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Joan Burton says rent supplement review a “positive” move

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MINISTER FOR SOCIAL Protection Joan Burton has said that the recent review of rent supplement levels “has had a positive impact on those working and renting”. She also said that the changes had ensured that “rent supplement tenants are suitably housed”.

The rent supplement scheme is intended to provide “short-term income support” to people who are renting non-State owned accommodation but whose income is not enough to meet the rental costs because they are either unemployed or working on a part-time basis.

Burton made her remarks in a commentary on the Daft.ie report of rental asking prices and stock of rental properties for the final quarter of 2011. In it, she noted that rents have stabilised over 2011 and even as back as far as December 2009. She wrote:

The issue of rents stabilising since December 2009, given the deterioration in both net disposable incomes and employment opportunities, does pose the question as to whether an element of this relates to the pricing floors available to landlords in the form of rent supplement limits. It is essential that rents are allowed to stabilise from a natural balance of supply and demand, rather than as a result of a price floor funded by the taxpayer.

To this end – allowing rents to “stabilise from a natural balance of supply and demand” – Burton argued that there had been an urgent need to review how the State intervenes in the private rental market by way of providing the rental supplement. Some figures from the Department of Social Protection:

  • Rent supplement expenditure by the State increased from €369m in 2005 to €503m in 2011
  • The number of people claiming rent supplement rose from 60,200 in 2005 to 96,800 by end 2011
  • Rent supplements are paid out for around 40 per cent of private rented properties
  • Over 55,000 people have been on the rent supplement scheme for 18 months or more

Burton said that as the rent supplement scheme “is not designed to be a housing solution” but rather “a temporary income support” for people while they are “temporarily unemployed”, it is “essential” that a review take place:

It is essential, therefore, that State support for rents are kept under review, reflect current market conditions and do not distort the market in a way that could increase rent prices for others, such as low paid workers and students.

She said that recent readjustments to the maximum rent limits available to those in receipt of rent supplement – carried out in June 2010 and December 2011 – were done so to try and align them with both the availability of rental stock and the average rental prices on an area-by-area basis (rural rental prices have largely been falling, while some urban areas have seen some slight increases).

Burton asserted that no-one will be made homeless by the reviews. She wrote of December’s rental limit review:

The experience of the previous review (in June 2010) showed that landlords, generally, accepted the revised limits, with no case of homelessness or undue hardship by rent supplement tenants. It is accepted that there will be isolated cases after this review, where landlords will refuse to reduce the rent they seek, and in those instances tenants will be expected to secure alternative accommodation.

Burton claimed that in those cases, tenants would be given “reasonable time” to find new accommodation and that her Department would “ensure that rent supplement recipients’ accommodation needs are met”. She said: “There will be no incidence of homelessness due to these changes”.

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  • 3christian3 09/02/12 #
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    Surprise Surprise!

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    • 3christian3 09/02/12 #
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      Ms Burton also stated that Sean QUinn was a gambler when we now know from recent High Court revelations that it was Anglo who gambled the Quinn companies by shovelling billions at the QUinns for the illegal purpose of propping up the share price of the bank.
      Great to see the truth finally emerging and also on George Lee’s “The Business” on RTE when respected barrister Ross Mc Guire from New Beginnings stated that the believed that Anglo’s challenge to Quinn’s Northern Ireland bankruptcy was vindictive.

      See http://www.quinn-anglo-story-blogspot.com for more startling revelations.

    • Louise Hanney 09/02/12 #
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      And this has to do with the renting scheme, how exactly?

    • Tim Henchin 09/02/12 #
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      Seanie blew up his own business. He really has no one to blame. What finished him was trying to buy Anglo on the secret with loans. That was the height of dumb. He was the only one that can be held accountable for that.

  • Mata Mata 09/02/12 #
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    Minister can we see a list showing the rent allowance for all areas so people can budget , negotiate and know what areas they can move to.

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  • DaveC 09/02/12 #
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    Dear Minister Burton, your Job Bridge scheme continues to be a complete farce. It remains shockingly unmonitored and easily manipulated by employers looking for free staff. Many jobs continue to lost because of this scheme and it is quite simply a joke.

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    This is terrible.

    Minister, you know how the game works.

    1. First no site value tax on property

    2. You give us a tax break to build in the first place.

    3. You help us with Planning Permission

    4. Then to keep property values from reaching their true low value you set up NAMA.

    5. You get tenants for us and pay the rents.

    6. You don’t bother checking do we pay tax on this income.

    Because we are the haves. Don’t mess with us.

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  • Mensah Mensah 09/02/12 #
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    Dont have the energy to comment on this woman and the government..i will leave it so…

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  • Mary Hession 09/02/12 #
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    The aim of the game is too get ppl off the rent allowance and on to ras schemes,what the ppl on housing lists don’t know,is if your on a housing list and have been waiting years to be housed and if you sign up to the ras scheme,you are removed off the housing list and your file is closed! This the councils say is due to the new government mandate on housing. This is not right! As the ras scheme only gives you 5 year security of housing,you never get a permanent home. Maybe the journal could do an article on this sharp pratice of the ras scheme and highlight it for public debate?

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  • Keith L Cullen 09/02/12 #
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    The rent supplement reduction is a good move and I would argue it should come down even further. The rental market will never find its true level with the supplement at it’s current rate. This payment props up the rent levels and is also going to pay (only in some cases) for the ridiculous investment mortgages given out during the boom. It’s like a reward for a bad investment. In other cases it is providing ridiculous profit for professional landlords who were in the renting game long before the bubble.
    It annoys me that the government far from wanting to stabilise the rental and housing price market in general (with NAMA and the supplement) at a sustainable level are only artificially inflating prices with their policies.

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  • Shanti Om 09/02/12 #
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    Oh, so they DO look at daft when making their rates…
    I guess they’ve been trying to bring down rental prices all along then, failing miserably mind, but trying..

    A couple I know, both physically disabled and with no hope of being able to work, recieved €90 per week in 2008 between them in rent supplement. This is the (then) maximum payable to a couple sharing in our area.

    The maximum they were allowed to claim for is what seems to confuse people.. At that time the maximum you could claim for was €820 per month, it’s easy to misunderstand that and think €820 would be paid out of the average price for a 1 bed apartment / house in the area (average price on daft at the time €1100-1200). In reality, €390 was the amount given..

    Plus, they were forced to commit fraud by stating that their rent was anywhere near as low as the maximum claim level, because had they told the truth about what their rent was the Community Welfare Officer would flat out refuse to contribute anything. After all, €820 is the maximum permitted claim, completely out of sync with the reality of rental prices, but the dead certain maximum according to the CWO.

    As it stands now the maximum permitted claim in our area is €520 for a couple sharing. A small studio apartment suitable for 1 in our area will set you bak at least €600. And the maximum paid by the government? €70 per week or about €305 per month (they multiply it by 52 and divide it by 12 according to the Citizens Info)

    Maybe the enforced fraud is what distorts their figures? One way or the other if they were looking at daft they should have realised that their figures don’t and never have matched up, and that the majority of property available for rent explicitly states that rent allowance is not accepted (this may be a factor, most of the rent allowance not accepted comes from letting agencies).

    It must be nice out there in cloud cuckoo land Joan.. Guess you’ve forgotten the reality you were so quick to bring up back when you were in opposition..

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    • Keith L Cullen 09/02/12 #
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      Shanti in answer to your question of how much I think it is see this link. http://namawinelake.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/rent-assistance-rates-slashed-by-up-to-45-set-to-change-irish-residential-rental-market/
      These are the official rates. The maximums speak for themselves and set the ground rent for all other rents.

    • Shanti Om 09/02/12 #
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      Hey Keith.
      The tables shown on namawinelake are the same tables as the citizens info website and yes, they are correct.
      The error is how they are perceived.

      As you can see there, maximum permitted for a couple with no kids in Bray (north Wicklow) is €520. This is the maximum that they are allowed claim for – which is misleading, it implies that they claim for €520 out of the price of their rent, but this is not how it works.

      If you apply for rent supplement and your rent is €521+, you will be automatically rejected. The €520 refers to the maximum your rent is allowed to be.

      If you would care to go over to daft.ie there and run a search for property to let in Bray for €520, you’ll notice it’s slim pickings, and hardly suitable for 2.
      Remove the price restriction and just search 1 bed properties in Bray. The average is closer to €750.

      See the disconnect?

  • Keith L Cullen 10/02/12 #
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    Hi Shanti, I do not doubt the disconnect. It still does not change my point which is the rent supplement distorts the true cost of rent in the state. According to the figures above the average supplement received per person is 433 euro per month. Obviously this changes depending on the area you live in. The problem with decreasing it in this manner is that the government is relying on tenants to negotiate a new rent. This is ridiculous. As the biggest payer of rent in the state, they should do the negotiating. This would reduce the fear factor for tenants. The money still goes to the places I stated above.
    I fear that there are and will be cases where landlords will put the going rate on the forms and ask the tenants to make up the difference.
    The property situation in this country is disgraceful in many ways. It is in need of huge reform. There are empty properties that for a small amount of money can be made habitable for good honest people who have fallen on hard times. Maybe something like a register of landlords who will accept the supplement rates is a step in the right direction. The supplement should be paid directly into their accounts by the Department with high penalties for landlords who try to extort anything over the going rate.
    But I have little confidence in this happening.

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  • Lisa Daly 11/02/12 #
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    OMG, this excuse for a human being/polititian has the cheek to say that her stupid money wasting reviews are justified?…My landlord was already well below the limit , but still they insist on a review, not alone that but unless your on a housing list you cannot get rent supplement, wether you actually want to be on a six year waiting list or not. some of us dont. some of us have other plans. some of us only need temporary assistence with rent.. So why is she deliberately inflating the housing list?. , YOU CANNOT GET RENT SUPPLEMENT UNLESS YOU ARE ON HOUSING LIST. what the hell does she think she is playing at? . If you bought a house at any time in your life and claimed the interest reliefe on your mortgage YOU CANNOT GO ON HOUSING LIST EVER EVER. If you arrive in this country with nothing but a dubious background YOU GET EVERYTHING. If you were a law abiding citizen who has paid taxes and extotionate vat rates all your life YOUR AN IDIOT. And if you voted for this inarticulate ignorant excuse for a politition you deserve every thing you get

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