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LAST UPDATE | 11 Nov 2024
TRUMP’S VICTORY IN the US presidential election marked November 6th as a bad day for public health. With his lack of support for robust public health infrastructure, his trampling all over the climate, social and environmental impacts of big business, and his support of the market at any cost, the outlook for health and well-being under his leadership looks bleak.
In contrast, November 7th was a spectacularly good day for public health. Minister for Health, Stephen Donnelly announced the passing of legislation that will increase the minimum legal age of the sale of tobacco products to 21 years of age. On enactment, Ireland will become the first country in the EU to raise its age of sale to 21, helping young people avoid a lifetime of addiction and illness that tobacco smoking brings. The measure is hoped to accelerate the decline in adult smoking, which has remained at 18% for several years, and to reduce smoking prevalence among children to zero.
Minister Donnelly said that Ireland has been a world leader in tackling smoking, beginning with the workplace smoking ban in 2004 and continuing with ‘a range of measures including restrictions around the sale, advertising and packaging of smoking products to make them less attractive and less available to people.’
On the same day, a second pronouncement of major portent helped to quell some of the despair felt at the prospect of four years of Donald Trump at the helm in the US.
Australian Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese announced that before the end of 2024, legislation would be introduced to ensure that Australian teens will have to be 16 or older to use online social media. Even better, the government will hold platforms responsible and accountable to ensure compliance.
This move would finally see one government showing the political courage to protect children and young teens that could act as a template for governments across the globe, including the Irish government to follow suit. The ripple of concern about teen access to social media is gaining momentum and not a moment too soon.
The new legislation would ensure that social media platforms would be penalised for breaching the age limit, but underage children and their parents would not.
‘Social media is doing harm to our kids and I’m calling time on it,’ the Prime Minister said, adding that the legislation would take effect 12 months after the law had passed.
‘The onus will be on social media platforms to demonstrate they are taking reasonable steps to prevent access. The onus won’t be on parents or young people,’ Mr Albanese said.
Head of Safety at Meta, Antigone Davis, the company behind Facebook and Instagram said its platforms would respect any age limitations the government wanted to introduce while predictably suggesting that it might be better if parents controlled the apps that their children can use, that would be a ‘simple and effective solution.’
Elon Musk’s X (formerly Twitter) did not immediately respond to a request for comment and TikTok declined to comment.
Last September, UK TV Presenter Kirstie Allsopp caused a media storm for allowing her teenage son to go inter-railing around Europe, suggesting that children are being exposed to more dangers on their mobile phones than they could ever be through travel.
In defence of her actions, she referred to Jonathan Haidt, author of the New York Times bestseller The Anxious Generation where the social psychologist suggested that the toxic combination of mobile phones and risk-averse parenting are at the root of plummeting mental health in teens and young adults.
‘Technology has created a great rewiring of childhood,’ Haidt said.
‘Think of all the exciting things you ever did. Think of all the trouble you got in. Think of all the adventures you had. Think of all the flirting, the fun. Now take 80 per cent of it and replace it with screen time. And that’s kind of what happened to people born after 1995.’
Online pornography is a real and very disturbing issue when it comes to access to social media. A paper published by the UK Children’s Commissioner last year made very clear the extent of the problem. The report does not make for easy reading, but the Commissioner said, ‘nor should it.’
The report stated; ‘I truly believe we will look back in 20 years and be shocked by the content to which children were exposed. Let me be absolutely clear: online pornography is not equivalent to a ‘top shelf’ magazine. The adult content parents may have accessed in their youth could be considered ‘quaint’ in comparison to today’s world of online pornography. Depictions of degradation, sexual coercion and aggression are commonplace and disproportionately targeted against teenage girls.’
The average age at which children first see pornography is 13. By age nine, one in ten had seen pornography. This increased to one in four (27%) by age 11 and one in two by age 13.
The majority had encountered violent pornography by age 18. Twitter (now X) was the online platform where it was most likely encountered by young people. Other mainstream platforms, Instagram and Snapchat ‘rank closely after dedicated pornography sites.’
With this type of data emerging from young people themselves, we are deluding ourselves when we listen to mainstream social media platforms suggesting that their content is not harming young teens.
Prof Haidt states that the evidence is very clear: 13, the current (and unenforced) minimum age for opening an account on social media platforms, is too low.
Apart from access to pornography, since the iPhone release in 2007, teens changed from tapping out messages to friends mainly one person at a time to ‘spending most of their waking hours consuming content from strangers as well as friends, playing mobile games, watching videos and posting on social media.’
This means losing out on all those other skills, experiences, interactions, brain connections and life lessons that are a vital part of progression into mature adulthood.
Robust age verification measures would take the very real pressure off parents to allow their kids and teens access to social media, to ensure they are not excluded from social activities that everyone else is involved in. Teens won’t feel excluded if everyone else is in the same boat.
A level playing field where no young teenagers are on social media takes the pressure off everyone – teenagers and parents alike.
Global markets are supported by governments to drive growth. But growth must be tempered by wellbeing for every age, income group and ethnicity. Prime Minister Albanese has set the ball rolling for governments across the globe to mandate social media platforms to protect teenagers from access to social media.
Our government leaders have shown leadership and political courage in taking on the impact of tobacco on the health of young teens by raising the legal age of smoking from 18 to 21.
It is time for a similar level of exuberance and political ambition to ensure that online platforms are mandated to protect young teenagers from the irrevocable harms to mental health that ensue from unrestricted access to social media.
Dr Catherine Conlon is a public health doctor and former director of human health and nutrition, safefood.
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We say we want to change the situation about mental health. But in my experience – most people who aren’t affected by it rarely go beyond token gestures.
The sad reality for most people struggling is that they’ll receive apathy from their doctor, and a bottle of pills. If you’re lucky and have money, you’ll be able to afford a good counsellor who will help you with the likes of CBT. For others, they could be waiting a while to see a counsellor – and even at that, it’s still never enough to combat this illness. Most people struggling with depression feel lost, and they don’t really know what to do about it.
Yeah, you can tell people to go to support groups – but for a lot of people, the mere idea of sitting down with strangers is a horrifying experience. It just isn’t that easy when you feel uncomfortable in your own skin. And so many people who have depression, don’t even know it. I thought it was normal to feel down and empty. Just “one of those days”, which came around far too often for my comfort. It was an endocrinologist who told me I needed to get help. Not my GP, not the array of health specialists I’ve see in the past decade. An endocrinologist.
All the support and pills in the world still won’t end the pain for so many people. Until we take mental health as serious as physical health, we’ll never really overcome it. I’m only 33, and I know way too many people who have taken their own life at my age than I should. I’ve watched the system fail people, and fail them horrifically.
I get tired posting about this issue, because every year that passes – we’re still not making any progress.
Some advice. Don’t tell someone to cheer up. We can’t flick a switch. Don’t say stupid things like “Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem”. Depression isn’t a temporary problem, it’s a life-long problem.
Text a friend if they’ve been awol for a few months. If they don’t leave their house much, it’s for a reason.
And most importantly – be kind.
Sean..thank you.
Thank you Sean o Brian because you understand. People try their best but don’t get it.
Very well said. For all the empathy at best, and the disregard at worst, the situation can only hope to change when mental health is considered as important as physical. Unfortunately certain preconceptions continue to ensure that will not happen anytime soon
That’s stigma Suzanne. A person can have a masters degree in science but if they have anxiety or depression and is struggling then they are mentally weak.
“We don’t even know who our enemy is” what a powerful statement.
When the people you vote for, end up not representing you….the feeling of betrayal and powerlessness is bitter.
Well said Al
When you have a dysfunctional political system, which we have, we end up with dysfunctional all the way through our services.
Dysfunctional Police Service – Check (despite some excellent guards)
Dysfunctional Health Service – Check
Dysfunctional Legal Sector – Check (hence all the people with multiple convictions)
Dysfunctional Transport System – Check
Dysfunctional Education System – Check (too many students in portocabins)
We also have an unhealthy wealth divide, which is at its most obvious in Dublin/Cork and Limerick.
It’s no wonder we are in the middle of a suicide epidemic.
God that’s a depressing assessment. He’s right though their 20′s have been robbed. I’m kind of lucky in that when I went to college there was an unbelievable buzz around the country. The youth of this country have been well and truly sacrificed
The right wing of Goldman Sachs et al: the European Peoples Party (EU) Fine Gael, Labour, Fianna Fail and a few Independents are the enemy of the ordinary people
Willie O Dea!
Well… one major enemy of the ordinary citizens, and especially our youth, are the charlatans of the mainstream macro economics academe who have presided over a system which is guaranteed to produce economic instability and mass unemployment. (Most especially in the Eurozone, with around twice the unemployment of any comparable economies.)
Essentially, pandering to intellectual fraud and taking over where religious orders left off.
Let me just explain one thing….
In a system that uses a fiat currency, produced from thin air, by definition, there can NEVER be a shortage of *finance* to stimulate economic growth and provide (near) full employment.
The ONLY constraint, to avoid an inflationary spiral, is that there must be sufficient available real resources – labour and materials – at the moment of the transaction (spending).
Which means, by definition, there need NEVER be anyone unemployed, who need not be. A – strictly voluntary (no slave labour coercion) – Job Guarantee, at the bottom of the ‘market’, with one weekly weekly ‘minimum wage’ rate, working at social and community tasks, could be available to any who want it.
This would be especially beneficial to the younger people who disproportionately bear the brunt of job losses in an economic downturn.
And not just at ‘no cost’ to a anyone, but in fact with a two fold benefit to all of us.
The economic stimulus effect of new spending into a recessionary part of the economic cycle, which will help to restore ‘normal’ private sector activity and jobs. (In the macro economics jargon, an ‘automatic stabiliser’ effect.)
Secondly, a social benefit of the JG labour giving a helping hand to community projects that we might not consider ‘affordable’ during periods of strong ‘normal’ private sector labour demand.
There is only one reason this sensible recognition and use of the actual monetary and macro economic system (with fiat money), that we already have, is not utilised in this way – POLITICAL WILL. There is no other barrier.
And that lack of political will is born of a deeply fraudulent system of ‘democracy’ that instead of representing the majority interests of the citizens – the labour class – actually exclusively represents the interests of the minority Capital owning class.
A Capital owning class who have moved mountains in order to keep the masses from realising that *money* in a system of fiat, free floating currencies, created by governments’ decree on Central Bank computers, can NEVER be in short supply. EVER.
In such a system, the constraint is always REAL RESOURCE availability for purchase. Nothing else.
For those interested, this is explained by MMT economics, with a body of academic development work going back many decades, as far back as the 1920s at least. (Tho’ ‘free floating’ fiat currencies were not adopted in US and Europe etc. until the Bretton Woods post war fixed exchange rate treaty collapsed in 1971.)
This guy’s walking down a street when he falls in a hole. The walls are so steep, he can’t get out. A doctor passes by, and the guy shouts up, “Hey you, can you help me out?” The doctor writes a prescription, throws it down in the hole and moves on. Then a priest comes along, and the guy shouts up “Father, I’m down in this hole, can you help me out?” The priest writes out a prayer, throws it down in the hole and moves on. Then a friend walks by. “Hey Joe, it’s me, can you help me out?” And the friend jumps in the hole. Our guy says, “Are you stupid? Now we’re both down here.” The friend says, “Yeah, but I’ve been down here before, and I know the way out.”
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Hmm!
Frontrowbrian, for a moment I thought you were being sincere, until I found an earlier one of your posts I thought I’d seen in another article.
I realise that you are just another keyboard knob.
Sadly Brian, for some the only way out is down and out, either literally or figuratively.
Excellent Dave. Thank you!!
Its pretty sad that on the centenary of the Rising a comedian has to go on Channel 4 to highlight suicide in Ireland.
He didn’t have to. The brits are paying him top dollar so he said he might as well. Kinda a 1up on them for hundred years ago.
It’s nothing new, sure when Vincent Brown was tearing Mario Draghi a new one over the bailout in Dublin a few year ago RTE felt what whole country really needed to see and hear was Dobbo (on €195,000 per year!) back in Donnybrook studios, meanwhile anybody that have a damn about the truth had to switch from OUR national station we’re ALL supposed to pay €160 a year for (even if we don’t own a fuppin TV!) and instead tune into the BBC news live to catch the awkward squirming Draghi insult us all on our soil!!
Great point. I was watching that and noticed how rte just pulled the plug. Was strange so switched to sky news and saw the rest of it
It’s not only young people taking their lives it’s older men who make up the biggest group to take such an awful decision. Please focus on all victims of this epidemic not just one age group
Every life is equally important but the reason people focus on younger males is because most statistics show that they are the higher risk and the most likely to commit suicide.
No they’re not …older men are
Blindboy is very intelligent,insightful and funny thats why the rubberbandits are on channel four.
i also blame people, society, begrudgers, competitive streak grown from recession is worse now. theres some amount of bullying going on in this country, for men, women, young and old, not just child bullying. they have no idea the affect they have on people with their behaviour. what counsellor or pill resolves that when theres nothing done about it for adults but just laughed at or avoided?
Defiantly agree with this. Its a real problem in big town communities and Small towns. The Adult bulling thats around is crazy. People can just gang up on someone and there could be a host of vicous rumers going around about them in no time at all. So childish but it affects people in terrible ways.
The man speaks well. Simple and effective. Bag gives a sense of mystery. Channel 4 can’t get enough.
Investing in Mental health will only cost the government money there is no means to profit from it hence a delayed uninterested reaction. Road deaths allowed there to be a measurable income via penalty points system and NCT and improving car worthiness and it has been successful in decreasing deaths massively while turning a profit..need to accept mental health is simply something you have to give up and offer
What a load of complete waffle..keep the bag on..suicide was around long before the celtic tiger..
But it’s increased which may be the point you are missing or deigning……
Really? Tell me more you complete and utter troll
Kerry has it..it’s just spoken about more.
There are more suicides than car accidents now. Accidents just happen..but our own taking their own lives, that does not just happen. We need to be more open about this. We need to stop it
It sure was Sparky. Nothing was done about it then and nothing is been done about it now. Speaking about it is a good thing. Maybe you think we should just be Men about it and dig our heads in the sand is it?
No not at all Vincent. But they related suicide to the celtic tiger in this article. That’s my point..it’s deeper than that .
There are lots of people battling with depression for many reasons sparky and believe me I know suicide was around long before the celtic tiger, but maybe he is just expressing the circumstances that he sees contributing to young people’s reasons for losing a sense of any kind of hope or chance for them in the future? In honesty I’m not sure he is right as I really think that each and every person has specific reasons and it isn’t necessarily to do with a national outlook or economical situation. Though the national economical situation has certainly played a part in denying people the help they need to battle it. Or rather now our society has an economical excuse to ignore people who need help. I’ve lived with this condition for as long as I remember but for the first 25 years or so I assumed all people felt this all consuming emptiness and bleakness that I felt so strongly that I could barely function. I’ve found ways to manage it, sometimes they work and sometimes they don’t, when they don’t I just battle on knowing that everything changes, even this and so this too shall pass.
Look, pea brain ‘sparky’, there exists a century or more of research data that ALL shows a substantial increase of all social ills resulting from the pressures of economic recession/depression, including suicides.
Those are the facts.
Does suicide exist at other times – yes it does. Is it increased by poverty level economic pressures? Yes, absolutely.
So who’s agenda are persuing here trying to tell people lies? Or are you just stupid and couldn’t be bothered to look for any evidence about it before commenting?
“We don’t even know who our enemy is”… The problem of today’s young people, the legacy of corruption.. Brilliantly put.
We are the enemy. We are the ones who vote for politicians incapable of doing the job they put themselves up for. A decade of bad polices implemented by incompetent politicians.
@John Kinsella: Then run for election. You have that right.
People say it’s our fault for voting them in, it’s other people’s faults for not voting. Voting genuinely makes no difference any more. The game is rigged against us. There’s only two ways to go, if you ask me. Either we accept the reality of this new kind of feudal system, or we take it down. People are too afraid of the chaos and economic ramifications there would be in the aftermath, but you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs. It’s high time we grew balls and ovaries, and pulled the plug.
We have Blindboy, Brezzie, and so many others talking about suicide and mental health… but nothing really changes in terms of services in Ireland for young people with mental health issues.
It’s a ****ing disgrace.
Blind Boy says nothing to me about my life. A total charlatan.
Wow,that’s not self certification tried at all
Reported my own comment for autocorrect errors. Meant to call you self centred
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This insane plastic Supervalu bag over the head is utterly ridiculous and always has been, just take it off and have yourselves taken more seriously on sensitive topics like suicide.
No, because the “insane plastic bag” allows him to decide when he talks. If he didn’t have the bag he’d be pestered morning, none and night. It’s like the old school ‘on air’ sign at a radii station. Also it’s quite possible that he has anxiety issues.
I didnt notice the bag, I was listening to what he was saying …
As a twenty something I’ve had 5 former classmates take their own lives and half of those left emigrated. Many others vanished off the radar, I wonder how many are struggling with depression. It was always something I accepted as a normal part of growing up though hearing the likes of blindboy raising it helps me realise how the experience of this generation has been anything but and it shouldn’t be so readily accepted by society.
…”we don’t see a future and we don’t even know who our enemy is.”
.. ‘enemy’ .. how about “apathy” – ticking the wrong box in the Polling Booth or not even arsed to go and vote – 40% dont! Ireland is not a functioning Democracy (100 yrs later) evidenced by repeated crashes and 300,000 thrown overboard to OZ, Canada etc. Next time bring your brains to the Polling Booths.
Ireland GDP €203 billion – 4.6 million supported by wealth created.
Portugal GDP €203 billion – 10.3 million supported by wealth created.
Have to say I was away for the hype and their musical
Start but have listened to a few of his interviews, most notably with Scroobius Pip and his take on Irish society is bang on the money
More suicides here in a few years compared to the conflict in N. Ireland and the government only says yes to Merkel, Troika and the IMF, WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT IGNORING THIS???
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