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Four people killed in French school shooting

The incident took place in Toulouse, with French media reporting up to four people dead, including three children. President Nicolas Sarkozy has called it a “frightening tragedy”

Police officers and firefighters gather at the site of a shooting in Toulouse
Police officers and firefighters gather at the site of a shooting in Toulouse
Image: Brunon Martin/AP/Press Association Images

Updated 19.46

A GUNMAN OPENED fire in front of a Jewish school in a southwest French city killing four people, a Toulouse prosecutor said today.

Sky News reports that four people have been killed: a teacher and three children. A fourth is in a serious condition in hospital. It says that the shooter had at least two weapons and shot a religious education teacher (30) and his two sons who were three and six years of age. The man was named locally as Jonathan Sandler.

The adult victim was a 30-year-old rabbi, while two of the children shot dead were his young sons, aged six- and three-years-old. The third child was the eight-year-old daughter of the principal of the school.

A 17-year-old boy was also injured.

The shooter drove away on a scooter, a national police official in Paris told the Associated Press. Police cordoned off the private Ozar Hathora school in the northeast of Toulouse. This is the third motorcycle shooting in a week.

One of the guns used in today’s attack was also fired in the two other deadly shootings, officials said.

President Nicolas Sarkozy called the shootings an “abominable drama” and a “frightening tragedy.” He denounced “the savagery” of today’s attack, and vowed to find the killer or killers. “We will find him,” he said, indicating that he believes there is just one perpetrator.

He went to the site today along with Richard Prasquier, the president of CRIF, the umbrella group representing Jewish organisations.

The shooting occurred about 8.10 am in the same area where a gunman on a motorbike opened fire on three uniformed paratroopers at a bank machine Thursday, killing two and critically wounding the other. The attack in the town of Montauban occurred not far from the soldiers’ barracks.

Four days earlier, a gunman on a motorbike shot and killed another paratrooper in Toulouse, about 50 kilometres away. The Paris prosecutor’s office said it will investigate eventual terrorist links to Monday’s killing and the two killings of paratroopers last week.

Authorities said at the time of the earlier shootings that forensic analysis had shown that the same weapon was used in the Montauban and Toulouse attacks.

A massive manhunt is now underway and the terrorism alert level is raised to its highest level across the area surrounding Toulouse. Security has been increased at schools and synagogues around the country.

- Additional reporting AP and Sinéad O’Carroll

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Comments (49 Comments)

  • Awful tragedy. Why do these nutters target schools?

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  • RIP the poor little angels. What sort of demented evil person does something like this.

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  • Wow! What the hell is wrong with people?? Stop killing innocent people! Families sent their little kids off to school today,within hours they get calls that their child or children may be dead due to shooting????? Unimaginable! Does a shooter ever think “what if someone did this to my child”?? My heart goes out to the parents and other little innocents who witnessed their friends deaths this morning xxxx

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  • A tragic event, and the possibility of a link between these crimes is beyond credible, let’s hope the French police can solve this soon and avoid and further loss of life.

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  • SO the same kind was bullied by paratroopers as well so that’s why he shot them. I’m with Impartial on this one.

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  • How Awful!
    There just is no excuse for this .
    May the victims Rest In Peace,and any one injured have a speedy recovery .
    So this is part of a Serial killer ‘s ”thing”.
    This is so frightening for people .
    I hope the police get the help they need to catch this person and soon.

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  • Francis,

    If I were you, I’d be getting on to the moderators to have your comment removed. Seriously….

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  • Been to France??? Scooters are very popular and motorbikes and scooters are pretty handy getaway transport

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  • *kid*

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  • We don’t know yet who is behind it. It might have just been some lone nutter.

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  • 3 seperat shootings I a week, all within a 30 mile radius done by a lone gunman on a motor bike, it would be naive of the investigators to treat them as seperate incidents that aren’t connected, there could be vital information collected at one crime scene that could help the investigation at another scene etc, however this is a horrendous act of violence the soonerr the person(s) responsible are caught the better

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  • As already said, these scooters are EVERYWHERE in France alone.
    For example: Nice, France, just recently (taken by myself).

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  • If the way people read, absorb and react to ‘news’ is going to be via apps like this then the world is heading into an era of intellectual stagnation. People think they are educated because they might have a technical or science degree but they’re incapable of understanding history or international politics.

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  • This is absolutely tragic no doubt about it, however why does it take something like this to happen in a place like France for there to be such public out cry, the number of innocent men, women and children killed every day in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc etc and so little coverage and out cry! A dead child is unacceptable to me no matter where is happens!

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  • I heard two muslim soldiers were killed in the previous shootings. Had to do a bit of reading to find that out. Why is that?

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    • @ Mike
      In fact there have been three Muslim victims in two distinct attacks (with a seriously injured West Indian victim in the second shooting)
      Maybe there have been less details in Irish reports of these attacks
      Today the killer ran after a little girl who tried to escape running into her school: he caught her by the hair and shot her
      It’s really beyond belief and people in France are completely stunned and gutted by these shootings
      Hoping that the perpetrator will be caught swiftly but where will be the justice for this guy? Seems to be a person who wants to die shot by the forces of law and order rather than be caught. RIP these poor people and their desparing families. Who in the name of God could kill small kids? Unbelievable

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  • Whoever this person is, is a bloody coward!!

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  • John: did I comment on the sect of those killed? Why are you ranting about Israel? You have obviously misunderstood my point, thats ok, it was quite nuanced and seemingly beyond your comprehension. To clarify: I was discussing our different reactions to different victims, I wasnt equating Jews with Israel, in fact I mentioned neither. As for buzz off and go away: seriously? What age are you? Yawn.

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    • Oh my gosh. Do you know how to hit the reply button ?????

      Yes by raising the Gaza issue . You brought up the IDF also .Jesus are you still wetting the shamrock or can’t you remember what you say

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  • I did not equate the Jewish community with Israel, in fact I mentioned neither. I was commenting on the hierarchy of victims that is evident in these comments. To be fair my argument was quite nuanced and reflective so dont worry about misunderstanding.

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    • Hit the reply button seriously.

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    • She’s got you there John, Anton did not equate the Jewish community with Israel just “Muslims in Gaza.”
      Though as I’ve already said what Gaza has to do with, as Anton says herself, “this comment section” is beyond me. I have included a link for anyone who does want to comment on Gaza as opposed thttp://www.thejournal.ie/eamon-gilmore-voices-concern-over-escalating-tensions-in-gaza-and-israel-382148-Mar2012/o the topic on hand.

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    • Brian , she raises the IDF and Gaza. In an article about Jewish children who were killed for being Jews.
      And by bringing up the “Muslims” she is somehow saying . We have sympathy when Muslims are killed we react differently .

      I’d be more concerned by the lack of concern for Syrians. There is a lot of empathy with the people of Gaza. But deaths in a war either Israeli or Gazans is different to the deaths of school children in France and SHOULD not be made out to look like they are which is what she did.

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  • The point being that there were very few comments here last week about the killings in Gaza, the point being that because todays victims were European everybody seems quite outraged, the point being that all human life is equal and all killings deserve equal attention, condemnation, and activism…even the killings of little Muslims in Gaza.

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  • Scumbag Islamic groups are being linked to these and soldiers shootings! Again if and when these murders are caught they should be executed!

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    • (Trying to reply to Mac Ready)

      We don’t know yet who is behind it. It might have just been some lone nutter.

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    • The BBC is saying that the three soldiers shot in the incidents last week were of North African origin. So – assuming the incidents are linked – we’re looking at someone who has a problem with ethnic and religious minorities.

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    • Not necessarily Ciaran, The Paras could have been shot because they were Para’s ie shoot the uniform not the man. The Jewish school could be important but like Impartial says until all the evidence is put together it is just speculation. The other thing is that we may not be privy to all the facts and this leads to endless speculation Look at Mike Turners comment below and see how people can read a few lines and come up with some very strange ideas.

      It could be a group or a lone-wolf and if you wanted to go down the extremist route this is something that AQAP were calling for in it’s web-zine “Inspire” .Indigenous lone wolves that blend in and are harder to catch and the Jewish aspect is important only from the point of view of whether there were other schools nearby and was it the intended target or just a target of opportunity.

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    • It sounds like a copy cat to the Norwegian maniac … To even suggest it is an Islamist at this stage would be just pure Islamohpobic hatred commentary. It sounds like someone who just hates anyone who is either different in color or religeon. Right now, you cant go any further based on what we hacve heard so far.

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    • Sky News commentator says that a possible connection to former neo-nazi ex-Paras is also a possibility.

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    • Thats a really dumb comment. There is as yet no evidence or even indication as to the perpetrators identity. Maybe you should think before you speak.

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    • Anton I reported what a Sky News commentator has said. BBC are also reporting the same thing as there was a scandal involving “17th Airborne Combat Engineering Regiment when photos appeared of three paratroopers making Hitler salutes and posing with a Nazi flag.” http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17428860

      Seeing as Aoife Barry also reported what Sky News said and provided additional reporting from the Associated Press will you be including her in the Dumb category as well?

      PS. You might have missed the part where I said “like Impartial says until all the evidence is put together it is just speculation”

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    • It is much more ‘likely’ to be some kind of Anders Breivk-like psycho, not a islamist fanatic, as the soldiers who were shot last week were from northern Africa and French Antilles…
      Btw, here in France, death penalty has been outlawed since 1981/82… When the guy gets caught, he’ll go die in his prison cell after being prosecuted.

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    • It looks like ultra right wing action to me. So likely to be a white Christian scumbag targeting Jewish and Islamic minorities.

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  • Yes I agree, this was a disgusting attack and should be condemned by all, as should the attacks on Gaza by the IDF over the last two weeks that left children dead and injured…however the silence on this comment section re their deaths is the real disgrace.

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    • What has Gaza got to do with Toulouse in France? What have a father, his two sons and another young boy got to do with IDF actions in Gaza? I think John got his comments in before me.

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    • Thanks Brian. Think mine was removed. Clearly highlighting such disgraceful comments is not allowed. Seems absolutely outrageous my comment was removed when the original comment remains.
      Shame on the lack of free speech. If such outrageous comments can be allowed by the mods .a harsh response should be facilitated.

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    • Ah….Anton Meade. Tell us….should the person or persons who did this be brought to justice? If I recall correctly from the John Demjanjuk thread, you have a problem with people being brought to justice – if those being pursued are Nazi war criminals.

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    • John I think that it was the way you phrased your comment! :-)

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  • Shocking, obviously they are linked and towards paratroopers and not the school or it’s children. Scumbags, taking innocent lives. The religion of the school is irrelevent. Why mention it at all?

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    • Because it may be relevant. Yes it may just be that it was a school and they were targeted only for being kids but their has been rising violence against French Jews for years and while I can’t be certain. I’d same it’s quite likely to be a targeted killing of Jewish children. Most Jewish schools have security unlike other schools. This scooter rider could have targeted another school if he/she wanted an easier target.

      I never forget seeing the Jewish schools in St Kilda in Melbourne or the Garden Synagogue in Cape Town where there is a holocaust museum and thinking it was over the top. Sadly it seems not .

      Jews are still targeted in Europe for being Jews. From Malmo in Sweden where Jews are leaving due to increased abuse and attacks to various parts of France.

      This may be a neo nazi but also European anti semitic attacks have switched from White skin heads to North African and Middle Eastern groups.

      My thoughts are with their families.

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