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'Tax on women': GPs charging for 'free' maternity appointments, despite HSE guidelines

Multiple women say they were charged €70 for basic appointments that are meant to be covered by the State.

SOME DOCTORS HAVE been accused of wrongly charging women for their maternity care, contradicting the free scheme under the HSE.  

Multiple women who spoke to The Journal said they were charged €70 for basic appointments that are meant to be covered by the State.

One woman described how she had to pay for four GP appointments during her pregnancy, while another with a history of miscarriages said that her GP charged her because he said he wouldn’t get the HSE fee if she had another miscarriage.

Included in the Maternity and Infant Care Scheme is an initial examination, and five further appointments, which alternate between GP visits and maternity hospital visits.

‘Tax on women’

Caroline experienced fertility issues and multiple miscarriages, which her doctor was aware of.

When she became pregnant again, she visited her GP in South Dublin, where she was asked to pay €70.

She says the doctor told her that she was charged because, in the event she miscarried again, he wouldn’t get paid by the HSE for providing the full scheme. 

Under the scheme, GPs get paid €38.42 for the first visit and €27.67 for any after that.

In a statement to The Journal, the HSE said: “Where complete services are provided, a fee of €242.85 is payable to GPs for first pregnancies and €270.52 for all other pregnancies.

“Each element of the total fee will be paid on the basis of the professional service provided, i.e. no payment will be made where the appropriate professional service is not provided.”

The €70 appointment involved very little, said Caroline, as a pregnancy test wasn’t required. She’d had an early scan to check on the health of the baby due to her history, but was under the impression she still had to attend her GP so that she could choose a maternity care package.

She said the doctor was “blunt” with her about the reasoning behind the charge, despite knowing her previous experiences of pregnancy. 

“You’re in a very vulnerable situation … it really feels like some GPs take advantage of that.”

Caroline compared the charges to a “tax on women”. The disparity in fees and information provided to women has caused inequity, she says.

“There has to be conformity across the board, so that different women aren’t getting different levels of care or different financial penalties.”

Registration fees?

Regardless of whether women have a medical card or GP card, they are entitled to the scheme.

Deirdre told The Journal that she paid for four GP appointments during her pregnancy.

“I paid €70 to get confirmation that I was pregnant, which I already knew. In fact, the GP just confirmed it on the basis of me having said I weed on a stick and that I hadn’t had a period in eight weeks.

“[The doctor] then explained private versus public maternity care – which a quick Google had already explained.”

Deirdre says she was told the scheme didn’t cover the first appointment.

This is contrary to the information on the HSE’s website, which states: “If you are pregnant and you are ordinarily resident in Ireland you are entitled to free maternity care under the Maternity and Infant Care Scheme.

“The diagnosis of pregnancy forms part of the Scheme.”

Rachel told The Journal that she was also charged for her first appointment.

“The receptionist firstly tried to tell me that the appointment was charged for to ‘confirm my pregnancy’. I told them I already knew I was pregnant and that I wasn’t paying a full GP charge for a pregnancy test. 

“The receptionist then tried to tell me that the first appointment was actually charged to ‘register me with the maternity hospital’ and to sign me up for the ‘combined care’.

Rachel says she had already registered with a maternity hospital online for free and scheduled an appointment with them.

“The receptionist was visibly uncomfortable with my questioning and left her desk and didn’t return. As I was refusing to pay, I left the practice.”

Women also reported being charged for appointments for minor illnesses that they believe were connected to being pregnant.

However, the HSE said: “Care in respect of illnesses which are co-incidental with but not related to pregnancy do not form part of the Scheme.

“Where additional visits are required by patients suffering from major conditions e.g. diabetes, hypertension, a fee of €27.67 per visit, subject to a maximum of five visits, will be paid.”

Review and refunds

Social Democrats leader Holly Cairns called for an “immediate review” by the HSE of these complaints.

“If it is found that eligible patients have been wrongly charged then full refunds must be issued without delay,” she said.

“It is difficult to understand why expectant mothers would be charged for prenatal visits when virtually all GPs have agreements with the HSE to provide services under the Maternity and Infant Care Scheme.”

She said that Health Minister Stephen Donnelly should issue updated instructions to GPs.

“This incident highlights the urgent need for the full implementation of Sláintecare. These kind of situations would not arise under a universal healthcare system where everyone would be able to access the care they need without charge,” Cairns added.

The Labour Party’s health spokesperson Duncan Smith said that the situation is unacceptable. 

“One of the fundamental pillars of our health system which we can be proud of is free Maternity Care.

“I’m am astonished that any GP would make a mistake in this regard.

He also called for the women affected to be refunded, and for a reporting mechanism to be put in place to prevent future issues. 

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    Sep 27th 2015, 6:12 PM

    We have the other extreme here. Damned if do. Damned if you don’t. The fact is heroin destroys families. They should of thought of that when selling the horrible stuff.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 6:36 PM

    You’ll find that the majority, if not all, these inmates have come from broken homes and deprived communities where they sold drugs to survive. It’s nasty and yes they were part of the cycle that they themselves were trapped in but Obama is acknowledging that solution involve them; much in the same way Mo Molam knew the peace process in NI had to involve inmates in British prisons.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 6:42 PM

    Why is Obama doing this at the end of his term instead of at the beginning? The US prison population stands at over 2million. That’s more than China has incarcerated. It’s almost 2.5 times more than Russia has in prison.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 7:00 PM

    the vast majority of prisons in the US are privately owned, run foe profit and care more about the bottom line than society. barry is an actor..reading off a script and being told what to do, as badly as drugs have messed up parts of society unpunished white collar crime and the burden it has put on society has damaged it a lot more.
    in america there is a prison industrial complex,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thats the problem.
    here there are yobos with 17 previous convictions walking free and committing more serious crimes because the justice system is far to lenient on them. the legal system does not mind, its a big cash cow for them.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 6:14 PM

    Obama is a good actor and that’s all. It is well established fact that since he took office his administration has refused more freedom of information requests than other other administration in US history. And if he gave two shits about ‘non-violent crimes’ then he’d have long arranged for Snowden to come home and would have intervened in the Bradley Manning case as he could have done at any time.

    He’s a liar, and has done nothing but further liberalise US laws (which is why most of these guys are in prison in the first place).

    Hilary Clinton is far worse than he and if she makes it in it’s bye bye US.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 6:34 PM

    OK idiot. Restored pride to US after years of Bush’s wrath. A true statesman. Agree with you about Hillary though. I hope Sanders wins

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    Sep 27th 2015, 6:43 PM

    Try making a point like an adult and I might respond to you. Other than that. Take a hike.

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    Sep 28th 2015, 8:32 AM

    you just replied to him.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 6:41 PM

    My heart is bleeding purple piss reading the sob stories.
    If anything our Judiciary here could learn a thing or two from US Judges about sentencing and the whole US legal system.
    Instead of having Solicitors and Barristers they have just one set Lawyers who deal with your case from start to finish. Where there is a dedicated Prosecution Service staffed by full time Prosecution Lawyers and a dedicated Public Defenders Office staffed with full time Defence Lawyers for those that would normally get free legal aid here. And then Private Legal Firms for those that can afford them.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 7:38 PM

    Yes because there is so little crime in the US compared to Ireland.

    Funny how you, a prison officer, propose following almost every part of the US save the mass privatization of prisons, wonder why that could be, oh right, self interest.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 8:07 PM

    Wari.
    Simply because Privatised Prisons have been shown time and time again to be an utter disaster in terms of security and staff safety. One only has to look at our nearest neighbour to see just how much of a bad idea they are and why the rest of Europe are not following suit. In reality they actually cost the state more than those under Government control in the long term.

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    Sep 28th 2015, 12:01 AM

    I’m all for criminals doing time for their crimes especially violent or sexual crime but some of the sentences for carrying a small amount of drugs are ridiculous. Check out the segment John Oliver did on it, it’s a real eye opener. When I think of the idiot I was as a teenager, I would hate to go to jail for 15 years because of being on idiot.

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    Sep 28th 2015, 12:02 AM

    I didn’t deal drugs! lol

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    Sep 27th 2015, 7:53 PM

    If the sale of illegal substances was legalised and regulated then a lot of these places would see a massive reduction in crime as the people relying on the drug trade to make a living would be forced into tax-paying, gainful employment as they could not compete with a well regulated, safe industry. Also, not only would we gain the tax from the legal sale of drugs, it would be much easier to ensure the quality and safety of such substances as they could be tested in proper labs before being passed onto the public. It doesn’t take a genius to see that the head in the sand approach just doesn’t work. As long as there is a clear demand for drugs, there will always be people willing to risk everything to meet that demand for massive tax free profits.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 7:34 PM

    In fact the Americans have the right idea here. Conspiracy to distribute heroin is no small crime. In my opinion 15 years is entirely appropriate. Crime must be punished harshly or we are all doomed.

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    Sep 27th 2015, 8:15 PM

    They should do more about guns than 1000 year prison terms

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    Sep 28th 2015, 11:46 AM

    How about maybe not dealing heroin. Heroin is a violent drug as is most other drugs. And yes that includes Weed. So just because the initial deal was violent… what we should let them away. The Americans have the right way. Full length senences for federal offences. If we could adopt there legal court room system this country would be a hell of a lot better off.

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