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TD calls for more security on the Luas Red Line

Fine Gael TD Catherine Byrne has expressed unhappiness with the operators of the Luas but Veolia Transport has said that it has security operating on the Red Line for most of the time it operates.

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A FINE GAEL TD has called for an extra security presence on the Luas Red Line to deal with what she said were “high-levels of anti-social behaviour”.

Catherine Byrne, a TD for Dublin South Central, said that she had written to the Railway Procurement Agency (RPA) to voice her concerns about what she said was “inadequate security” on the Red Line.

Three-quarters of all public disorder cases on the Luas tram service occur on the Red Line which runs from Saggart in south west Dublin to The Point in the city’s docklands.

There was an 11 per cent increase in the number of public disorder cases with 970 instances last year compared to 870 in 2010 on both Luas lines, the trams’ operators Veolia Transport disclosed in January although there was also a 6 per cent increase in the number of passengers.

“Security on the route is clearly inadequate,” Byrne claimed yesterday. “I wrote to the RPA to raise my concerns about this issue, and I have received a response from Veoila, the operator of the Luas.

“While the company acknowledges that anti-social behaviour is taking place, I believe their response does not go far enough.”

Veolia says that the security firm STT Security patrol the Red Line from 10am until the last tram seven days a week and has also said previously that it is working with school children and community groups in order to forge a relationship with them.

Monthly meetings are held between Veolia and the Gardaí to discuss security problems on the tram lines but Byrne said that this was not enough and claimed that Veolia was “passing the buck to the Gardaí on this issue.”

“Luas customers are suffering here; people are feeling threatened and in some cases are avoiding taking the tram as a result. As the private operators of a public service, the company has a responsibility to provide adequate security, day and night,” she said.

Byrne added that she would continue to push Veolia Transport in relation to this issue.

Related: Three-quarters of Luas public disorder cases occur on Red Line

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Comments (39 Comments)

  • I take red line every day, morning and evening. Never had any issues with people trying to attack or rob me but weekly I witness drunks, junkies, drunks/junkies pushing buggies, dirt bags on their way to court, loud and unruly kids, people playing music loudly on their phones, legs and feet all over seats, little kn****rs spraying water canons at each other ….. the list goes on. It’s just unpleasant really. Generally I plug in my earphones and try to do my 40 minute journey each way ignoring it all.

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  • Why has no one mentioned Dublin bus! There’s no security and the anti social behaviour is just as bad.

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  • A day late and a dollar short. This behaviour’s been going on for years. The junkies between Abbey St and Heuston have no fear and nothing to lose.

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  • “TD’s call for more safety on Luas Red Line”

    Commuters call for a Luas on the Luas Red Line!

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  • I say 90% of all the trouble on the red line is down to junkies. The worst place is the Jervis stop were they they just hassle people all day.

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  • Denis 23/03/12 #

    red= danger, green = safe ,Explained!

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  • Need security that will actually do something !

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  • Barry O 23/03/12 #

    Imagine being a tourist on the Luas and going to the Jervis stop seeing all those zombies out of there head! Id never use the tram again

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  • Dave 23/03/12 #

    We need a dedicated “Transport Police” like they have in the UK. Public order can hardly be made the responsibility of a train operator!

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  • Scarr 23/03/12 #

    Luas red line is full of maniacs from out towards tallaght. Not much that’s going to change that. Then you’ve got the junkies getting on at heuston up to the four courts, but it’s ok after that. I’d say you’d be taking your life in your hands getting the red line at night.

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  • I travel on both red and green lines on are regular basis the red line is horrendous drug addicts.homeless drunks used it as a pub terrible when you compare it to the green line which is quiet and relaxing.

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    • Scarr 23/03/12 #

      Haven’t had to get the green line for years but I agree, when it’s quiet it’s great to travel on. Unlike the red, where you’d be afraid to take out an iPhone for fear of instant mugging.

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  • I take the red line from Saggart to James’ every day for work and while I agree there is a problem I’ve never had any trouble. The problem is that once the troublemakers see security they jump off and wait on the next tram! Junkies and general scangers aren’t as stupid as people think!

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  • Lots of scumbags in wealthy areas of Dublin too. They just rob us through our national treasury instead.

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  • A lot of that line is used by commuters travelling to the IFSC / docklands from Heuston so I think you’re avoiding, rather than addressing, the issue there.

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  • I used to take the Red Line to work every day before I switched jobs and refer to it as THE JEREMY KYLE EXPRESS. Just like the participants on that show many people using the Dread Line are so similar to, they are mostly harmless- and honestly: free entertainment included in the ticket price. To be honest, I generally feel a lot unsafer on Dublin Bus or while walking through the city centre. The TD would server her constituents better by suggesting initiatives helping the people in her community to battle addiction, get jobs & have something to do rather than telling VEOLIA how it needs to do its job…

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  • I use the Red Line every morning and evening. I completely agree that it is unpleasant and more of a security presence is definitely needed. However the general sentiment that the only undesirable people in the city live on the Red Line area is absurd. Nearly every part of Dublin is downtrodden in appearance and full of “ghetto” people making a ruckus wherever they go. Cue the angry, emotional responses that Dublin is beautiful and friendly and if I don’t like it I should leave in…3…2…1…

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  • John 23/03/12 #

    Don’t stop at or just divert the Luas away from knacker-agua!

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  • Which are?????

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  • Scarr 23/03/12 #

    I only get the Luas as a last resort as it is effectively like a citizen funded sweeping brush….. It’s moving filth around from one place to another. The only thing I can think of to crack down on it is if the operator has a zero tolerance to dirtbag policy and has security teams at every second station. You pay for that though

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    • And that is one of the reasons why I’m glad the two lines don’t link. They would just stay on till they hit the south side rob us blind and head back to knacker ville. No thanks you can keep your red line all you like, I’m happy with the little gaggling orange oompa loomoas talking like so loud like OMG like on the green line @ Dundrum. This is once time I’m glad the powers that be didn’t have any forward planning!!!

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    • @Ryan. Think you need to double check your geography. The red line is predominantly a southside Dublin line.

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  • I didn’t realise the red Luas line passed by your door Denis?

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  • Im thinking of moving out of my beloved Dublin because its geting to violent I have seen a lot of bad things on the Luas and after 9pm the streets are scary. I dont like to say this but its true.

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  • Totally agree with how rough the ‘Dread’ line is. It’s like resident evil …. it represents everything thats wrong with dublin……..but I would like to see TD’s addressing these social problems on a macro level, and not just on the Luas.

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  • Here’s an idea that I’ve had for some time – gardai and defence forces personnel to travel free on LUAS, IF IN UNIFORM and with possession of service ID.

    Not to make arrests (in the case of DF) but uniformed personnel might reassure other paying punters and there might be a better likelihood of such people being willing to make witness statements etc. when skangers are arrested but claim “dey were doin nuttin” and attempting to stare out punters in a “say anythin and I’ll remember your face” way.

    My understanding is that aggressive begging at certain LUAS ticket machines is also an issue

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  • I live on the red line, does that make me a scumbag?

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  • I used to use the luas but had a run in with a dodgy family on it and avoid it where ever possible since, I take two buses to get to college in tallaght rather than take one luas which only stops around the corner from my house. Whatever Viola spent on security they would recoup 10 fold by making it safe for fare paying customers like me.
    Another bug bear of mine is linked-why do all the Junkies have free travel. Surely this is for the disabled and elderly, not people with self inflicted stupidity.

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  • Aurfur 23/03/12 #

    Ban anti social behaviour for life. Reminds me of the school in the uk that I went to, there was an element of children from a certain area who vandalised the school bus by ripping up the seats. The next day the bus company withdraw service from that area and the kids had to walk several miles to the next available bus stop. That ban was still in force 15 years after the incident when I left that area. Withdraw service to the problem areas simple!

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    • Not quite that simple, these scums are dispersed everywhere over here. In the UK it seems these areas are segregated from each other hence why they could do that.

      A better justice system is the requirement here. People are committing serious crimes, getting caught and let off with silly warnings because we can’t afford to detail them, that is one of the main problem with this country.

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    • I reckon Veolia transport will be offering you a job if they are reading this, how intelligent just withdraw service, never mind the fact that it is a small percentage of people from particular areas that is the problem. Sure punish everyne because of the behaviour of a few.

      I have been on the red line a good few times Heuston Station would be one of the busiest stops, lots of people on and off, generally a couple of scum bags get on but I presume the vast majority are ordinary decent people, should LUAS stop servicing this stop?

      By the way the LUAS is on tracks, it’s not like they can just take a different route.

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  • My thoughts exactly, his comments are always used to wind people up. Most people who are registered on here with fake twitter accounts are generally wind up merchants.

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  • Im not afraid of scumbags with knives or syringes on the luas. Its the ones who wear suits in the dail you need to be careful of!!

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