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“The time for burning bondholders is gone”: economists address promissory notes

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IRELAND SHOULD push to defer the repayment of promissory notes, according to economists addressing the Oireachtas Finance Committee today.

Promissory notes are used to access funds in an extraordinary situation when an organisation is not in a position to get a regular loan – such as during the banking crisis of 2008.

“[T]he only reason the banks are solvent and liquid in the technical sense of those words is because of the largesse of the Minister for Finance,” UL economist Stephen Kinsella said.

In his presentation to the committee,  Kinsella said that Ireland’s banking system comprises three main liabilities: repaying remaining senior bondholders, repaying promissory notes, and the state’s unfolding mortgage crisis. Promissory notes accounted for one-fifth (21 per cent) of the state’s €148 billion debt in 2010.

UCD economist Karl Whelan said that, effectively, the state will repay the promissory notes issued to support Anglo and Irish Nationwide (now amalgamated as IBRC) at a rate of approximately €3.1b per annum over the next 15 years.

Meanwhile, Trinity College economist Brian Lucey said the promissory notes are not sovereign bonds and restructuring or cancelling them cannot in any way be seen as defaulting on a sovereign bond. He said that Ireland could write them off – but would need approval from the ECB, which is unlikely.

However, Lucey later added that there is no mechanism to throw Ireland out of the EU and that the threat to cut off Ireland’s liquidity is a threat that seems unlikely to be realised.

Whelan said that the most effective way to ease the burden of the notes is to defer payments for a number of years until, for example, Ireland’s GDP has hit a pre-crisis level. If this is not possible, then Ireland should push to have the notes replaced by new notes that have a lower interest rate which would enable the state to pay off IBRC more quickly.

Lucey agreed that deferral is a good option in the circumstances, saying: “Europe in general and Ireland in particular excelled at the national sports of can-kicking… and we should consider doing it again in delaying the repayments.”

There’s significant value in waiting to see what happens, he said, but his preferred option is for us to get rid of the notes as soon as possible.

“The time for burning bondholders is gone,” he said, “we may decry that, but that’s a fact”.

Scale

Stephen Kinsella said it was important to understand the scale of the repayments, and the different between the promissory notes and bond repayments.

The cost of the promissory note repayment is €3.085 billion a year, he said, and it becomes sovereign debt as we pay it off because we pay for it either with taxes or with borrowed money. Given the level of tax revenue, we need to borrow to pay.

“We can all see how monstrous this amount of debt is,” he said.

Two banks became insolvent and couldn’t access their funds in the normal way so these promissory were created to save the banking debts of a particular type of lending through a particular period of Irish banking. However, he said, we will be paying them off with our borrowings.

Kinsella said the focus should now be on how burden-sharing can be carried out as credibly as possible. He also said the ECB’s statements of intent should not by treated as synonymous with how they will act in the future.

The next €3.1bn payment on the promissory notes is due on 31 March.

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  • jimbo 15/02/12 #
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    More bullsh1te

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  • Frank McMahon 15/02/12 #
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    one fifth of €150 billion = still completely screwed

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  • Martin Dorgan 15/02/12 #
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    All countries in the euro zone should have the interest rate capped at 1 % to enable the debt to be repaid . The interest rate in Greece is horrendous and for the solidarity of the EU they should be supported in reducing the rate of Interest to a minimum . We are in quare times

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  • Frank McMahon 15/02/12 #
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    “Europe in general and Ireland in particular excelled at the national sports of can-kicking… and we should consider doing it again in delaying the repayments.”

    this sentence is astounding

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  • D Burns 15/02/12 #
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    There is no solidarity within the EU, unfortunately. Money is the religion of the people pulling the strings in the EU and they will squeeze us all for every last penny!

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  • Brian Houlihan 15/02/12 #
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    Seeing as FG/Lab are good at breaking promises they make how about they show some backbone and get a reduction.

    If we fail, they all fail. This whole they’ll leave us outside the markets is nonsense as they want their money or at least a part of it back regardless.

    http://brianpolitics.wordpress.com

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  • Sean O'Keeffe 15/02/12 #
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    Stephen Donnelly’s account of the origins of the promissory notes makes for interesting reading.
    Manufactured funds from the Central bank. Which are to be returned to the central bank by our taxpayers and then returned to thin air. All charged at an onerous interest rate.
    http://www.stephendonnelly.ie/featured/how-the-promissory-notes-work/

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  • Jeff Kennedy 15/02/12 #
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    Here’s what should have happened :Let anglo go bust buy its assets for buttons then chuck a couple of billion into it and run it as a bank not a retarded branch of Paddy Power then sell it for profit ,but instead we pay billions to Wall st wankers who bet and lost fair n square.

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  • Sean McNally 15/02/12 #
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    Ireland’s ‘banking system’. The oxymoron of the millennium.

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  • Derek Durkin 15/02/12 #
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    Bloody economists and their free market freidman way of thinking is as much to blame for this mess.

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  • Peter Barrins 15/02/12 #
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    Given the way the funding attached to these promissory notes works why is there an interest charge? I don’t quite get it.

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  • Gerry Ryan 15/02/12 #
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    March 31st should be marked by the new peasantry, i.e. the citizens of this state, as the first day of the rest of our national life.
    We were promised a constitutional review and some of us hoped for a 2nd Republic but thats just another lie.
    If we dont force it then NOTHING at all will change about this place.

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  • brian lucey 15/02/12 #
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    Jumbo
    Why bullshite?
    Derek
    I suspect you might be thinking of some other three economists….
    Peter
    There is no reason…read the three briefing notes…

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  • Dave Garrett 15/02/12 #
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    The promissory notes should be dropped kicked to touch full stop and put it up to the ECB.

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  • Adam Magari 15/02/12 #
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    A storm has been whipping the house but all concerned focus on a broken pane of glass and fail to notice that the front and back doors have been blown off their hinges. It would great if we could all cancel a fifth of our debt overnight on the say so of a few academics, but I don’t think so.

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  • Diarmaid Twomey 15/02/12 #
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    Am I stupid or should the ecb not be contributing towards our bank debt? I mean our whole problem centres around bank debt. Our whole problem with lessening the burden on this debt is the ecb s stance on us reducing it. So if they are the only ones in the way of us having a sustainable level of debt, surely be to god, it’s time for ole mario to put his hand in his pocket.

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  • John Mooney 15/02/12 #
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    Play Golf or go boozing with a Government Minister, make reckless investments and not loose a cent and even make a profit on a loss. Jesus Paddy what country, it’s fantastic.

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