Didn’t every teacher in the country get an iPad for some reason in the last 12 months? Ludicrous stuff!

No Ted, that’s just a lie. But don’t worry about it, you’re in the right place to peddle it and drum a sense of faux-outrage that would put Whineline to shame.

@Ted Em…..no. No they they didn’t. Did you read that in the Indo??

Aye cutting politicians pay and expenses will definitely shut the budget deficit. I agree that they are too well paid but people peddling the line that reducing their pay will magically erase all our ills shows how much they know about the situation.

There is no money tree that’s right so maybe FG could stop with the stealth taxes,the people have no more money Noonan.

You know what ! That most truthful thing you have said in 2 years , there is no money tree in the back garden , just like there’s no money tree in my back garden or my neighbours or for any other ordinary persons garden for that matter but you expect people to find money to pay for property tax , water rates , petrol , ESB and Gas increases etc…..

Cutting their pay (to European norms, at the very least) and expenses would have little or no effect on the €10Bn deficit.

It would make things seem a little fairer though.

You don’t ask people to do something your not prepared to do yourself ! That’s the issue here Bob !!!

jrbmc – I think I made that point?

You right it won’t but people just might be prepared to get behind them a little if they did .

Right – who’s the one red thumb tool objecting to their pay bing reduced?

He’s dead right, there is no money tree, so we can’t afford additional taxes and increases.

They actually did…

Chopped that tree down to keep the fire going in the dail bar I think.

All the money trees are in his back garden..

Money tree died year’s ago

What ! No magic beans ?

.A billion dollars was spent drilling for oil off Waterford with no discovery, and hundreds of millions spent looking elsewhere.

Let’s change the terms of the contract now entered into with Enterprise Oil before they discovered in the Atlantic. A bit like a bookie changing the odds after your horse wins.

I like your analagy Joe or we could use this one
A bit like the bondholders getting paid even though their bets lost.

you just keep spreading the governments blatant lies joe o shea, your hubris is disgusting

Indeed, Richard Boyd Barrett the well known petroleum geologist and complete non-waffler.

There is enough out there to clear our debt and sort out our mess of a country. Problem is we don’t have the infrastructure to dig for it etc, that should have been done when FF were busy in Galway tents, I apologise for ever voting for them. But it doesn’t mean we have to give it all away for nothing and our forests or our fishing. The EU has made 220 billion from OUR fishing water and our own fishermen have suffered. We have given a lot more to the EU. Can we just do one thing right and change the rates so that we get SOMETHING for the oil that is off the land where we were all born. Why does enda decide, it is belong to us all.

Wake up people.
Take a look at a few videos:
Australia politician talking about NWO hope that isn’t true.
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/-R9iua5ocQM

And that’s why he is saying “no more taxes” – taxpayers have been tapped out.

I interpret Noonan’s comments to mean further expenditure cuts to balance the books. And if Noonan would focus on cutting wasteful bureaucracy and not front line staff, then we just might see a bit of recovery

The huge profits made by multi nationals could go a long way as in bridging the deficit. However it seems that most of the population have been brainwashed in regards to corporation tax. Someone needs to sit down and actually calculate the real costs of foreign companies operating here. How much money is it costing in bribes to bring them here, and how much corporation tax (if any) are they actually paying?

Of course Rodrigo…lets get rid of all those multi nationals. We dont need their thousands of direct jobs and thousands more in the supply chain. Really? Do you seriously think that if we come down heavy on multinationals that they will hang around? Have you noticed that the rest of the EU want us to jack up our corporation tax rates. Have you ever wondered why Rod?

Let JournalWhingeBingo commence!

Close the loop holes where they pay no tax and collect the generous low corporation tax in full.

It’s not the low corporate tax rate they are here for, it’s the loopholes.. I (like eveyone else) cannot predict how many companies would jump ship were the loopholes be closed (or corporation tax increased), but you would have to be pretty confident of retaining the majority or it could backfire in terms of job losses & the related spend/welfare Payments etc.

As well as getting proper procurement…e.g. drugs expenditure in health etc etc. And kit and so on. People doing deals where the government pays the bills totally milk the sytem and bleed the taxpayer dry. I’d say if you took a bunch of retail buyers and and few IT heads and put them into the civil service they’d run riot and save state coffers a small fortune. How do you think that Tesco or Aldi can offer such good value for money? Its their process for buying.

The double Irish Dutch sandwich loop hole should definitely be closed, we still offer 12.5% tax rates which is a whole lot better than other EU counties. If the big multi nationals would pay even 10% we would see a significant rise in revenue, but this and the last government don’t want to face the tax of fixing it and prefer to continue to bleed the struggling public for every last cent they take home.
Closing that loophole wont see an exodus of multi nationals as they are too well aware that they still fair better operating here than where they will have no way around a 18-20% tax. Right now they are just creaming it at the expense of the public.

Retail buyers and a few IT heads? Jesus wept. It’s a tad more complex than that. The costs associated with implementing a sufficient IT system based on where we are now and putting in people in the right areas, as well as training older staff members in e-procurement is a costly affair. Trust me.

@dereck I assume your inside knowledge of the contingency plans of multi-nationals based in Ireland is due to your direct discussions with their Exec boards? Or rather, and i am just taking a wild guess here, is it based on your opinion, which happens to fit your argument?

“there is no hidden source of funds that the government can tap”?
“no money tree out in the back garden” and “no magic beans” that the government could tap”?
“I’m really saying is that there isn’t any unidentified source that will yield an awful lot of tax in our country”?
“It’s not there, there isn’t this hidden source of tax.”?

Lose the pseudo chip on your shoulder Noonan you over the hill Sleeveen!!!!
I know that you don’t want to rock your imminent fat pension boat.
But maybe it’s time that you asked the Norwegians for some advice?
Or are you just another also-ran Stoogeen Europuppet??
Another Irish Village Idiot Gombeen “politician”??
Another Ray Burke??
The Laughingstock of Europe??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=76VOnzXQMsU

Does this man not realise that this applies to EVERYONE’S back garden?

@Sean…. paying the proper rate of tax is hardly coming down hard. But our spineless shower in the dail would’nt dream of making them pay what we’re entitled to charge them.

Good points
The ECB do have a money tree, they were able to magic over a trillion dollars in cheap credit in tha last few years. Funny that, they say our 30 billion if not paid back would devalue the euro yet theres won’t

Bingo!!

Maybe maybe not but the banking elite would be viewing the world out windows with bars.

with a few bullets lodged in their skulls.

2 in 1, bonus round

reilly your mixing up criminals with entrepreneurs.

In all honesty Joe would you cut your own and other TD’s salaries if you were him?
It’s the right and fair thing to do but there isn’t one of them had the balls/courage to do it.

yes,, after a report published on their saleries here last week on the journal their is plenty of room , as it stated TD’s get 309,000 per year and ministers get 588,000,, bloody sickening

They have already taken a drop in their salaries. Fine Gael were the first party to do so.

Little red thumb true they dropped their salaries,but raised their expense’s just above the salary drop.Slight of hand.

FFS! Any cut in their salary is completely meaningless when they don’t have to put their hand in their pocket for ANYTHING. Their expenses and allowances could be cut in half and they’d still be on the pigs back.

We could also utilise the many other benefits of the plant.
Wood, paper, concrete, insulation material, biodegradable plastics, biofuels, food, fabrics, and goodness knows what else, anything that isn’t made of glass or metal apparently.
It’s a fast growing crop too, we could leave some our forests to grow properly again.

Then there’s the medicinal uses, the tourism we could generate if we had Amsterdam style coffee shops (goodness knows we have enough coffee shops as it is), the slogan could even play up our “Green Isle” image.

We could lead the way in a “Green” economy. Give it a few years to become more commonly decriminalised and we could have a booming export industry too.

No that’s just another lie. Don’t worry about it around here though.

Bingo!

Really really ? Or are you just being mean.

Really :D

He’s like a pantomime villain. Hard to believe he’s an elected representative.