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Group of Magdalene survivors to meet Taoiseach tomorrow

A group of women represented by the Magdalene Survivors Together group will meet with Enda Kenny on Monday afternoon.

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A GROUP OF women from the Magdalene Survivors Together group are to meet with the Taoiseach Enda Kenny on Monday afternoon, it has been announced this evening.

Steven O’ Riordan, director of Magdalene Survivors Together, said that the meeting is a hugely important step which will they hope “will ultimately lead to an official apology”.

A group of five women from the Magdalene Survivors Together group will meet with Kenny at 2pm on Monday.

Magdalene Survivors Together said it was “disappointed” that the advocacy group Justice for Magdalenes, which also represents survivors of the Madgalene Laundries, had chosen not to participate.

“While other groups may not be on board for this, it is clear in the mind of all the survivors that I represent that they wish to meet Enda. Nobody has been bullied or rushed in to this. In fact the survivors believe its fundamental in achieving their ultimate goal for a state apology,” he said.

A spokesperson for Justice for Madgalenes told TheJournal.ie this evening that they had simply sought clarification on the purpose of the meeting on behalf of the women they represent. “We represent women who are very private and elderly – they live all across the country. Many can’t come on short notice,” she explained.

The spokesperson said the group had requested clarification on the nature of the meeting last but had not yet received any.

The decision to decline the meeting was “not a snub”, she but – but added that  the survivors represented by the organisation were not interested in empty gestures.

“If the meeting was along the lines of a gesture, they’re not interested. they want an apology, they want their wages repaid.”

Read: Howlin says State ‘must acknowledge Magdalenes and make amends’

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  • Time to give a public apology I think, they have suffered enough.

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  • HI SHANTI OM SORRY ABOUT THE SHOUTING,BUT MY MACHINE IS AS OLD AS MYSELF,AND CAPS IS BROKE .

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  • Fair point Margaret but please stop shouting

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  • It’s time for an Taoiseach Enda Kenny to give a public apology to all who suffered under the Magdalene Laundry system. He may have received legal advice not to apologise. Such legal advice is unacceptable in today’s society. Enda do the country a favour and give a public apology on behalf of past Governments. Incidentally does any know what party was in power at the time?

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    • @ Dermot, as you well know every party governed at some stage or other, so they’re all to blame along with parents of those times. Everyone knew what was going on. Why else would parents use the threat of sending their kids there to frighten them. The so called “Real Taoiseach” Jack Lynch was in charge as well as being minister for education in the 1950’s when unspeakable acts were carried out on innocent children. We then go away and honour him by naming a tunnel after him. This honour should be revoked immediately.

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    • As we all know if it is not in Enda’s speech he will not say it so he went of out then to ask what should he do and his weekend has been spent rehearsing what he will say tomorrow at the meeting

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    • Well said Pat.
      A big fuss in the media about taking away Lance Armstrong accolades, awards and medals.
      Yet nothing done about governments and TDs (some that are still in office) that basically harbored and protected and that still harbor and protect, pedophiles, people traffickers and slave drivers?

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  • One thing you can’t call Enda Kenny and most people understandably have a lot to call him “Is a coward” this should have been done many many years ago or sorry I stand corrected,

    This shouldn’t of happened at all .

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    • @ Enda Kenny
      Taking into account the fact that the last Magdalane Laundry closed on 25 September 1996 and the fact that you were in politics since 1975.
      Are you going to explain to these unfortunate victims why you have said (or done) basically nothing about this slavery until now?

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    • GatheringYourMoney
      Dear Mr Money
      How can you be so ignorant? The Taoiseach commissioned the Report that has just been published bye the former Presidents husband.

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    • You might tell me Mr Rogers.
      Just how long after the these travesties, was this (far) too little (far) too late report, commissioned?
      What went on in these “Laundries” was common public knowledge for decades.
      Did Kenny and his Leinster House Brethren really need to wait decades for a report to be commissioned, before they could shut these slave houses down???
      They proclaimed to be our “leaders and protectors” as they politically harbored and protected slave drivers, human traffickers, perverts and pedophiles.
      And they are still at it today.

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  • Margaret is right! Read the report and Listen to the people who were there.

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  • I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REPORT DELIVERED TO EVERY HOUSE IN THE COUNTRY ,SO WE CAN ALL READ IT ,AND NOT DEPEND ON HEARING LITTLE BIT’S AND PIECE’S /

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    • Or at least put online, cost to print 1000 pages and post to every address is a bit much and before you say not everyone is online make it available in all public library’s and hey why not on display in the entrance of every church where the blame should lie.

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    • http://www.idcmagdalen.ie/
      Here you go Margaret. The journal posted a link to it last Tuesday, perhaps you missed it. Anyone can read it, not just in Ireland either.

      Also – and please accept that I do not mean to be rude when I say this, but when you type in caps lock it’s considered shouting, perhaps you meant to shout – but for some people comments in all caps are off putting.

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  • wonder does enda burton o reilly and gilmore and a few others of government or hierarchials or those in the hierarchials wondering and thinking its just a small storm in a teacup and hoping it will blow over or wait for the next scandal.

    or are they do an ingratiating pr job real quick and paying 15k for a speech to rectify a proper apology .. or is it straight from the heart or an attempt to fail on the act of decency by state to acknowledge those brave women and families affected and their true courage and bravery to still be here… despite the sorrow they must of gone through silently.. huh?

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  • CLARIFY. THE REP SAID ILL CALL THE POLICE ON YOU. NOT I CALLING THEM AND THAT WAS FOR ARGUING ABOUT BEGGERS OUTSIDE THE CHURCH AND the priests sending their reps out telling them to bugger off or theyll call the cops .. got thrown out too. is that christian.. cos not all are on the scrounge……….

    calling cops on women for complaining ……. sounds familiar . is this 2013… or is anything changed or are we all meant to be seen and not heard. diplomatically hence we get arrested for TYPING OR ASKING what in the world sort of teaching do they profess to do if they throw out out or threaten you for protests.. even if speaking loudly and clearly and resiliant OR NOT FEARING men on pulpits threatening women with police or for not paying for candles. not the first time ive been thrown out and hopefully not the last.. with most respect to the magdalena women and i think not all statements were acounted for in the report.. because women still had children even while in the places meant to be safe for them or children forcibly taken from them against their will or with scorn or derision placed on those women.. who must be apologised to with no worry of public relations or fear of being sued.. dignity.. for those women not politicians faffing on whats the legal issue of decency not worrying about resolution or reprisals for the monetary aspects the government seem to flap about..

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  • they still throw women out for complaining. i got booted out from a church yesterday for refusing to pay for lighting candles and debating with another type who says get out and previously said ill call the police re your treatment of single mothers and women.. shown the door gladly but i knew where it was thankfully not blind or submissive or on my knees.. guess i must be excommunicated .. some things seem to be worth SHOUTING ABOUT..

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  • It’s incredible that after all this time it takes another meeting to get the point across to government: The survivors want and deserve a full apology from the State. What else do you need to know?

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  • CAN WE NOT WAIT UNTILL THE REPORT IS PUBLISHED AND READ BY ALL ,NOT RUSH TO JUDGMENT .

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    • The report has been published, it’s only 1000 pages, and Kenny was able to provide statistics from it to deflect from a full apology when asked by Mary Lou McDonald. Please explain what you mean by this statement.

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    • Hi Margaret,
      I respect the point you make about waiting for the report, but… it’s Dublins worst kept secret that what went on there was embarrassing, frightening, disgusting and at this stage not surprising.

      on top of this, they have cooked the books.

      They want to turn a corner, they say there is change…

      they are full of sh1t

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    • NO NO NO!!!!!

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    • NO NO NO!!! We cannot wait. The truth has to be told!!! These women suffered enough.

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    • Kenny did not apologise on behalf of the state for the abuse that the Madeline Laundries inflicted on the children in their care

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    • Margaret, I disagree. There has been no rush to judgement. Even though qualified in places and some odd conclusions, no clear findings of physical abusers, the report makes for grim reading.

      Although I am male, it seems offensive and horrendous that girls and women were singled out for this treatment.

      Our values must be very badly off for such cruelty to occur.

      It’s just a theory, a hypothesis if you will, but I wonder if the particular expression of Roman Catholicism in Ireland may have been a contributory factory to these horrors. There seems to be some kind of moral blindness at work, some sort of censorious superiority which permits in phumane and profoundly uncharitable conduct towards the vulnerable and the under privileged.

      I was not personally aware of the conditions in the laundries but it is time for us all to do some serious soul searching why such conditions were permitted to continue. It does seem that whenever the State and the Roman Catholic Church combine, the results are less than wholly satisfactory. Certainly, this teaches us that we need to separate religion from public and political life.

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  • He will apologise.

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