Will have to remember this story next time I see one of those headwreck professional beggars that work for “charities” on the street.

Best quote I’ve ever seen on thejournal.ie

Please see here and then make your decision based on this:

http://www.givingwhatwecan.org/about-us/frequently-asked-questions#ourownproblems

“9. Shouldn’t we fix our own country’s problems first?

Giving What We Can focuses exclusively upon the world’s poorest nations because that is where a donation can do the most good. For example, suppose we want to help those who are blind. We can help blind people in a developed country like the United States by paying to train a guide dog. This is more expensive than most people realize and costs around $50,000 to train a dog and teach its recipient how to make best use of it.4 In contrast, there are millions of people in developing countries who remain blind for lack of a cheap and safe eye operation. For the same amount of money as training a single guide dog, we could completely cure enough people of Trachoma-induced blindness to prevent a total of 2,600 years of blindness.5 If you look at the charity comparisons section of this website, you will see many more examples like this about how a given donation can achieve vastly more in developing countries than it ever could in developed countries. There is thus a very strong argument in favour of giving to those living abroad.

Moreover, waiting until we fix our own problems may mean waiting forever. Compared to other parts of the world, we have been experiencing unrivalled prosperity for a very long time. If we can’t help those far less fortunate than ourselves now, when will we?”

Also – a relative judge of poverty internationally:
http://www.givingwhatwecan.org/why-give/how-rich-you-are

FACTS
A single person on the dole in Ireland is in the top 9.9% of income levels in the world (9770)
A lone parent family with 2 children getting 600 euros per month of housing assistance is in the top 13% (23435.2)
A couple on the old age pension (contrib) with no dependants is in the top 8.3% (22703.2)

All of the above usually qualify for free western healthcare, which value isn’t taken into account

And
Single person on minimum wage (16867.5 after tax 16294) is in the top 4.3%
Single person on median wage (29k – after tax 24255) – top 1.7%
Family of 4 with combined income of 70k per year plus child benefit (after tax/child ben 59226) – top 4.9%

The family is worth 17 times the average income of a world citizen

We cannot leave the poor of Uganda to hang. The cost of saving one life there would not even pay for the overnight costs of just 1 homeless person in Uganda.

No doubt Sean Quinn is behind his !

this ….

A good reason for me to hunt those black babies collectors that hound people on the streets.

African countries have received over 1 trillions dollars in aid in the last 25yrs…. Money is not the answer

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

@ dev..no point in giving a fishing rod to a man in the desert :)

Let’s hope pulling the plug on the funds doesn’t p*ss them off!!!

Aye !! And we hardly have any money to run this country of ours. Food & fuel poverty on the rise here.

how right you are

Can’t believe we are donating 16 million while we are in the middle of a bailout surely we should look after our less well off I’m sure a lot of Irish people could do with a help. Charity starts at home .

Fair you talk common sence

That makes too much sense. It’ll never happen!!

I’d like to know what the two guys who gave me the finger down think.
Probably you’re right Ciaran.

You’re not wrong, but I’d still rather feed kids who are starving to death than pay debts to European bankers. Even the homeless and disabled here, although I disagree with the cuts we’re imposing, they’re not at acute risk of death. Maybe a stupid thing to say in an article about the Ugandan PM embezzling charity funds but the concept is right.

So… six people do want to see the children starve to death in order to pay off European bankers?

Why is Ireland paying for the ruination of the African continent anyway?! It was the British,French, Germans,Belgians and Portuguese who robbed the good stuff for 200 years and then left in a hail of bullets..leaving misery and corruption behind them?What are we doing paying to clean up their mess?We were as piss poor as Uganda until we got our own freedom! I’m all for charity but as the saying goes..CHARITY STARTS AT HOME! This is a no-brainer but unfortunately are government have no brains….*sigh*

here we go again…

who’s Bono?

Why?

Neither would I….

Bono is a little known artist who plagarised the works and persona of Gavan Friday!

Eileen , you do not go half far enough. If people are charitable how do they know where it is going ? How much does the chugger get? How much do staff get paid? What about some of the grotesque wages paid at the top, the top management , the CEO’s, the drip feed into foreign countries , the Foreign Politicians who see the Aid as just supplemental income , and back down the chain to the ground on foreign lands ? I am sick of this with both domestic and foreign subventions is going? Whether it be a personal donation or national foreign aid (a debate able proposition in our current third world circumstances) how much of each single euro gets to the intended recipient?
1% or 10 % or more ?

Eileen! Have you ever! Finished a sentence! Without! An exclamation point!

@ Paul Mc
Glad you noticed ! :) !!!!

@ Rory
I am sick of it too , tired ,stressed and wits end and great quote by Feeds ^^^ “Foreign aid is taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries.”
— Ron Paul
People by and large do not mind giving to charity , but this just takes the biscuit ! Ooops must not upset Paul Mc .

Rory – 90.8% if Concern’s model is anything to go by: http://www.concern.net/en/about/how-money-spent

Who are the people that red thumbed this? Shameful….

Must say I agree. Like this country is streched to the limit and we can’t even take care of ourselves. Our generosity has always been wonderful in terms of foreign aid, but clearly we can’t afford this anymore

Wondering if this government isn’t actually throwing cash in there and getting a high percentage of it again…. In the back pocket!! Wouldn’t surprise me

Hi Seán. To react: if you can already see things that have yet to happen,
it’s called hallucinating. But, that’s ok. Things like that can happen to folk
under incredible pressure. And on-drugs. & fluoride is one, btw. Classed as
one at least, on paper.
I just wanted to point out that in ze Deutsche language, ‘Concern’ … well,
it means “corporation”.
You have gotten rid of the sending abroad the cream of Irish youth, but
the good-will, paved with good intentions &c., that as an industrial element
to the Irish society that was heretofore, everything, that has merely been
transferred onto another podium.
After all, folk doing-for-their-eternal-penance a goodwill gift (tax free, acc.-
-cording to d’accountant), every penny accounted for, well: that can do no
harm? As it always was, without d’Church gettin involved? Or taken my
daughter?
Uganda? the body for administeratering this funding, it is located in
the city of Limerick, right? There’s a chap there, who is employed there
in a giveaway position. His name is John. He banned me from Ireland
in a previous life of his, as a givernment administrator in another govt
department, foreign affairs. Where he is still, employed. Doing good.
Because, administering that knows no end. And it pays very well too.
Maybe you ought to think about it yourself, as a career in business
administration, Irish style.
Like the 2-millen no-can-do military transport helicopters in Sudan?
Who got the chop for that? Other than the locals, there. haha just like
a reflection of Ireland?
So, other than that you already stated Seán: no, you do not need spectacles.
Ye are really being ripped-off: left, right and (certainly) centre.
What about the babies in Romania?
Wont you have to help them too? And the starving of Calcutta?
The pride of Ireland Lions Cubs, they surely wont not organise for
them? To “|do something|” for them? A golf round? A raffle chaps?
Call the TD fellow? (or just meet him of a night out at the 19th hole?)
Ah-sure? What can-you-do chaps?
So many starving in Mexico too?
Your pals in Montrose think ‘living in food poverty’ means not being
able to eat-out off Prince Nassau Street? More than thrice a week?
And they are the ones telling you how it is in the country you live-in?

You are in desperate need of some formatting, and brevity while you are at it

@Michael what is it I desperately need?
Bereavement Irish? Who will be handing
over my dead body to my parents? The
same Irish A-holes who have refused to
discuss anything (I only wanted a holiday)
with me since being diagnosed with MS?
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0404/europe.html
Is that what I need Michael? I’m asking you.

Have you ever been to Africa??

lol, good one Victoria!

Indeed, even with our IMF program we can subsidise them buying a fleet of Sukhoi Fighter Jets.

Share the wealth!

http://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/uganda-updf-get-more-sukhoi-su-30mk2-jets/

@Jenny : many of your (totally unregulated) “charities” (so-called)
are amply funded on their annual spreadsheets by the massive
funds that they receive from various pharmaceutical corporations
operating out of your near-to zero& corporation tax arrangements
(aptly termed “special-case” arrangements, and available only to
foreign corporations).
It’s amazing… the total give-aways going-on within your own
economy. And on a daily basis too! Money to “give-away”.
What an i.d.a.?
Meanwhile, your country ranks alongside Belarus on the MD-id
2011 Barometer? It’s a Europe-wide report on a certain pathology
(multiple sclerosis), but it reveals an awful backdrop to the news
over there in Ireland, about how much money is paid by the people
to the (very few, and ‘select’ humans that are there treated as gods)
called, in the local vernacular, as con-sultans.
There are so few of them there? For such a generous people?
As ‘thé’ Irish are?
Who are they?
-
Ask someone dxd’s with any kind of neurological illness and who
is standing within your nation’s borders when they hear that,
ask them…. if they feel like they live in Uganda?
http://www.ms-id.org/barometer2008/employment-of-people-with-ms/index.html#Q3.4
I’m talking all kinds of neurological conditions? Even those from
car accidents? Those are popular in Ireland, right?
-
It’s amazing, with hundreds of millions of Euro in ‘annual funding’
being supplied to the society, in Dublin, that “looks after” these poor
unfortunate, “MS” people… that that is considered to be a “charity”…?
When all that the so-called “lifelong” members see each year, is a
big lofty annual report arriving in the post? And Ireland are on-par
with Belarus for the ratio of neurologists-to-population? Nota bene
physicians … who are there accorded the God status by these “charities”…
so-much-so that nothing can be questioned? It is “all good”…?
Just like in sunny Belarus?
It’s amazing that there is even a so-called ‘charity bank account for
the pathology MS in Ireland, given that the report above states
that those with the condition are barred from the workplace? So that
they are forced to stay at-home: regardless of their age? 16… 23.. 44…
who cares? It’s over… and ‘we’ are your charity?
And with the pharmaceutical fdi idea-investment corporations are
paying c. 80% of the annual budgets of these paved with good-intention
organisations … for salaries, and costs, and printing & postage (petty ca$h)
then can anyone explain why so much effort and good-intentions go into
funding the small 20% that the industrial pharmaceutical giants are not
paying for…?
Something to do for the wheeley chair people? Sponsored spelling-tests?
If another relative writes to me telling me they are going around asking
the poor, broke, ignorant (apparently) neighbours of my other family-relative
to give ‘them’ funds … in cents … so that s/he will be stimulated to learn?
To spell? And these organisations (unregulated) that are operating in your
country, “motivating” the young ones to pick up a book … for ca$s…? To help
the in-valids? wtf? A budget of hundreds of thousands, propped up by the corporations
that front-up Ireland’s surging-exports… in medical ‘solutions’ that are not even
available to the indigen folk on that island? Ye accept that?
Belarus & you… on-par?

They never beg? where have you been, you don’t have to go any further than Entebbe airport to experience it. I spent 5 years living there and I was constantly accosed by beggars, all you need is a white skin and you are fair game. Open your eyes and face reality.
I have faced this non accountability many times and I have often wondered why the charities keep sending money without proper accountability, it must surely be poor accountability on their part as well.

Allan stop demeaning the people of Uganda. We are materially and spiritually rich. Our African values of reaching out to each other are firm. Corruption is a crime in Uganda. If a few officials misappropriated resources – why tag the whole of Uganda. Thank you Eimear Fleming for your honesty.

Are you drunk?

Noel Mc Cullagh
Go away . The people here dont want the IMF , the ECB or the EFSM…. or anythinng else ffs.
It was the lying cheating two faced badstarts who lied to get into government ,and to save their own pensions over paid and idiotic salaries who went with begging cup in hand …

WTF ?

Noel if what you said actually made any grammatical sense you’d be even more full of sh*t. as it stands you sound (read) like ur off ur head.

@BB hahah. & your name is: Bilbo Baggins? From the Shire land?
A land for hire? Is that a place in Ireland? shIre-land? Or sire land?
Irish people constantly say “the government” & “the state” … ?
It means ‘you’. It’s your government, your state. (And your debt).
-
Ireland don’t need the trinity? Why is it the basis for your Irish constitution?
Just like that other breakaway British republic: Pakistan.
Their constitutional basis is Allah. Your republic’s is Jasush, and ‘his’ Troika.
Read it for yourselves. Wonder what your pals Uganda base theirs upon?