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Crosbie: newspapers should get a slice of any new broadcasting charge

Alan Crosbie is chairman of Thomas Crosbie Holdings, owners of 17 newspapers – he also said new media had capacity “to destroy civil society”.

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CHAIRMAN OF THE media group which publishes the Irish Examiner and the Sunday Business Post has said that newspapers should benefit from the introduction of a public service broadcasting levy.

Speaking at a conference on media diversity in Dublin today, Alan Crosbie of Thomas Crosbie Holdings said the Minister for Communications now has an opportunity to acknowledge the contribution made by newspapers to public service broadcasting. In his speech, he also said “new media” had the “capacity to destroy civil society”.

By recognising newspapers within the remits of the proposed public broadcasting levy Pat Rabbitte could “step away from tradition” and reduce the “dangerous dependence on advertising”, according to Crosbie.

Dissemination of information is too important to depend on the vagaries of advertising…We really do actually care what we do in terms of news. And relying on advertising revenue to support what is critical, is frankly irresponsible.”

Many organisations are currently suffering because of a lack of advertising revenue, he continued.

Public service is not something RTÉ owns…It is a public service for any organisation to devote professional people to finding out, fact checking and publishing information in the public good.”

Last month, Rabbitte indicated that he is considering replacing the current television licence with a household broadcasting charge. The levy would be placed on all households regardless if they had a TV set or not.

Crosbie argued that the TV licence fee should be increased so that RTÉ could “become a BBC” but noted that would be a political impossibility at present.

Crosbie has been chairman of TCH since March 2001 after stepping down as chief executive of subsidiary Examiner Publications, which publishes titles including the Irish Examiner, Western People and the Waterford News and Star.

Capacity to destroy civil society

Addressing an audience at the Radisson Blu Hotel in Dublin city earlier today, Crosbie also warned of the “threat to humanity” posed by new media and called for Government regulation in the area.

Citing a “tsunami of unverifiable data” and vulgar abuse, he said that new media has the “capacity to destroy civil society and cause unimaginable suffering”.

He accused governments of “walking away” from their regulatory roles because they are afraid of “appearing to be repressive”.

Information can be reduced to chaos, he warned, as good information requires money.

The key difference between the information the reader of one of those solid Sunday newspapers chews through, and many other sources of information, is that the newspaper stuff has been gathered by trained, professional reporters, filtered by trained, professional editors, considered, in some cases, by lawyers, sub-edited and double-checked before it arrives with the reader.”

The newspaper executive claimed that information coming from newspapers, TV and radio all hold provenance, adding that newspapers should not all be “tarred with the same black brush that [Rupert] Murdoch created”.

However, he did acknowledge that new media delivers views, opinions and different angles on stories. He also said there were “great news websites out there than deliver solid data”.

The question is not if new media can deliver. It does. What’s missing is knowing whether what they deliver is good or bad, sourced or made-up.

The dissemination of information is greater than it has been at any other time and Crosbie claims that if individuals and society wants trustworthy information it should value the people and organisations that produce it.

- additional reporting by Sinead O’Carroll

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Comments (47 Comments)

  • Remind me again; during the property bubble, when the aforementioned newspapers were sucking up huge revenues from vested interests in the property industry, slating programs like “Future Shock” (I believe the Sunday Business Post came out with a 2-page supplement damming the program) and even sacking business editors for the mildest of criticisms of such VIs, where was the only alternative voice found? Oh that’s right, the Internet that the old media now want to regulate.

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  • Oh look, another business staring death in the face due to it’s inability to move with the times wants the government to go against the will of the people to prolong it’s inevitable demise.

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  • Emmm, am I missing something here?, but don’t you have to pay for a newspaper?

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  • Ah jeez, is there nothing government wouldn’t like to tax and regulate? And a parade of individuals like Crosbie waiting at the door looking for their slice of our cash.

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  • If a newspaper cannot fend for itself it should not be in production. The word levy is very commonly used these days I think.There are so many privet stations now that it would be impossible to finance them all from the public purse. They have to look for privet finance and that is the way it should be. Papers should also be the same.

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  • Sounds like a dangerous f*cker

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  • how about….? “Civil society could ‘destroy’ Old media “

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  • Trying to save their control of disinformation. A lot of this censorship crap going around lately, they must be worried #winning

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  • Pat Rabbitte can take a hike. I’m not paying any broadcasting fees.

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  • Our taxes are already funding private interests across the Eurozone, why should we introduce another tax and then siphon the money off to more private interests?!

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  • So let me get this straight, if I start up a newspaper business, Alan Crosbie thinks I should be entitled right away to public money?

    No, No, No, NO!!!

    The newspaper business should be like every other business, it should stand up for itself and make its own money!
    Alan Crosbie is full of crap!

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  • which they in turn should give to coillte, to grow trees to replace all the paper wasted printing these rags

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  • No because the tax fee would go up. It would not be divided from what is there.

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  • Ha ha ‘solid sunday newspapers’….he obviously hasn’t read the sindo. What a load of c**p….talk about scare mongering. What kind of sensationalist language is that to use…he could work as an adviser for vradkar using words like that. hilarious.

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  • TCH has interests in 7 new media websites according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crosbie_Holdings

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  • Ban the printing press, it is a threat to society. Time for the Prince of Desmond, an MacCarthaign Mór to support his local parchment artists.

    Alan Crosbie, Monk, 1441 AD.

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  • Ciaro 06/02/12 #

    Citing a “tsunami of unverifiable data” and vulgar abuse, he said that new media has the “capacity to destroy civil society and cause unimaginable suffering”.

    Ah come on Alan, will you ever go and f**k off :-)
    News is now in the hands of everyone to make and shape, change or die.

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    • “news is now in the hands of everyone to make and shape” – surely what’s being discussed here are the news reporters – they are different to those who make the news. Should news be shaped? I’d prefer if it were reported accurately rather than being ‘shaped’ by anyone.

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  • cheeky bastard..its like he’s saying “you Irish people are not to be trusted…we’ll tell them what to believe”….haha …..its the dying gasp of a dinosaur!

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  • “newspaper stuff has been gathered by trained, professional reporters, filtered by trained, professional editors, considered, in some cases, by lawyers, sub-edited and double-checked before it arrives with the reader.”

    Um… Does that include stories like #Magda the Polish Scrounger from the Indo last week?

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    • And you would like us to take you seriously Mr Crosbie when you have Terri Prone writing for your Newspaper Cop on we are not all langers !!

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    • Thats right :) ….. sub-edited and double-checked before it arrives with the reader.”
      Do you still think Magdas story is an accident?
      I think it is a political game, in order to made up fake enemie of state, instead of real enemie whom we all know…

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    • ‘New media’ allowed people to access the actual Magda story and see through the Indo’s BS. Irish newspapers at the moment seem to just showcase the insular views of a few elitist out-of-touch journalists. They deserve to suffer like everyone else, even more as they supported the farce that occurred in this country over the last decade, don’t see why they should get a mandatory payment from every person when they’re demonizing normal people like Magda.

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  • So would we get the newspaper for free then? Guess not! I don’t read them anyway. I get my information of all those dangerous sources out there! Beware!

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  • Exactly peter RTE needs to be privatised its a mouth piece for dail eireann,listen to this, Rabbite is bringing in this broadcasting charge to catch people who don’t pay the TV licence or as I like to call it an RTE TAX,now evasion of this RTE TAX costs the state 25million Euro per year,isn’t it a coincidence that RTE is losing 25million euro,now for people who don’t have a TV and there are some people who don’t have a TV you will now pay 160euro per year to have a radio or mobile phone or the internet,people in this country will whinge about bin and water charges but when it comes to the TV licence they won’t stand up and say NO enough is enough bit strange isn’t it,PAT RABBITTE AND RTE CAN STICK IT UP THEIR HOLES

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    • The sad part is that the state is according to a report, wasting 700 Million a year!
      From the English Sunday Times yesterday: http://lnw.me/wLIJYb

      QUOTE:
      The state is wasting more than €700m a year on job-creation programmes that have failed to bring the unemployed back into the workforce.

      An internal government report has found that the core strategy employed by Fas, the state training agency, of interviewing unemployed people and referring them for training was not effective in getting them off the dole. The report also raises questions about the €360m-a-year community employment (CE) scheme.

      The government report, supported by independent analysis carried out by the Economic and Social Research Institute (Esri), recommends a reduction in funds spent on CE schemes. It also identified four target groups of unemployed with different training needs that were not being met, and said this had to be addressed by Solas, the organisation replacing Fas.

      The report was written by the central expenditure and evaluation unit of the Department of Public Expenditure, and it found more than half the €1.2 billion national training fund was spent on training courses with a poor record of placing people in employment.

      In 2010, €716m was spent on Youthreach, the Vocational Training Opportunities Scheme, Back to Education and Fas community training — all of which were found to be ineffective. At €362m, the CE schemes accounted for the largest single portion of this budget.

      “Community employment is really not an active labour market policy at all,” said Philip O’Connell, a research professor at the Esri.

      “It does good work, it keeps lots of essential social services alive, but we know it does not help you to get a job. Only some of what Fas does is useful and a lot of what it does isn’t, and when you look at the labour market and the composition of the unemployed, there is not a good fit between what people need and what Fas has to offer them.”

      Sinn Fein has tabled a Dail motion this week to highlight the effect of recent budget cuts on the CE sector.

      Mary Lou McDonald, the party’s deputy leader, said the schemes are not just about jobs, but about providing essential services to communities.

      She said budget cuts would leave many schemes unable to function as they are facing a 66% cut in their training and education grants.

      “Community-based drug rehabilitation, after-schools clubs, community networks, resource centres and the Alzheimer’s Society’s home-support services are all dependent on CE workers,” said McDonald.

      Government sources said a redesign of employment training schemes, to be discussed by cabinet this month, had been influenced by the analysis of the evaluation unit, and the research by O’Connell and his Esri colleagues.

      /Quote
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      RTE losing 25 Million is (although too huge in itself) is small fry to what else is being wasted by our previous and present government!

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    • Ciaro 06/02/12 #

      Or stick it down their burrows

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  • Abolutely not. State funding means state control.

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  • @united people ireland. Small fry 25million? RTE Loses 200million euro a year by just being a public service broadcaster,private sector will not pay Pat Kenny Ryan tubridy Joe Duffy Marian finucane etc 500,000euro per year also they’re programming is appalling and they have the advertisement revenue stream from tesco Dunnes Vodafone mcdonalds etc etc if it doesn’t reform in the public sector it goes straight to the private sector simple I do not need government to bring me state media

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  • Hmm, yes because everything in the newspapers is fully researched and checked out, and definitely not just put through google translate from polish news websites or ripped off twitter feeds and blogs, rewritten and resold as their own content.

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  • Ah yes the ESRI another white elephant like RTE that needs an economic appraisel and Seanad Eireann too!!!

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  • I guess if the papers went under, the vested interests who write in them would lose out. At least with the media like the Journal, people can comment and make what they want of the story.
    The print media should adapt. Why don’t they print comments in their papers the following day on articles the previous day. There is still room for quality papers, but some of the stuff we are being fed is pure crap. Quality writing will always be read.

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    • If the papers went under, along with other sources of primary news gathering, the journal and other aggregators would not have anything to copy from. I noticed there’s no mention of Crosbie’s comments to that effect in the story above.

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  • Just imagine the following getting your tax money.

    Brendan O’Connor, Jody Corcoran, Jerome O’Reilly, Niamh Horan, Barry Egan, Dion Fanning, Constance Harris, Anne Harris, Eoghan Harris, Ronald Quinlan…..

    I think I have just killed the entire debate.

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  • If people want to buy a newspaper (or watch tv) in this day and age, they should be willing to pay for it.

    It is debateable whether tv and radio fulfil public service functions, but newspapers definitely do not. If someone wants to buy a newspaper, let them. Don’t force the taxpayer to subvent your newspaper.

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  • Well I’m delighted to hear that you’re standing over it, especially now that you’ve aknowledged that it wasn’t *his* newspaper he wants the licence fee to pay for, which is pretty much what your story implies. I don’t even know I’m defending him, I won’t get paid for it and you probably won’t take this story down. But this conference was about media diversity, but now it’s turned into media circus about one man, and nobody is talking about what he was actually saying, that we need to reward good journalism!

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    • Hi Darren,

      I was the contributing reporter to the story and in no way was the intention to imply that he referred to only his own group when suggesting that newspapers should benefit from any new broadcasting fee.

      From the second para of the article: Speaking at a conference on media diversity in Dublin today, Alan Crosbie of Thomas Crosbie Holdings said the Minister for Communications now has an opportunity to acknowledge the contribution made by newspapers to public service broadcasting.

      This was taken directly from the speech – which is linked to (in full) near the top of the article – so we are talking about what he actually said.

      Thanks,
      Sinead

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  • I think the mainstream media have had their time – they failed us all here in Ireland. An independent view is what people want more and more these days. RTE doesn’t do Ireland any service. Many publications the same. Profiting from little but their own spin on things. Time for a new dawn.

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  • Christine I’m here at the conference and you took the comments all out of proportion, and in doing so completely went against the spirit of the conference. Media diversity, what about it eh?

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  • Gavan: I know that, and you’re not. He isn’t misquoted in any way and I don’t agree with what he said, but your Deputy Editor (who’s speaking right now) took his comments all out of proportion. What he said was that news agencies who provide good quality news should be supported. Separately he said that RTE would need significant increases in the licence fee so that it could become truly objective, much like the BBC, and get rid of the scourge of advertising revenue. Now if you reported that, readers could take it any way they wanted. But you’ve completely misrepresented Mr. Crosbie – and everyone should know.

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    • Sorry if you feel he’s been misrepresented – there’s a prominent link in the text of the story to his full comments where readers can see them all in context, including the following:

      Therefore, there’s an opportunity for Pat Rabbitte to step away from tradition and if he’s going to have a tax to provide public service broadcasting, widen it so it acknowledges the contribution to public service of newspapers too.

      It’s an inherent part of an editorial process that a writer has to make a judgement call about which parts of a speech are ‘newsworthy’. Obviously I can’t speak for Christine but I’m sure the story wouldn’t have been published if she and Sinead weren’t prepared to stand over it.

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    • Ciaro 06/02/12 #

      Bullshit Darren. The licence fee ensures that rte remain in the control of their government paymasters. Any real criticism would jeopardise this source if revenue.

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  • Considering they are losing money on The Sunday Business Post ie hitch is not surprising as they have the two most pessimistic writers in Browne and McWilliams its not a wonder they look to be subsidised. Why don’t they ask Mc Williams how to beat the loss and take his advice close the paper If they can’t make it pay . Get rid of the columnists that spread doom and gloom eternally and get a positive outlook for a change .

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