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Reducing waiting lists has increased spending? Makes sense to me..

@ Bill Masterson
To you it probably would make sense . ! To the rest of us we see A+E’s closed down, Wards closed down, Ambulance services cut, Nursing homes close, homecare assistance decimated, ………………….The point being ,none of it makes sense. If lists are shorter, and all +more services to patients are cut ,then why the large deficit ?
Where is the money ?

Increased productivity = increased costs. If waiting lists are down, I’m presuming it means more procedures are being carried out, more theatre time, more nurses required, more doctors required, more support services required. None of these are free. The HSE is not designed to be productive or value for money, quite the opposite. The more procedures carried, more the cost.

@ Michael
Tell me what happy little planet are you living on ? Dream on , because you are not living in Ireland if you believe what you are writing …. All the job cuts , retirements, mauritorium on recruitments …. But you know all of this already and are only on here spouting sh1t for your paymasters be they FG /Lab. Now just go away and stop trying to cause trouble , because mark my words ,there will be trouble and there will be no turning back from it ! Are all of you mouthpieces proud of yourselves ? Seriously ! Because you are not coming up with anything original ,but you are managing to upset decent intelligent good living people with your snide sneering remarks about how wonderful this administration is. But , for myself I know what is what and I have a busy afternoon ahead of me as I am hosting a party for my son with his friends ,all innocent ten year olds who already know not to ask for anything much ,because we are all feeling the pinch ,thanks to Kenny, Reilly, Burton, Howlin, Noonan, Shatter, et al. . .

@eilleen ‘where is the money?’ Have a look for the article yesterday about 100+ bankers gettin over 100k and head of Aib getting 900k despite the government limiting to only 500k

@Jay
i know that Jay , but there are people like Bill and Michael here who will not see this. They think that the Health service is just doing so well that the money is being spent on our health and well being …. That the lists are being shortened due to the HSE’S ability to be on top of their game and before any one gets cross with me , please know that I have the utmost of respect for the frontline staff whose hands are tied by the managers of these places who walk around with clipboards all day. How can the lists become shortened ? Only a few weeks ago people were on waiting lists ’til 2014 . It is all BS.

Oh now wait a minute, I never said the health service was doing well, neither did Bill. We offered an answer to your question – if the waiting lists are going down, the cost is going up, one can only presume that the two are related. IE, more patients are being seen.
In relation to your statement RE A&E’s closing down, etc., all of the closed down A&E units closed down were replaced with Minor Injury Units – something akin to a GP surgery, with the added benefit of being able to get X-rays, bloods etc. done while you wait. The money being saved is being used to provide actually needed services, like these units.
The HSE runs on a budget, that budget has to last whether 100 people expect to be treated, or 100,00 people expect to be treated. That is wrong, because if you treat 100 people, it is obviously going to cost less than treating 100,000.

Michael
That is not what you said in your original reply….
But go on . you will not see what is patently obvious to every one else . And as for closing A+E’s , you are obviously not living in Roscommon or Tipperary where they are left with out proper health services due to cut backs. It is not just about emergency cover either , it is about return trips to outpatient depts on an ongoing basis too. But as long as you are ok then nothing else matters….

I think you might be over reacting slightly. Health service never been as bad? Really? Our increased life expectancy, decreased child mortality, increased use of technology would seem to suggest otherwise.
Do you really think the ‘good old days’ were better?? I can assure you that they weren’t…

NOBODY MAKES HARNEY LOOK LIKE A SAINT,she is just as guilty as Haughey,Ahern and Cowen and the rest,children in a candy shop.That horrible excuse for a sham of a woman left a complete mess before she left.Sorry,before she was ran from the job.

What about the huge entertainment, food, accommodation, transport, services industry based around alcohol?
Legalising hash will only lead to massive profits for 24 hr petrol stations selling mars bars and Pringles.

Where have the patients gone? They’ve gone home, after having the procedure they were waiting for.

Do try to keep up, there’s a good woman.