James Daly
they still wont get it from me .

Thanks for that!

Unfortunately not, nor the extortionate tax we pay on fuel in this country.

Only the very wealthy …. Tony O’ and they paid off their own back in !993…. I wanted to waive my obligation to pay through the PAYE , but they would not allow it . Mind you if my memory is correct . the Rev Comm took in more than they expected at the time !

@ Tony.
Take your pick.
http://wiki.infoshop.org/Tax_resistance#History_of_tax_resistance

Ailís – That’s a very fair point. For my part, the only reason I’ve stopped giving a number on those who haven’t paid is because there’s so much confusion over exactly how MANY households are eligible. No single figure is reliable so I’m not going to just choose one over the other.

That does make good sense Gavan, thanks for your reply. I do find it difficult to discern just how many homeowners are eligible for the charge.

Are you even eligible to pay in the first place Jimbo?

ROFL !!

Daily Mail – another daily rag that reports half truths.

Looks like your fighting a losing battle Réada but sure at least you seem to be enjoying yourself and getting out and about at least.

Hahaa @David oh there’s always the bored one trying to stir the pot! :D I get a giggle out of it though!

Réada you guys are doing a great job…keep it up! :)

david,
yer talkin thru yer hole.
I know u’d love to see everyone shellin out their 100 anglos,
but it just ain’t gonna happen.
I am amazed that the figure on non registration is so high.
I thought maybe 20% at a push would be the figure.
But this result is phenomenal.

Don’t forget the fiscal treaty folks! Save some ammo. The big one’s just around the corner an’ we sure as hell gotta winnit or we’re royally f**ked! For all time.

don’t worry johnny me boy!
The powder is being kept dry for that one

No . David we are not fighting a losing battle . I will be in Galway tomorrow too. stand together and this charge will be abolished .

John , Joseph , Reada et al
We are only rev ving up ! .Have not reached full throttle by no means :) Non ! Níl! Nein! NO :)

Ha Ha Susie! You show those oxyMORANS what No, Nil, Nein & Non really means!

Keep up the good work everyone – and don’t forget we still have to work on the default and exit from the Euro.

Good man joe! Stiff upper lip an’ all of that ol’ chap. You keep them troops in order now an’ just an odd swig here an’ there…When no one’s lookin’ of course…

I bare orders from the captain get you ready quick and soon John
The gath’rin is to be
At the old spot by the river quite well known to you and me!

Nothing less than unconditional surrender by the Gubbermint will be accepted :-)

Lmao Joseph. I was thinking more When all beside a vigil keep… ;)

……Sing, Oh! Let man learn liberty,
From the crashing wind and lashing sea….

….. They died their land to save,
From Aughrim’s slopes to Shannon’s waves…..

……We’ll watch till death for Erin’s sake ! :)

http://www.wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/11/awake.htm

Reada good luck tomorrow in Galway.

The Ladies Of Isle (by John J Alphonsis Murphy. Snr)

Ya can talk about Cuchullin
Ya can talk about the Dail
Pearse, Connelly, Larkin
Ya can talk about ‘em all
But when the women of old Ireland
Set to showin’ ‘em how it’s done
Heads will be a rollin’ and the
Government’s day is Done!

Good on Yiz!

John Murphy
Ye better believe it :)

Reada, maybe you are fighting a losing battle on the household tax, but the war is about the inflicting of unnecessary austerity on the country. We must fight on.
My mantra for tonight is Maintain the Rage. Most governments count on protests like this losing their steam by election time, sure they’ll probably come up with another bullshit 5 point plan by then
Maintain the rage!

John J Alphonsis Murphy Snr! Outstanding. I knew if I gave you that ticking off the other day you’d be able to come up with something superior. And superior it is. A+

Top of the Class ;)

Now Daffy. If you could come up with a melody, I’ll sing it on the bus tomorrow!
:D

They have already said that no one will be jailed ! but don’t buckle . dont reg, dont pay dont panic , and a new one Maintain the Rage !

your right, both

Your left!

MY right!

@ The Journal

any particular reason why you used a photo that made it look like there was only 50 people (I’m using the media way of counting people!) at the protest?? and how come you havent dont a write up about that woman FG deligate that gave us all the 2 finger salute. AMAZES ME that the media have not opened their mouth about!

that should read – “done a write up”

@Roderic – Thanks for your comment. As the person who chose the image I would respectfully suggest you’re perhaps reading too much into it; we did a gallery on the day of the protest which (I think) would appropriately capture the number of people that were there. I might suggest that if we were trying to further some sort of conspiracy and downplay the size of the protest, we could simply have used another picture of Phil Hogan inspecting the bags of unprocessed applications.

As regards the the “woman FG delegate”, we’re aware of the picture circulating but we can’t identify the person who took the picture, and therefore couldn’t contact them for their clearance to run it. As an aside, we would be reluctant (as I’m sure any professional media outlet would) to portray the actions of a lone person to be a true portrayal of Fine Gael as a whole.

Oh, also forgot to mention – the “media way” of counting people is to take the Garda estimate, and the Garda suggested there were 5,000 people present (RTÉ had originally suggested 4,000 but revised it upwards in light of the Garda figure).

@Gavan,
Would you not agree that the FG/LAB coalition cabinet are not only giving us the two fingers they are doing so whilst riding us bareback singing ‘Yankee doodle doodle dandy’ as sang by James Cagney ?

Is this women that gave the 2 finger salute confirmed as a FG delegate?

Gavan
I respect the fact that you took your numbers from the Gardai but as one of the many thousands of people ther on the day I can tell you there was at least double that amount there. At least. It is a shame that this country is going the way it is going . However I remember turtning left onto the Quays from O’Connell St seeing a sea of people in front all the way to Liberty Hall , and looking back behind us and seeing a similar sight going back at least as far as the Parnell Monument . I will defy anyone to tell me I am wrong :) .

I believe she is a delegate but I do not want to put it up here as they will remove my post …. Anyway I believe she is from Clare .

Sorry Gavan but

while the Journal did post a lot of photos taken at the protest I just dont understand why you chose the one you have as it does not adequately reflect the the thousands of people who protested that day. I find your choice of photo very misleading and slightly disappointing.

I suppose its the death and taxes thing
No getting away with either of them.
I really thought the protest wouldn’t gain the legs it did, I’m glad it did though.
I wish the government gave a shit but I don’t think they care about the protest, they just think those naughty stupid peasants they think we are need to be whipped info line.
I hope the protesters can maintain the rage until next election~ especially because the government is counting on you not to

Hi Susie
I have argued with you before on this, but got to admit lve come around to your cause.
Maintain The Rage!

@ Dave Harris
I will never pay this Charge . I am not easily bullied and I have at times felt the pressure , but then i just decided no way . enough is enough , and I joined the Campaign against the HHC . I met some lovely unlikely protestors , like myself, who at the end of the day are angry . Angry at the way we all have been treated , by this government , by the last government , by the bankers . This anger I feel has been smouldering a long time for a lot of reasons , Health care, education, corrupt politicians and their pensions, Breach in pay caps for advisers , the state picking up the tab for crooked politicians, Burst and leaky water pipes , Priory hall ( altho I am not affected) the problem with pyrite, SNAs , Promissary notes , Unsecured bond holders , Budget revelations to the bundesstaag before we were told the budget and the austerity treaty ,unemployment and emmigration. Feelfree to add your gripe :) So I am pretty angry. Join the campaign if tou have not already done so .

Dave
I came around to it myself from where you were too. And when you come round to it , It is like as if every thing else falls into place …. Thanks Dave for your honesty .

Martin
We will be standing together in Galway tomorrow…

Martin only 50% of households registered (that is of course if you believe the propaganda). A percentage of those that have registered did so knowing that they are entitled to waivers. Another percentage is made up of those (mainly pensioners) who were frightened into paying and people who are self employed who will not recieve their tax clearance cert at the end of the year.
IMO I would say that only 25% of households registered willingly because they foolishly believe they are doing whats right for the country.

Seriously? People are so stupid? Just because they dont agree with you? That’s a disgraceful thing to say. You make your decision. Others make theirs. Neither choice is stupid, just a difference of opinion.

I didnt use the word “stupid”!

Eoin Tighe
I do not think so , it is not a difference of opinion . No one is stupid , but some are being bullied and mislead. Please , if you think it is funny , then do not add to peoples fears. I will never pay this charge , ever. It means more than just €100. It is way more than that.

You are all living in a fools paradise. When are you going to realise the party is over and it’s time to come back to earth. Taxes will follow you to the grave and just get bigger by the month with penalties and interest. In the end you will pay a huge amount more. You won’t come on here and announce it but you will pay.

Nope Pearse

I certainly wont pay, nor will I pay water charges and I will vote NO in the referendum. Just aswell we didnt have your attitude the last time they tried to introduce water charges here. We fought a long hard battle and won just like we WILL win this time too. If you want to lay down and be a doormat go ahead.

Pearse Kelly
Do you hear what you just wrote …. Taxes will follow you to the grave ….
I will be dead ! Duh! What can they do to me when I am dead ? My estate what is left of it will take care of it , End of !

…said by the man known as John!!!
Why didn’t you go the whole hog Mr. Doe ;)

John
People in campsites do not pay the HHC . Duh ! You are just so hillarious , not . But let me ask yo .Why so bitter? What has happened to you that you are so sad ? I will keep you in my thoughts :) I hope you will find peace .

Your country been ruined by incompetent politicians, bankers and property developers (otherwise known as “the troika”)? Your home been repossessed? Your pension raided? All to fund the gold pensions of a privileged few? Your leaders sold you out? You feel like selling yourself out? For just 100 euros you too can be a sheep. See John for details.

Do I detect a note of sarcasm there john ? (by the way, its not the crusties from the occupy movement who are running this protest, it’s the ordinary joe soaps who are sick of being screwed by that poor excuse for a government)

Who watches the watchmen?

Usually if I see a headline that doesn’t interest me I just don’t read the article. I am interested in this topic though and am glad The Journal continues to report on it.

James every time this website publishes an item that is putting pressure on those that have paid I get bloody sick. I thought this was going to be a far more balanced news site instead it is doing Ireland’s Conservative Governments Dirty work for it. Why not put pressure on the Government to abandon the Tax ?

@Brian – It’s not at all our intention to ‘put pressure’ on anyone who has, or hasn’t, paid this charge. This only got covered today because the total number had crossed 900,000, which is half of the 1.8million household figure usually put forward by its opponents.

I’m glad that the journal is continuing the sheep count. I want to know if the country has a future.

I wonder what percentage of those unprocessed applications are spoofs?

Ah but it’s such fun with the bantering abs arguing about the whole thing.
Oh yeah, maintain the Rage!

Dave

While it wouldnt surprise me to learn that Phill the black sacks Hogan works for the CIA, I think you will find the only “TRUE” freedom fighters in Afghanistan are the women who are denied their basic human rights.

Hmmmmmmm are the red thumbs because of what I said about Hogan or for the fact that I pointed out that the women in Afghanistan are denied their basic human rights.

You must be a member of the “I’m allright Jack” party so – shame on you for laughing at those that are liable to pay.

But are you liable to register Grim? They want you to register ! It is your details they want …