If they apologise it may be construed as an admission of guilt and they could be liable to pay compo.

I thought that one indeed but ffs How can FG (through Kenny himself) have spoken so strongly early on about previous reports?

It’s just so blatant that I don’t understand how they can’t see that they are throwing themselves on the tracks by not apologising.

They lied to the UN in 2011!

I’d say you’re spot on there Norman.

Kenny was in the Dail since 74 i think?open to correction of course.

Norman
We all knew about the Magdalene Laundries and the Industrial Schools. I went to a fee paying secondary school and a common joke by the lay teachers was that if we didn’t behave we’d be sent to Letterfrack or Artane where there was real discipline. Girls were warned that if they couldn’t behave they’d end up doing Laundry for the nuns.
The point here is that all of Irish Society was complicit in the brutality of these regimes where sometimes incarceration was due to being an orphan.
When girls escaped the police frequently brought them back but also members of the public!
So when do we get your apology Norman? Would you like to provide it before you read the Report as Mary Lou has asked the Taoiseach or after?
I believe the Government will want to give a comprehensive response rather than the knee jerk reactions that we have seen on these pages.
That would be much more dignified than the Mary Lou silliness.

Richard good morning i left you a response to your question as to whether i was on the dole.The answer is no not now never have been lucky i guess.
Now will you answer mine have you recieved a fine or summons for the pollution you claimed your septic tank caused to the local water course?

BTW i was 12 when the last laundry closed so what have i to say sorry for?
I feel sad what happened to these women and girls but like you and thousands of others i wasn’t a TD who could have said stop.
Did Enda say stop?should be easy for you to find out seeing as your retired and have plenty of time on your hands to comment here.

Well Richard? are you going to answer my question?its posted above incase you forgot it.

You and i tax payers will have to pay to these unfortunate and the full cost should be then extracted from the Church.
On a different note the FG/Lab government lied to the UN.

David did you see Shatter in the Dail yesterday and then the replay of his moral outrage in 2009 in the Dail as replayed by V Brown,sickening.

@david

Would you agree that labour TD’s are beginning to distance themselves from FG because they know the ship is sinking? Alan shatter is definitely one of the most arrogant people I’ve ever encountered. If FG are outraged as you say the he has to be the first to walk the plank.

David, once more, i challenge your unwavering support for FG. Come election time, you will spout the usual party line rhetoric, rather than go out and start a brand new right wing party. I have said it many times. People only vote for FFG/FF/Labour, because there is no other alternative on the right.
You are backing a losing horse, and have lost all credibility on this site because of the number of times you supported other obviously immoral actions that the Government have taken.
You call on your own party to do the right thing… Does this statement in itself, not tell you something about the party you blindly follow?
Try set up you own party … if it doesnt work, what have you lost? If it works, i trust you will try and do the right thing all the time rather than just some of the time. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Its your choice.

CnaP, CnaT, Democratic Left, Green Party and the PDs. What do they all have in common?

They all entered government only to be wiped out at the next election.

We have a four party system: FG, FF, Labour or Sinn Féin.

If you’re pragmatic about politics, join one and advance your views that way.

David, you are a young man … the country is ripe for the emergence and quick support for a new right wing party. If your only mantra for being in politics is to get into Government as quickly as possible, then you have another thing coming …. Show me your friends and i will show you the man.
If you lie with dogs, you will get up with fleas.
I strongly advise you to use your current position as a YFG member, as a vehicle NOW to start your own party. SF in 12 years has gone from 1-2 TDs to being on the verge of being part of the next Government. I hope they dont do it, as i agree with you, it would be the death knell for the party, to go in as a junior coalition party.
You on the other hand, could build support rapidly, even in time for the next election, and start making an impact NOW. The people want a genuine fresh face party on the right. You are young enough, not to be saddled with all the dirty laundry (excuse the pun) of your parent party. Break away now, start it up, get people behind you … You will not regret it. In 12-16 years, you could in theory be in Government in your own right.
If you continue to lay with the dogs you are lying with, you will end up as dirty, corrupt, not trusted and disliked as the current shower are.
I am not saying this to you to attack FFG/FF. I am saying this to you, as a left of centre thinker, looking at a right of centre thinker, and saying if only they could see the wood for the trees. If you go along for the ride on the coat-tails of thieves and beggars, then you will always be associated with them.

i concur una