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Column: The financial transaction tax is a must for Ireland’s future

Imagine the difference €500million could make for our ailing health services – yet the Government is opposed, writes Labour MEP Nessa Childers.

Nessa Childers

COULD YOU HAVE imagined it? This is the kind of Europe we now have built for our children.

We have seen the grotesquely overgrown financial sector destroy our economy, caused millions of Europeans to lose their jobs, handed our children billions of euro in bad debts, and yet its leaders evade sanction and even walk away with multi-million euro bonuses.
When after much pressure from the European Parliament, the European Commission proposed a very modest tax on financial transactions on this very same financial sector – many member states refuse to support it.

The UK for example is deeply opposed to the Financial Transaction Tax, which is not surprising given that financial services in the City of London provide more than 50 per cent of the political donations for the ruling Conservative Party.

What is surprising to me is that my own Irish government, in which my own Labour Party is in coalition with the conservative Fine Gael party, is also opposed to the FTT.

Given Ireland’s recent nightmare experience with its financial sector, how could this Irish government take such a stance? The short answer is due to very sophisticated and extensive industry lobbying of government at the highest levels.

How exactly a 0.1 per cent tax on transactions of shares/bonds and 0.01 per cent for derivatives could possibly affect real investment decisions has never been made clear. So far though the lobbying has been very successful and with most of the media unable to process anything other than soundbites, there has been little public debate in Ireland on the FTT.

Have they read it?

Echoing other hesitant governments around Europe, the Irish government claims that the FTT would put Irish jobs in the sector at risk of relocation if the UK does not sign up.
Repetition of this simple but effective industry lobbying argument means the Irish government has not read – or does not wish to read correctly – the Commission proposal. The FTT is structured, most importantly via the “residence principle”, to remove the possibility of relocation and avoidance.

As long as a financial institution anywhere in the world intends to either undertake transactions in the FTT-zone or to serve a European client base it would be deemed to be established in the territory of the member state associated with the transaction (Article 3.1 of the proposal). Therefore a financial institution, even if in New York or Singapore, would have to abandon all its European clients if it wanted to avoid paying the tax. Given that the EU market is the largest in the world this is very unlikely, and as relocation makes no difference, it is also very unlikely.

In its report, the European Parliament added an “issuance principle”, whereby financial institutions located outside the EU would also be obliged to pay the FTT if they traded securities which were originally issued within the EU.

For example, if Siemens shares originally issued in Germany were traded between a Hong Kong firm and one in the US, both would have to pay the tax to the German tax authorities. Under the Commission’s proposals, such transactions would have escaped the tax. The Commission has indicated they will include this extra provision in the new proposal due soon under enhanced co-operation for the at least nine member states willing to sign up.

Lobbying

Of course we need a strong and sustainable financial sector in Ireland, in the UK and across Europe but we do not need dishonest industry lobbying designed to protect private profits. Lobbying on such crucial issues must become much more transparent.

The end effect for Ireland is that the state will lose up to €500 million in badly needed revenue. Irish firms engaged in financial transactions on the European market will still have to pay the tax but just not to the Irish tax authorities.

In Ireland, €13 million would build a new cystic fibrosis unit, €6 million would build a new 30-bed hospital for the care of older people, and €4 million would buy a new cardiac unit in Crumlin Children’s Hospital in Dublin.

This hospital has two specialised machines to provide both cardiac and respiratory support to children whose heart and lungs are so severely damaged that they no longer support life. They cost €200,000 each, and had to be paid for by private donations due to lack of public funding.

Imagine the difference an extra €500 million in revenue from a modest tax on the financial sector would make to the health services in Ireland.

Imagine the difference the estimated €50 billion would make to public services across Europe in the member states, or toward boosting the EU budget.

The kind of Europe we should build for our children is one where at least every person and every sector pay their fair share of taxes. I hope the Irish government, and other member states refusing to tax the financial sector, soon see the error of their ways.

Nessa Childers is a Member of the European Parliament for Ireland East.

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Comments (48 Comments)

  • Yes ms. Childers its gone to the stage where the only things left to tax are christenings, confirmations and funerals. Get real and do something constructive like getting Anglo off the backs of the decent people of Ireland.

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    • The FTT is not a tax on retail banking but on transaction between financial institutions. Many of these transactions are driven by computers at 100s per second, aimed at speculative bets on the market.

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  • So let me get this right, it will be a tax imposed on any trades involving shares from an EU country with the tax going to the originating issuing country!! Since the collapse of our Banks and the moving from the ISEQ to other exchanges of some of our once indigenous PLCs…. This will bring in sfa for Ireland

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    • No, only if one state involved in the transaction is not in the FTT-zone will both firms have to pay to the FTT-zone state. So if Ireland does not sign up, then yes Irish firms will have to pay to the German, French, Italian tax authorities….in addition to the German, French, Italian firm. So we should sign up!

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  • The state governments created the financial crisis not financial institutions. The state created the huge bloated quangosied parasitic entity that it is. The state bailed out bad banks. The state is now levying taxes on people to pay the banks. The state should have done what Iceland did. The EU state is now implementing this policy on a wider and more dictatorial scale.

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  • Seems Nessa is preparing to join Roisin. Great stuff, another woman with balls. In a party where the males don’t have any. That’s the stuff.

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    • Did she do anything yet? No! Populist opinions that prove anything but popular. Nessa needs to attack that goon gilmore and tell him to read labours constitution. Then nessa will rise in stature to that of her ancestor. Doing nothing from the comfort of europe wont cut it I’m afraid.

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    • I wouldn’t say Nessa has read the Labour constitution either, they’re merely a vehicle of convenience for her, she’ll be off to join the shinners next…

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    • Ollie, you havent followed Nessa much obviously….she has very critical of the current leadership.

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    • @ Aidan. I have been following her criticisms of labour. If the lady feels so strongly about these issues why doesn’t she make a stand like penrose, shorthall. Criticism is not good enough. That lady is a high profile member with lots of support. Look the game is up for labour I don’t have anything against nessa but I think if she wants to make real change and save labour the dissenters need to come together and e control. Gilmore is a raving lunatic. This is from a dinner. I’ve nothing against labour members or history but this takes the biscuit.

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  • The financial sector didn’t cause our mess. Poor regulating and, later, poor decisions by Fine Fail did the damage

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  • Money and politcs…as inseperable as death and taxes. The entire European political model is probably rotten to its core…

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  • Death to the Euro, its not what we want for our children’s future. It looks as tho We were duped into joining Europe, for all the wrong reasons. Death to the Euro!!! over & out.

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    • ”Imagine the difference €500million could make for our ailing health services – yet the Government is opposed, writes Labour MEP Nessa Childers”

      Wow Nessa what a difference €500million would make if our inept spineless leaders managed to get any of it spent on its inefficient, extortionate, joke of a health system.

      But tell the truth Nessa, if you do collect this €500million you are only going to give it to bondholder anyway.

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    • the dead duck that is the euro was designed to fail from the start to facilatate the power grab from the franco/german government of the eu .
      we the people of the so-called european union (of which we are supposed to be equals)
      have no say/input , in their future plans for total POWER over every part of our lives,
      they the euro socalled elete,s will push the problems of their mistakes of the past onto other countries that have not had the luxery of being educated by the Borgia,s

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    • Duped into joining Europe? I presume that’s some of your slap stick right there. Out admission into Europe in 73′ brought us out of the dark ages.

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    • @Simon. “Europe in 73 brought us out of the dark ages” fare point. However, we are now at 2012, and as anyone with a bit of a brain can see, Europe is now trying its level best to drag us screaming back into those dark ages once again. I for one, completely reject the idea & devious plans of austerity measures currently being imposed on our people, as being a way out of this man made recession. Best way out, is for Ireland to opt out of the single currency, start printing our own. and for the record, I also denounce a NWO, as promised in the 80s by George Bush Sr. its just NOT going to happen. We won’t let it happen.

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    • Slapstick – follow your idea through and tell us how everything becomes rosy when we start printing our own money?

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  • Why does she think that the Irish government would support a FT tax when the UK ( who are not even in Euro currency ) are so opposed to it…..the explanation in the article avoids tacking the issue that if the transaction tax are only introduced in the EU this will drive business out of the zone , in our case from Dublin to London if UK stays out , and therefor it would be idiotic for an Irish govt to back such a plan. Trying to pitch it as if there’s a magical €500m euro pot of gold just misses the reality of the real impact this new tax will have , as things stand London will not adopt this so in fact we shouldn’t either especially if that remains the case , because to do so would actually bring on more damage to ireland than benefit, something she didn’t expand on in the article.

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    • Dave, this is very simple but effective argument of the finance lobby. However it does not stand up to any scrutiny from anyone who read and understand the structure of the proposal.

      Read the proposal please:

      http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/other_taxes/financial_sector/index_en.htm

      All firms in the UK, Ireland, US, China or anywhere STILL have to pay the FTT if the transaction involves the FTT-zone, which is one of biggest markets in the world. So no avoiding the tax.

      Relocation makes no sense, as avoiding the tax is not possible, so it will not happen. Not signing up just means that state does not get the revenue.

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    • Aidan , I am familiar with the details , I had read the proposal , article 3 dealing with territory is clear as a mechanism to try cover the issue of avoidance if the ftt is accepted and implemented , but it can still only apply to institutions ” resident in the EU” , and the point is that many of the IFSC jobs etc are at risk as other non eu jurisdictions would become more appealing places to establish financial services. It is not the case that “we simply don’t get the money if we don’t sign up” as if there are no down sides, there are genuine significant risks to jobs here with the implementation of a new euro financial transaction tax, especially if as I said the UK remain outside the FTT area.

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    • Hi Dave, that is why the European Parliament added the issuance principal which the Commission have now accepted, to close off further that avoidence risk of firms moving out of the EU. It is explained in the article above. Any firms anywhere is the world who deals with the European market has to pay the tax, regardless of where they are…

      More info:

      http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/pressroom/content/20120523IPR45627/html/Parliament-adopts-ambitious-approach-on-financial-transaction-tax

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    • Thanks Aidan , but again you are still focussing on the mechanic of implementation and ignoring the reality of risks to jobs , as you are probably aware Ireland was not against the principle , it preferred a global implementation , if not then a EU 27 wide scheme ,the UK is staying out and other nations like Sweden , Netherlands also opposed original plan , the Esri here were asked to examine the impact on Ireland , they identified the risks and highlighted that 10% of our GDP and 33000 jobs are derived from financial services and there is real risk , the financial total estimated gain of 500 million , 2/3 of which would go back to eu budget , and the need to scrap the existing 1% share trans tax which is worth over 100m already to ireland means the projected net gains are not as lucrative as suggested —-but the jobs risk to Ireland does exist, so my original point does not change – this is not a simple “sign up and get 500 million” scheme – there are risks and this is why the current approach has been adopted.

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    • The ESRI report is flawed in a number of ways, not least because it was written before the Commission revised its impact assessment and provided more analysis on how the FTT would work. And before the vote in the European Parliament which added the issuance principal.

      Can you explain exactly how any activity would move from Dublin? Given that no matter where in the world a firm is located, if it serves the European market it will still have to pay the FTT.

      The govt is right to be cautious on such important issues, but there has been no public debate and no media attention to a proposal which could be worth serveral millions euro to Ireland.

      Germany & France today started the FTT process by the way…

      http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/28/germany-france-tax-idINB4E8K502520120928

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    • Well its a bit unfair to say the ESRI report is ‘flawed’ , the commission made its changes AFTER that report , the Irish minister for finance did say in the Dail that things have moved on and changes have been made by the commission giving more clarity and details on how the FTT is being implemented. I think one reason that there is little public debate is that this is not a tax that directly impacts the public , it is more aimed at the financial sector and trading so most mainstream media are unlikely to want to engage the public in the reasonable complicated area. The Netherlands have also published a report which indicated that the FTT is not something that effectively impacts or targets the underlying causes of the systemic problems in the sector and may cause a reduction in GDP activity ( at a time that Europe doesn’t need that ) and acknowledges that as a revenue generator it s likely the costs will eventually be passed on to customers of the financial sector and this can have a negative consequence on economic activity. I was not saying all Irish jobs in the financial sector are at risk but merely pointing out that the reason the Govt here is cautious on the matter is that it MAY impact on employment is the sector ( depending of course on how things pan out with the UK etc ). If this was as simple as getting 500M by signing up and without risk you can be sure Noonan and Ireland would have been first in line , the reality is , the G20 rejected it , The US rejected it , the 27 Wide cannot agree a euro wide approach , the UK vehemently oppose it. My original observation on here was that it was being talked about on this forum as if it was simply a matter of sign up and get the 500M , what are we waiting for , the ESRI observations/ risks highlighted are not all mitigated , the Netherlands have also published detailed reasons on why that they believe the FTT has limitations , one of which is that ultimately the costs get passed down to customers of the financial sector eventually and this will lead to a reduction in economic activity -something the euro area does not need in the current climate. They suggest alternative ways to put some costs back onto the financial sector , similarly to here though its unlikely to get much media discussion or public debate as it can be a complex area for public forums.

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  • Idiotic column by someone that doesn’t comprehend that 60% of the worlds hedge funds are domiciled in Dublin and provide huge amounts of employment – let’s raise corporation tax while we are at it and also put a tax on social media – why are these people even given column inches

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  • Taxing shares, bonds and derivatives is inherently fair for the reason that the tax is taken from generated wealth and not from the assets of the poor. People with low incomes are unlikely to be affected significantly so it targets a group who can afford to pay. Which the household charge on sole residence of average, or below average value does not.
    And if it is a measure abhorred by the likes of Cameron and his wealthy Conservative cronies over the water, then that’s almost a glowing endorsement.

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  • Of course we need a financial transaction tax, sure how else are we going to dissuade fund administrators and investment managers from creating employment and wealth in Ireland.

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  • And sure while we’re at it why don’t we double the corporation tax, think of all the lovely lolly sitting in companies that we could use to pay overinlfated salaries to underutilised public sector workers. More of the same – these policies are choking the last gasp of life out of this economy.

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  • Just Leave the Poxy EU, and Leave all the MEP s over in Bruxelles our wherever they are for Arthurs ~Day

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  • without a doubt we need this tax

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    • Ultimately, all taxes are borne by the cosumer.

      “We don’t need new taxes. We need new taxpayers, people that are gainfully employed, making money and paying into the tax system. And then we need a government that has the discipline to take that additional revenue and use it to pay down the debt and never grow it again.”
      Marco Rubio

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    • Too right and the rest. I think its only right that they should contribute to the welfare of the world considering they are doing their best to destroy it. Yeah governments should take some blame and us as well but ultimately it boils down to the money men, they run the show, no doubt about that.

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  • Thanks Neasa for bringing this up. Where is the media?

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  • If I was Siemens I would move my stock market listing to a country where the FTT is not charged so my investors would not have to pay. This tax is not needed. What is needed is for Ireland to realise the Euro is what lead us down this path.

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  • sell the banks

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  • Bring in a Euro zone FTT and watch all the financial jobs move to Switzerland, UK, etc. This might be good for us, we could get rid of the incompetent bankers.

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  • This has all the workings of an MEP trying to get her name in the paper.

    BTW, that photo isn’t of the IFSC, it’s of the PWC building.

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  • We should not have the offspring of British spies involved in Irish affairs.

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