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Department overpaid teachers and school staff by €1.1 million

The Comptroller & Auditor General says the Department of Education was late in introducing pay cuts to new teachers in 2011.

The Department of Education headquarters in Dublin. The Department did not implement a pay cut for new public servants until last summer - meaning thousands of staff were overpaid.
The Department of Education headquarters in Dublin. The Department did not implement a pay cut for new public servants until last summer - meaning thousands of staff were overpaid.
Image: Sasko Lazarov/Photocall Ireland

THE DEPARTMENT of Education overpaid teachers and other school staff to the tune of €1.1 million last year, because of a seven-month delay in implementing pay cuts for new entrants to the public service, a report has found.

The 2011 annual report of the Comptroller & Auditor General details how a 10 per cent across-the-board pay cut for all new entrants to the public service – which would include teachers getting their first non-substitute job – was not applied until summer 2011.

The pay cut – which formed part of the spending cuts in Budget 2011, announced the previous December – was due to come into effect in January, but about 4,700 staff who began full-time work in schools after that time did not have the cut applied for seven months.

“It took some months for the Department of Education and Skills to determine the terms and conditions relevant to new teacher appointees”, the report states.

Though the pay cuts for new entrants were intended to take effect from January, the Department did not issue a circular to schools giving advice on the new pay grades until June.

The report says the true amount of overpayments is likely to have been even higher, as teachers working in vocational schools are paid directly by those VECs – who would usually rely on Department circulars to advice them of the current pay levels.

Department policy ‘to recover overpayments in full’

About 1,400 primary teachers, 1,600 secondary teachers, and 1,700 non-teaching staff were affected by the problem. The Department of Education told the Comptroller that its policy was to recover the overpayments in full.

An accounting officer from the Department said it had to hold talks with the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to discern the exact impact of the cuts in come cases, and pointed out to the Comptroller that its payroll was particularly complex given the volume of substitute teachers and other temporary staff on its books.

However, the report said that by the start of 2012, the overpaid staff had not yet been contacted – or any arrangements put in place to recover the overpaid salaries.

“While accepting that time would routinely be required to implement budget and other changes in large payrolls,” the report said, “it would have been more efficient had the Department regarded all staff added to the payrolls in 2011 as new entrants and applied the budget reductions to the salaries paid from the beginning of the year”.

All staff who joined the payroll at the Department from September 2011 onwards were paid at the correct, revised, rate.

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Comments (29 Comments)

  • Dismiss whoever is responsible. The Civil Service unions may wish to reimburse the taxpayer.

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    • Rory, you’ve hit the nail on the head there. Nobody can be fired like they can be for such incompetence in the private sector. This is the primary reason why the civil service is at best inefficient but mostly buffoonishly managed.

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  • what you won’t hear about are the tons of teachers who were underpaid what they were due for years that the dept now has to revisit and pay out on! i know of a good few teachers who have been underpaid for three to four years but didn’t realise because they figured it was just the way the pay cuts/pension levy and extra social charges etc went, so much so the dept have hired an I.T company to develop a system to help calculate what people are really due… and we all know how great an idea it is for the civil service to hire I.T companies to develop payment software!

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    • Well said- but isn’t it great news that Enda will be reducing our working week to a mere 40 hours (39 is the current working week- but I guess we will do at least one additional hour per week anyway!!)
      Cheers Enda

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    • Well said- but isn’t it great news that Enda will be reducing our working week to a mere 40 hours (39 is the current working week- but I guess we will do at least one additional hour per week anyway!!)
      Cheers Enda

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    • Well said- but isn’t it great news that Enda will be reducing our working week to a mere 40 hours (39 is the current working week- but I guess we will do at least one additional hour per week anyway!!)
      Cheers Enda

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  • Gross incompetence, that money could had kept around 50 SNA’s employed for the next year. Of course the protected civil servants will carry on regardless.

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    • agreed with you whole heartedly…. it all has to do with common sense really…. if the country is bankrupt we need to be lookin after our few pennies… and those we have should be spent appropriately…. feel sorry for the teachers who now have to pay the money back… but the person responsible needs to held to account…. because there r no winners here… that money is badly needed elsewhere in the education system… yet the teachers r gonna get penalized for a faceless civil servants mistake where that money could be going towards the services that they need to educate the children of this country

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  • The real story is that it only took 7 months because we have the most effective, competent and highly paid public sector workers in Europe. We have to make sure that none of them would be poached away to the private sector, which is always looking for highly qualified people who can act quickly.

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  • What an inept bunch of yahoos. Do you really think the World hasn’t copted onto the fact that persons of authority in this country are incapbable to do their jobs? Why aren’t civil servants fired in this country?

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  • Payment is done by a mix of VEC s, individual schools and Dept of Ed. No one central group of civil servants are responsible. Not as simple as sounds to “fire em all”!

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  • 1.1 million is news if it’s public sector! bankers wiped their arses with this everyday! The people who were overpaid were victims of being in. The wrong job at the wrong time! And remember they would of spent that money back into the economy not invested in the Bahamas!

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  • mike 27/09/12 #

    Strange headline. paid teachers and staff. Teachers are staff. they are all employees of the dept of education.

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  • Yiz are all very harsh demanding immediate firings.
    Who is it that you want fired and should there not first be a process of warning and monitoring before kicking someone out of their job?
    The comparisons to the the private sector are wrong – it is (quite rightly) difficult in the private sector to fire someone especially without going threough a lengthy ‘warnings’ process.

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    • You are absolutly right… There should be a process before a firing. The issue here is that the systems are not in place in most of the civil service jobs. The system should include coaching, reviews and goals for all in employees. Raises and bonus should be performance based. The tragedy is…. The systems that are in place outdated and inefficient.

      The act of firing is cause and effect. Furthermore, there are actions that should require immediate termination. One should be… The inability of fulfilling the role and responsibilities required for a said position.

      I out to you… Why don’t people get fired in Ireland? Why don’t people resign their positions?

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    • censored 28/09/12 #

      Yep, trial first then firing squad.

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  • Barry 27/09/12 #

    I garuntee the people that were overpaid will either pay back the least amount possible over the longest period they can

    Or

    The teacher unions will support them and will threaten action so in the end nobody will pay back anything or they will only pay back a certain percentage

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    • In fairness, the people who were overpaid are not at fault. It’s the idiots in administration who can’t figure out how to implement the exceptionally complicated order to “cut salaries for new entrants by 10%”

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    • siobeli 27/09/12 #

      Sure the teacher unions have completed shafted all new teachers to protect permanent teachers there for years. They will do nothing for the new teachers!
      If I was a new teacher I’d be forming my own union as their own don’t care! While I believe they are over paid, I do think it’s unfair that someone with even 2 years more experience will be paid more for the same job! Should be cuts across the board

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    • €1.1 million divided by 5,000 is €240. We are not talking about thousands of euros here- in fact it’s considerably less than the amounts paid out in politicians’ pensions each year.
      Yes it was sheer incompetence to overpay them in the first place but the scaremongering by our public representatives & the media in an effort to further divide the public & private sectors is the most worrying factor of all.

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  • Ken 27/09/12 #

    It is roughly €250 on average per teacher….probably cost more to collect and administer

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  • WELL I GOT MY LETTER THIS MORNING. WHERE IS IT GOING……INTO R. QUINNS PENSION PLAN!!! ITS WORSE WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN UNEMPLOYED FOR THE LAST YEAR AND CANT GET WORK.

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  • Amazing is how they aren’t observing the figures in real time or at least near time.
    Still not as bad as the guards phone issuing

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