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Proposed legislation would allow judges to refuse home repossessions

Independent TD Stephen Donnelly says he expects his Family Home Protection Bill to be defeated in the Dáil but he hopes it can influence the personal insolvency legislation published by the government last week.

Stephen Donnelly (File photo)
Stephen Donnelly (File photo)
Image: Sasko Lazarov/Photocall Ireland

AN INDEPENDENT TD is proposing legislation that would allow a judge to use his discretion when faced with a lender who is looking to repossess a family home.

Wicklow TD Stephen Donnelly will put forward the Family Home Protection Bill to be debated in the Dáil later today.

The bill would allow for a judge to consider relevant factors such as the background to the loan and any settlement offered by the borrower to the lender. He hopes it will be an added measure to encourage banks to engage more directly with the new personal insolvency process put forward by the government.

“Granting judges this discretion would help adjust the balance of power between the lender and borrower, and would serve society’s interest in encouraging the banks to make realistic write-downs, facilitating families staying in their homes,” the Wicklow deputy said in a statement.

He and a number of economists have put their names to a letter in today’s Irish Times which cites the Constitution as stating: “that in the “control of credit” the State’s “constant and predominant aim” must be the welfare of the people as a whole.”

Donnelly says the government will defeat the bill when it is put to a vote next week but he hopes that his bill can add to a debate about personal insolvency.

Justice Minister Alan Shatter has already published a Personal Insolvency Bill which is intended to give financial institutions a greater incentive to assist struggling mortgage holders in writing off some of their debts. Donnelly said he had met with Shatter recently to discuss his Family Home Protection Bill.

He told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland: “He went through one or two of the clauses in it and he said: ‘Look, this clause and this clause I don’t believe are workable, therefore this bill could not be passed into law now.’

“But this is the first stage in a legislative process. I’m not presenting the bill today as the bill the government should sign into law.”

Donnelly said the debate today would be used as an opportunity to get views from other TDs. He rejected suggestions that it created a moral hazard whereby homeowners could walk away from their obligation even if they could afford to pay their mortgage.

“The moral hazard is that the banks lent a load of money knowing that if the people were in default they could take everything off them,” Donnelly said.

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  • The most refreshing thing about Stephen Donnelly is that he is acting as a national politician, putting forward proposals on national issues and not pandering to local constituency interests that are better dealt with at local government level. More of this please!

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    • Exactly Ciaran. He’s from my constituency and everyone I know (without exception) is well impressed with his approach to his work. From the little I know of his past, I doubt I’d agree with his political ideals, but his integrity is refreshing and encouraging. If only there were more like him there would hope for the future.

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  • Donnelly has been a breath of fresh air for many reasons. Whether its been his comprehensive clear reasoning , fantastic ability to articulate his views/points or simply that he doesn’t come across as a simpleton who doesn’t have a clue about the scripted topic that their expensive PR team put together.

    Put simply he knows his sh*t and he has very well thought out ideas.

    He sort of beings some element of hope that maybe we could have better politicians if only more could get to these kind of public positions. Can’t remember ever thinking “what an ignorant Cnut” in relation to Donnelly, can’t say the same for most of the others.

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  • If Stephen Donnelly set up a political party. I’d say that it would have 10% in 12 months.

    That said there was talk about Micheal McDowell wanting to join in with him, in which case it would be 1% after a year, and half the people who started would have left as Micheal’s unique personality and inter-personal skills shone through

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  • I am very impressed by Stephen Donnelly. Keep up the good work.

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  • Stephen donnelly kicks ass!!
    He’s like a lone voice of sanity in that nut-house that we call the .

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  • Im really impressed with Stephen Donnelly. Was watching him on vincent browne on wednesday just gone.
    he managed to destry that yoke lucinda creighton ( feel nauseous every time i see her ) without playing the political game. Thing is for me, he’s one of the few politicians that i believe. he has the added thing of also being clear, concise without being emotional.
    if he set up a political party i would join. ive never been a member of any party in the past, but he’s an inspiration to me. if, however M mcdowell were to join,,,,Christ allmighty…and ill leave it at that..

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  • Quite obvious why they won’t vote for Stephen’s bill as it would offer protection to the ordinary person as the Judge would be allowed to use human kindness.But we can’t have that,can we,gotta protect the banks against the rabble.

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  • He is the best hope we have, if only the other idiots would listen to him.

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  • Nice to hear some good news for a change

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  • sounds like a realistis tool of balance against over zealous morgage providers.

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  • Missing the point though those fg arseholes wouldn’t pass anything remotely like this bill because it doesn’t suit their banking buddies .. Great idea !!

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  • Donnelly & Ross look like Terrence & Phillip there

    just saying

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  • I applaud Stephen Donnelly’s reminder that we have a constitution (which for the time being is still only slightly gutted and tarnished by the EU treaty amendments), and that it is supposed to guide the Oireachtas in making legislation. The constitutional provision regarding the control of credit is quite specific, and to my mind has been consistently violated by both governments since the infamous signing of the Bank Guarantee. The government’s task, as laid down in Bunreact na hEireann, is to prevent any private interest from gaining such a monopoly that it could hurt or damage the welfare of the people as a whole. The Bank Guarantee and all its bastard children, up to and including the new bankruptcy rules, which still favour banks, are all, by this definition, unconstitutional. Go, Stephen Donnelly.

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  • Tús Nua 06/10/12 #

    The only solution is debt forgiveness i didnt gamble i didnt buy a house but people were led astray by the banks and goverments, in order for the economy to regain strength we need complete debt forgiveness which will allow people to spend again and therefore kick start the economy again

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  • Stephen Donnelly you have my full support

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  • What about people who made money when their house value went up? Isn’t that what a lot of Irish borrowers hoped?

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  • baz 03/02/12 #

    So now we are letting the people who created the “compo nation” be in charge of our austerity! Quick….buy a house!!

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    • No baz. But we’re all in this together. There has to be a debt write off for mortgage holders. Especially those in negative equity. Personally I’d wipe all debt off. Tear up the page and start again.

      We have to put money back in people’s pockets. These banks loaned out fake, numbers on a cimputer screen,unbacked (gold) money out and they expect the public to pay it back with real earned cash. They’re having a laugh. And no I don’t have a mortgage.

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    • If there isn’t wholesale debt write down then there will be little or no growth for the next decade. You want to see what Ireland will be like after another 10 years of this economy.

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    • baz 03/02/12 #

      First off, we’re not all in this together. You live in a house owned by you. I didn’t “gamble”. I’m quite happy to live in a broke country for the next 10 years if it means I’m not paying for your debts.

      Its not only a moral issue, but an austerity issue. If you tax me so bad I can’t buy your houses, or afford to live here, I will join everyone else in leaving, then Ireland really is up shit creek.

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    • baz 03/02/12 #

      Quote: “Personally I’d wipe all debt off. Tear up the page and start again. We have to put money back in people’s pockets.”

      You are only lining YOUR pockets. The people who didn’t gamble won’t get a single thing but eternal debt by writting off your debt.

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    • Baz. If you think people sitting around worrying about their neighbour getting away with a few bob is going to sort out this mess, think again. Could never get my head around the kids who measured the fizzy drinks glasses to check everyone got the same amount.

      And Wrong baz I live in a house rented by me. But I want my country whole again so my children won’t have to be exported to help this shitty government lower their dole numbers, while raising their tourist figure when they come home to visit.

      Seeing as you obviously didn’t read my comment, I repeat. We’re all in this together. Tear up the page and start again!!!

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    • Complete bullshit argument Baz. When these houses are repossessed by banks, who do you think will pay for the evictees social housing? You will!! The bank you have already paid to recapitalise will be the only winner, not you!!

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    • baz 03/02/12 #

      So I get to pay for your 600,000 house or your social housing which you have to pay rent on…let me think! PAY YOUR DEBTS!! I’m too busy paying your bank off that your already screwing! How many other chancers do I have to bail out ?? This country is being deserted because of people who expect someone else to pay for all their gambles that didn’t pay off!

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    • Baz. I gave up talking to the wall when I found this site. No one calls me Ms Valentine anymore. Best of luck to ya.

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  • You must be niave if you don’t think the main topic of conversation for years was how much people paid for their house and what it was now worth.

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