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‘Every other option was illegal’ – Minister defends disability payments cut

Junior health minister Kathleen Lynch could provide no guarantees as to what will happen to the payments to those in receipt of the Mobility Allowance when it is axed in four months time.

Minister of State for Disability, Equality and Mental Health Kathleen Lynch
Minister of State for Disability, Equality and Mental Health Kathleen Lynch
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JUNIOR HEALTH MINISTER Kathleen Lynch has said that the government had no other option but to axe two disability transport payments saying that to have kept them would have been unaffordable for the State.

Lynch could provide no guarantee that those in receipt of the payments – the Mobility Allowance and the Motorised Transport Grant – would continue to receive it through another means once they are scrapped altogether in four months time.

“We now have the HSE going to do an in-depth look at who receives it, what their transport needs are and how we can ensure that their transport needs are met in the next four to five months,” she told RTÉ Radio.

“That’s what we’re looking at now and that’s the only guarantee I can give anyone.”

Her comments follow the announcement last night from the Department of Health that the payment of the Mobility Allowance of around €208 per month to 4,700 people will end in four months time in addition to the scrapping of the Motorised Transport Grant paid to 300 people.

This follows a finding by the Ombudsman Emily O’Reilly that the exclusion of people over the age of 65 from the scheme was illegal and breached equality law. The government says that it would cost too much to widen the scheme.

On RTÉ’s Morning Ireland Lynch said that to expand the scheme to include those over 65 would cost the State  €170 million to €300 million and said that “every single option we came up” as an alternative “was considered to be illegal”.

‘We simply cannot afford it’

She said the choice was either to open it up or to close it down and said that the latter was chosen with a view to taking “a serious look as to how we would develop a transport system for everyone in the country”.

Lynch said: “The facts are that if we keep this scheme going as it now exists then it will be open to everyone who is over 65 and who, within the Disability Act, is defined as having a disability.

“We simply cannot afford it, we are trying desperately to deliver  services within the health service to everyone.”

She said that the Departments of Transport, Environment, Public Expenditure and Reform, Local Government and officials from the Revenue and disability groups would consult with the chair of an independent review group, Sylda Langford, to devise alternatives.

The Department siad last night that the €10.6 million funding for the two schemes would remain in place. Mobility Allowance is a means-tested grant paid to people who are disabled and are unable to use public transport.

The Motorised Transport Grant is paid to people with a disability to allow them to adapt their cars or vehicles for driving.

Earlier the Ombudsman Emily O’Reilly told RTÉ that it was “puzzling” that the Department had taken the decision to scrap the payment.

“We never expected that they would abolish the scheme in this way,” she said.

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Comments (87 Comments)

  • No shortage of money when this excuse for a public representative decided to give her husband a job.

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  • Where are these figures coming from?
    It doesn’t add up.
    Everything they’ve tried is illegal, so they shut it down?
    It smacks of a petty and vindictive attitude.
    As pointed out yesterday a Dublin Td can claim 12000 euros to drive to work.
    Something is seriously wrong at the heart of this state.

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  • This is very, very hard to believe. Infuriating.

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  • labour are following in the Greens footsteps. Pity your pensions won’t be illegal, just immoral

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  • Funny how the government is happy enough to ‘loosely apply’ the law sometimes…when it suits them (promissory notes…)…and to ‘regretfully’ follow it to the letter at other times…when it suits them.

    Shameful.

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  • It’s a bloody disgrace, SHAME ON YOU ALL

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  • Why not start on the top… The politician gravy train needs to come off the rails…. They’re an absolute disgrace in every sense of the word.

    Could some clarify if Kenny will be entitled to 4 pensions?

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  • still dosent make it ok Minister !

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  • smudge 27/02/13 #

    It’s all going to be all right as i just heard the minister say” she understands the hardship that people will go through by not getting this anymore”, what a load of shite, bankers bailed out, public sector workers sold out, families losing child support, I was taking to my brother in law in America last night about the state of what’s going on in Ireland and he can’t understand why there hasn’t been a revolt and strikes

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  • Wait till you see what they have planned for the disability sector as a whole with their value for money plan….. Smoke and mirrors that will see Services diminished and cheap agency staff on 9 month contracts. Now that’s service for you.

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  • Kathleen said the scheme was illegal, the scheme was not illegal, the age restriction was as it discriminates. More spin and lies.

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  • So exam afford 64 billion euro for private banking debt but not 150 million for the people who built this country..

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  • Basically she is saying that we cannot afford it. And on the face of it yes we can’t afford when we have to pay 70 billion to bondholders. Get rid of them and we can afford anything.

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    • why are we still giving €638 million in aid to Africa every? There are now hungry children in Ireland there are people who cant afford to heat the houses and people who committed because they can’t see a way out

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    • A typical Irish answer to an Irish problem .We leave our Government rob the poor and the answer is lets take it off the even worse off. They wayout is not starving black babies to death .

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    • @ Jack Daniels, – Since Western nations started pouring money, food, medicine, etc. into Africa, the native population has increased more than FIVE fold;- from 200m. to 1,100m.
      If I had half a dozen starving, emaciated children, the last thing I would do is have one more, – let alone another half-dozen, Unless of course, some fool was sending me free food, clothes, money etc.
      Then I may as well bang away…

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    • Is that you Kathleen.I think you may find they keep having children because their uneducated and like the Irish of old not so old there ancient beliefs encourage it.Do you think a woman wants to get pregnant straight after seeing her child starve to death i dont know maybe the are so traumatized about the life they have they might just think differently to us.Maybe if the ignorant men stopped raping them out of misery and boredom the woman might have a chance The Western World has destroyed Africa and yo begrudge them food. Join FG they will have a job for you and Suzanne.

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    • By god those those starving folk in Africa need to learn a little personal responsibility!

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    • @ Jack D. – youre innocence is pitiful. You said it yourself, education is the answer, although I have a sneaking suspicion that they know where babies come from.
      If it is, as you say, a country full of ‘rapists’, then I say to hell with them. We are only helping to feed & breed the rapists of tomorrow.
      Charity begins at home.
      When you are starving, you will sing a different tune, & your African buddies won’t help you, rest assured of that.

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    • My innocence is pityfull.Enjoy the world you live if you do then you truely are a man/woman of vision and empathy.Stll have’nt figured out why we are in this mess its because people only think of themselves and when the tough gets going the rough get tough.Spin your hate some other to heartless me feiner.Your ignorance is pityfull .Irish people say nothing about paying billions to unsecured bondholders but like the idea of supporting Government policy here Cuts to Aid in Africa.Famie you should remember it happened here a few centuries ago.Never said it was a country full of Rapists.No point talking to you and do you think i will leave myself starve if there’s crops in the field because a hardlined person says i cant eat it.No way BOSSMAN. Not this oppressed slave .Remember people the African never Bankrupted my country .Anyway back to people with disabilities been shafted.

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    • Trek.You should change your Avatar you are doing the Great Man a disservice.Peace ya sure.

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    • @ susanna smyth:
      with people like you among the electorate of this state, it’s no wonder that er have FG/Labour in power.
      so the starving children of the third world are to blame ??
      & not FG/Lbaour ??

      maybe Susanna Smyth’s real name is Kathleen Lynch ?

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    • ” Peace ya sure.” – ??
      Ghandi once famously said;- ” it is better to be violent, if violence is what is in your heart, – rather than hide behind the cloak of peace to conceal your impotence. ”
      I just tell it like it is, if I speak the untruth, please feel free to correct me…

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  • M Bowe 27/02/13 #

    VRT has been ruled illegal. So when will this very legal compliant government shelve this tax as well??

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  • Am i allowed say Lying Beitch?

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  • One word Mrs. Katherine Lynch TD, SELLOUT!!!!!!!

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  • When will people learn that they are only getting started people need to stand together in this country and fight for their rights

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  • Kathleen Lynch is a disgrace. She is part of the most inept, uncaring and selfish group of people to ever govern in this state. Their only priorities are looking after the rich, the bankers and the bondholders, oh and protecting their own extravagant salaries and expenses and making sure their own massive undeserved pensions are protected. After that they don’t care. The Taoiseach might shed an odd tear sometimes but they are crocodile tears. He is totally out of his depth as a leader and he presides over a useless crowd of chanchers who are driving this country over a cliff. Kathleen Lynch is in good company. There is not one single decent human being among them.

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  • I think the Labour Party has taken a step back in evolutionary terms, their backbones have disappeared.

    Seriously though they really are a disgrace, worse then Fianna Fail, because these guys claim to represent something better.

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  • It seems these Labour ministers are quite willing to step forward and publicly associate themselves with these draconian attacks on the citizenry…. No surprise there as it’s plainly obvious now twas the oul ministerial pensions these pups were after all the time. They knew from the day they took office they would not be re-elected because of their betrayals and lies. This is a new low, even for these duplicitous scam artists.

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    • It has become a very rewarding game for politicians . They get into office – do what the Establishment and the Rich want . then they get thrown out – but collect many rewards – including Pensions – and a new lot get in and do exactly the same thing .
      We are utter fools to put upwith this scam . Why has Leinster House not been burned down . If voting cahnged anything – — we would not have the vote .
      Its called ” demcoracy ”— which it is not.

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  • “€208 per month to 4,700 people”

    Here, I know where we can get the money and have a tonne of it to spare. Let’s raise TD pensionable age to the national standard and max it at €100k (or less). Job done and enough to spare for other services.

    Any politician making cuts that does not address the injustice of Ministers / TDs pensions is a complete self serving spinner of truth… ie a liar. No question.

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    • Jack Daniels Yes the western world destroyed Africa. Germany France Portugal Spain Holland NOT Ireland. We have never invaded anywhere yet we pay more than countries that have been there and exploited their resources. The Chinese are doing it now

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    • @ susanna smyth
      we were the victim of invasion ourselves & our people were destroyed by a great famine.
      those who died in our ‘Great Famine’ were just as blameless than those dieing of hunger in the third world, as we speak.

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  • What a pathetic excuse for cost cutting. This decision will be recinded because the government has no idea of the reaction it will create. The organisations for the disabled, their families and friends as a group will take to the streets. Hang your head in shame Kathleen Lynch. Who advised her on this gem? Her husband who was charged with criminal offences. I mean, he would know what is legal and what is not.

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  • John 27/02/13 #

    I am a deaf person and the grave robber took E18 out of my E62 monthly household benefits that I dependend on to pay for heating in the house. I sent two letters to them but these went unanswered. I did expect a cut but not as bad as this.

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  • This is a disgrace. How can she even start to defend this. I don’t know how these people look in the mirror in the morning knowing they are ruining people’s lives.. They will do anything the troika tells them to do. What is the point if them at all.. Highest paid administrators in the world.

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  • Seems like they can afford everything but their own people.Wait until the Fiscal Treaty kicks to full swing.Have you slowly got used to the unthinkable cuts that nobody expected when the Coalition swept into Government,Yes! good because there’s loads more to come.Next time im in the bookies and my bet does’nt come in im going to ring my friends and tell them go to Enable Ireland and shakedown the disabled because that’s what their there for .People around the world must be thinking do you know what the Irish are doing taking the wheels of the disabled people’s wheelchairs to pay Bilionaires.. jesus their ruthless ignorant people.I agree.

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  • That’s just great! It costs too much to extend the scheme to the over 65′s so we’ll just withdraw it altogether?! Is there no limit to the small-minded meaness of this government. And have they even bothered to cost extending it?

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  • I get the 104 eu per month.I had too. Prove I couldn’t walk too 3doctors .I use the money towards my rent . I live on 188eu per week I’ll be screwed .

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  • Come to think of it, when did Kathleen Lynch leave Home and Away?

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  • sean 27/02/13 #

    Ah minister sure there’s a lot of things in this country that we cannot afford , yet are paid out
    check the corridors of planet dail eireann you will find most of them there .

    I would list them , but I,m too busy busting my arse working to try and keep the roof over my families head , while you parasites bleed us dry

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  • omg enda on tv,, someone shoot him,,, he keeps saying same shite,,, no cuts,, but its going to get cut in 4 months,,,think his working from a script and cant come up with answers,, why dont they let his speech guy have an ear piece,,, he will let the disabled go back up to dublin i am just praying weather warmer for them,,, lynch is like the rest of them heartless,, heartless heartless,, cut your friggin pensions and help them,, its been illegal for years,, so why cut them in 4 months,,, they have not come up with a solution in the last 2 years,, what makes them say they can do it now in 4 months,,,,, no chance it will be fixed in 4 months,, we need to stop fg and labour now,, they are out of control,

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  • Shocking. This is a government of cuts, cuts, and more cuts. Everytime they cut they take money out of the economy and push more people into difficulty. They have hit the children, now the disabled, the sick are suffering from reduced care due to staff shortages, who are what is next when they show no regard for the most vunerable in society. I expected this of FG, but hoped labour would stop the worst of it.

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  • Wagon!!

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  • the promissory notes were illegal too but that didn’t stop the ICB, ECB and the rest from going along with them until a member of the public started to expose their illegality!!

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  • They say that every other option that they came up with was also illegal….so why don’t they publish all the other options that they came up with so that we can see for ourselves?

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  • Minister of State for Disability, Equality and Mental Health Kathleen Lynch? Equality her and shower dont understand the meaning of the word pity they dont cut half the dail her been first that would save a lot? then they could leave people with a disablement alone O’ come on election time.

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  • I can see some merit in not paying an allowance to over 65s if they already can avail of free transport where available. Surely something could’ve been worked out, this sounds completely immoral.

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    • Neil Finley if you could take your head out of your arse you might think more clearly a disabled persion wheather 65 or 25 cannot use public transport that is why the need this grant?

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    • There is no need to be rude when making your point Michael but fair enough point all the same. There are varying degrees of disability, maybe a system of providing a grant based on need rather than a one size fits all?

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  • This will end up being illegal and unconstitional Im sure…and if not its off to the European Court of Human Rights we go!! These people make me sick!

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  • Peter to you know that the Dept of Health & The HSE doesn’t recognise IBD (Crohn’s & Colitis) in children as a lifelong disease, even though adults can and do supper from IBD (Crohn’s & Colitis).

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  • M Bowe 27/02/13 #

    How about charging google the proper 12.5% corporate tax rate there an extra billion in that alone.

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  • B 27/02/13 #

    Emily O’Reilly tells them the scheme is illegal/unlawfu etc etc and then claims to be surprised when they shut it down. Puuleeease

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  • Stripping out the infrastructure of the country piece by piece.these traitors need to be removed.

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  • I knew it was only a matter of time that the imbeciles in power here tagged on to what their esteemed counterparts in England are doing next they’ll be ruling that people with severe physical and intellectual disabilities will be fit to work, this is beyond reprehensible just when we were left wondering how the government could get any lower

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  • smudge 27/02/13 #

    I wonder why they are announcing all these cuts in a couple of days of each other, get the people angry for a couple of days and they wud get over it next week, I wonder who else r cuts are going to happen in the next few days

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  • She’s as much right to defend that hair colour :/

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  • This move to axe the mobility allowance without first providing an alternative is beyond a disgrace, it’s actually kind of sick. To try and defend this type of action is also indefensible. I feel enraged to feel that this kind of thing can be allowed to happen – we can’t afford it – what a silly silly thing to say! A cynical ploy by an increasingly cynical Government. I spoke to one person today who received a letter from the HSE saying their payment would cease from June 26th. This represents a 20% CUT in income for this man, who is wholly reliant on this payment to get around, to be as independent as he can be, like the rest of us. The payment was means tested so he would not get it had he not deserved it. No explanation, no replacement just mindless drivel from a Labour minister, who is supposed to be a member of a party who protect the vulnerable, who stand up for equity and fairness?! Yeah right! I am incensed, outraged. I just can’t believe it. It’s time we did something about it…. It’s time I did something about it….

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  • People are seeing red over this issue. It is very similar to the medical card for the over 70s. Very wealthy people would have got this allowance if it was left as is.
    New scheme will come in but handled very badly. Political potshots been made. If the did nothing outrage would also be made. It was not the current government they are dealing with the mess left behind

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    • I know god love them they dont have any choice\options\responsibility, its all the other crowds fault.

      Can any of our elected reps take any ownership or responsibility. Bunch of spineless cowards.

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    • Its another intentional diversion so we are kept focused on this and not some other issue.

      Possibly the new annual centi-million euro illegal tax on data transfers that they will push through.

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    • Poor FG and Lab. They canvassed tirelessly in early 2011, telling people that they didn’t want to go into Government. They said they had no solutions. Yet people voted them into power, totally against their will.
      And now, as they didn’t want to go into Government, why should they take any responsibility for their actions? It’s just not fair.

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    • Ronan, don’t forget when the next lot come in, they’ll be blaming the current crowd, and so on and so forth.

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  • censored 27/02/13 #

    Where’s Vincent Dolan? He spent a lot of time yesterday insisting that those who predicted this were just incapable of comprehending the Fool-a-Gael press release. Vincent, we need to tell us this ain’t so.

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