the Israelis away from the alcohol, sorry, the Palestinians!

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    Mute John Reynolds
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    Oct 23rd 2024, 2:11 PM

    A well paid singer and senator has nothing else to do except interfere with another country do what you are paid to our problems please is that to much to ask

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    Mute Ed Brennan
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    Oct 23rd 2024, 1:42 PM

    Arabs want the Jews gone, from the land that they have called home for over 3500 years, and from the world in general.
    The land that was nothing, until Jews made it something.
    Then it’ll be our turn.
    And we have an alcoholic calling for “sanction’s” against the ‘Jues’, with the support of the other ‘gob shiites for gaza’, and the followers of the ‘religionofpeacemearse’.
    Pastor. Martin Niemoller, called it right.

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