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Slightly off topic but Moore street was never the vibrant market portrayed in oral history and tourist posters. It was always smelly and slapdash. It is tiny. Compare it to the central market in any other European capital like Barcelona. Clean the place up and build proper stalls. Close the Chinese and Nigerian shops and give Dublin a Moore St to be proud of
Good point, we have a market area (Smithfield) and like it out not, the street traders were able to cover the massive illigal trade in the area that made Moore street an area to avoid for 40 years. The derelict buildings are a part of that, and while it may be nostalgic to remember the stories, these buildings are not fit for that. That side of Henry Street needs regeneration, and part of that would include a museum, but holding up progress for the sake of personal memories isn’t right. Comparisons to the major battle places is incorrect as well… the GPO more than fulfills that role.
Well said alien, moore street is not an area of significant history. It is a crime laden area of the city with more likeness to Beijing or lagos than dublin. The proposed revamping of moore street includes a museum and a partial indoor area for traders. The gas thing is, the fruit sellers on moore street want this change and actually are against this occupation. Dublin is growing and needs redevelopment but let’s be honest, the vast majority of these occupiers are the same anti everything brigade. It’s their hobby / job. Wasters!
I’d love to see it upgraded. Put in a strip of nice, independent shops selling quality Irish produce. There is huge demand for that and would be a lot nicer than another bog standard shopping centre filled with UK and US chain stores. I won’t hold my breath on DCC coming up with a good solution though.
Moore St was never just Moore Street alone, before they built the Ilac centre that whole area was made up of stalls selling food, cloths and everything you could think off. The traders were then forced onto Moore St when they closed the surrounding area. Moore St is embedded in Dublin heritage and for many thousands of Families was the shopping area every Fri Sat. I agree that it should be cleaned up but don’t take away the character of the area. Leaving the building as they are is not an answer as they will become dilapidated and beyond repair.
Btw my point was not directed at Chinese or Nigerian businesses per se but the kinds of shops that seem to populate the street like phone unlocking and nasty Internet cafes.
Four of them were interviewed on Saturday on the Marion finnucane show , all of them
Are also water protesters !! Where to they get their time to do all this serial protesting ?
Renovate the buildings to what they were in 1916, and turn the whole street into a museum. The National Museum has far more stuff than it has space to display, here is an opportunity to put this stuff on display in the very place where it was used. Half the retail centres in the country are empty we don’t really need another, but when these buildings are gone what will we do? lead people round Starbucks or MacDonalds and tell them “This is where the Barricade so many died to man used to be. Over there in that closed unit with the whited out windows is where Connolly lay bleeding”? We have a chance to hounor the start of our Independence and create a world class interpretive centre in the actual buildings where men and women fought and bled for a dream of an Ireland of equals.
You’re quoting from the bible of Heather Humphries – who, in an effort to justify the commencement of the demolition, first tried to tell us that there were no foundations to these houses – despite them having been built in 1832 ……. don’t believe all you hear or read in the newspapers….
The building in which the Rising leaders held their final council of war is being preserved. The buildings that are being demolished have no connection to the Rising.
John Bruton(former Taoiseach) said in a recent interview that 1916 was totally unnecessary & a waste of Irish lives. Home Rule had bee granted & the rising was misguided. These decisions are being made by a Government of this thinking. How can we protect our heritage from them???
He isn’t wrong that it was a total and unmitigated disaster. It was effectively a Coup within the Irish Volunteer movement as the radical left fringe used subterfuge to fool the various Volunteer organisations into thinking that it was sanctioned.
The true Genesis of an independent Ireland comes from the Conscription crisis of 1918 and not some Disney style patriotic call to arms following 1916. During and after the German Michael Offensive, the British army had an acute manpower shortage of which there was much lobbying to conscript the previously exempt Ireland. With that, membership of the IRA ballooned.
TLDR: It was the Conscription Crisis and not Easter 1916 which pushed thousands of Irish men into the IRA. This is a fact that is backed up by historical records and not some opinion of some Republican revisionist. Reclaim your history.
It full of “Serial” protesters – the same ones you’d see at the water protests .
Any chance to rise up against the establishment !
Nothing to do with keeping the Moore st buildings .
A history teacher does not necessarily teach history. Some history teachers, it would appear, do not understand the difference between an insurgent and a rebel.
Its very important that all these buildings are preserved for future generations. I dont think anyone has a problem with the buildings being renovated in regards to an interpretive centre. For me, i would love to see a cultural quarter being set up around the Moore Street area, something that Dublin is sadly lacking.
Its also interesting to see some people in the comments section here who support the destruction that is planned, also show some racist/xenophobic tendencies in their posts.
Well said Kevin move the Chinese and nigerians what are they doing there in first place some irish street that is more like spot the irish on at street
Where were all the “saviours” of Moore st for the last 20 years as the street became a den for drug use, drug sales. Where were they when the “home” of the rising was taken over by phone repair shops, hair extensions shops and the likes? If the place is so precious why haven’t they been down there before protesting?
Is it worth a quick profit for some developer to destroy this ?
There are many empty sites, shops and units across the city or even very near to these buildings.
O’Connell street needs to be re vamped. empty building and empty sites. This does not need to include the destruction of our heritage for greed. The builder will make a quick profit and then the shops will struggle to keep rent payments until they leave and make room for the Euro Shops, Starbucks, Dealz and Phone shops that are on every corner, we might even get a Penneys so we don’t have to walk to the other 3 about 50 meters away.
Get traders back, clean up the street and make this a place to visit and be proud of.
This is and should be a tourist attraction.
Ireland is one of the most beautiful places in the world.
Moore Street is NOT beautiful.
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Only nostalgic Dubliners would care about saving the old dump.
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