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AS A 16-YEAR-OLD walking through Dublin’s inner city in the autumn of 1982, German exchange student David Jazay fell in love.
Not with a Dublin cailín, but with the city itself. Specifically, with the Liffey quays.
He had also recently discovered photography and was struck with an idea that would meld the two. Unbeknownst to him, he would continue to work on that project for decades.
With incredible foresight for a teenager, Jazay knew that the city’s heart would be unrecognisable in a few years.
“It was such a unique era in time,” he told TheJournal.ie from his Berlin home. “Just before the buildings were torn down or completely made over. It was obvious it was going to change soon.”
As he strolled along the quays on a Sunday morning in October, Jazay said he realised “all these marks or undeveloped or derelict places” would not feature in an inner city in Germany.
To him though, it wasn’t bleak. It was beautiful.
“It was like a big adventure playground,” he recalls. “It was exciting. It gave me a sense of white space and colour schemes that were visually very stunning…especially for a continental European.”
More than 30 years later, Jazay is ready to exhibit some of the work that he produced as a result of those teenage musings.
“I became attached to the area and after I studied film in Munich, I returned each year [for a decade] to continue the project. With each visit, the photos got better and better.”
It was only this year that the computer technology caught up with his obsession of photographing every single detail of a particular structure. As a result of improvements in computer image processing technology, he was able to turn his fine-grained medium format negatives into high-resolution panoramas with huge levels of detail.
The result – large, composite images – allow the the view to experience the city, exactly how it was in the 1980s and early 1990s.
His panoramas capture the entire Liffey quays before redevelopment to ensure “new generations experience the Dublin of that pivotal era, now largely lost to visual memory”.
A statement on his website is appropriate to quote on this Bloomsday weekend.
Much like in that famous quote attributed to Joyce “… if the city one day suddenly disappeared from the earth it could be reconstructed …(from his Ulysses)”, I too had the madness and the ambition to photograph every building under threat of demolition, document what I could of the last cornershops, antique furniture businesses and auction houses along the Liffey.
I concentrated on Georgian architectural ensembles (still posessing grandeur in dilapidation) and the poor but lively Inner City neighbourhoods: shopkeepers, marketers, children playing in the streets, local characters.
This whole microcosm would irrevocably change a few years later, in the boom years of the Celtic Tiger.
Now, after 30 years, I am able to realise my vision (unattainable with solely chemical photographic technique), of re-constructing a memory of Dublin’s Inner City in the pre-boom years – and to bring back this vision to the place that inspired it.
At the end of the 1980s, Jazay made a film about the area and became involved in discussions about what should become of the quays.
He says he wanted to portray the inner city as “alive” and not a derelict space.
“I had this vision of beauty, grand architectural heritage and a face of the city that was only appreciated by very few people.”
He explains that caring about the architectural heritage at that stage in the ’80s was an “exotic concern” given the grave economic problems.
That vision he had as a 16-year-old has now come to life. He says the little sketches he made back in 1982 are “pretty close” to what his full Dublin Before The Tiger exhibition will be.
Through his images, he wants to show the way of life that is now gone, recreating time and space in a myriad of ways. He focuses on the corner shops that are no longer trading, the family businesses that were cherished and the auction houses that were numerous in the area.
“At that time in history, the buildings were very rich in layers. You could see the origin in the Georgian buildings, and then the additions and the repairs. The signs of people living there for centuries.
“They are a rich, layer-cake of history.”
He says he has shown the images to people who never saw Dublin during this period and they could not name the city.
They thought the images were “very exotic”, he added.
While the images you see here are scaled down, Jazay imagines them being shown as large, immersive prints at an exhibition.
He wants them to be printed in large sizes – at least 2×6 metres.
“What you can’t see in the web images, is the amazing level of detail,” he explains.
The artist wants people to be able to stand in front of the images and “take in the architectural detail, see where each shop and sign was, discover the very fabric and the marks left on the buildings”.
He will be in return to Dublin in July for the PhotoIreland Festival, hoping to drum up interest in exhibiting the work.
His ideal location for the event would be a non gallery space, such as a disused building.
“The response so far has been really good,” he says. “Maybe it’s the right time – after the boom, after the crash. There is an awareness of what has happened.”
The presence of traditional techniques and businesses has also struck a chord, given the resurgence in small enterprises recently.
And, does he still love Dublin?
Yes. He never came back during the so-called Celtic Tiger but he had “heard stories”.
“So when I came back after a 20-year hiatus, I wasn’t shocked or surprised. But, compared to what it could have been, I still liked the quays and the new boardwalks. It’s nice to have less traffic and more people.
“Of course, it would have been good to see more of the buildings kept but it is still immensely lively and the basic heights of the buildings have remained.
“I also like the modern aspects of Dublin – the open society, the multiculturalism. I still love the city and look forward to coming back.”
To see more, check out David Jazay’s website.
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Appointing McEntee was nothing more than the government balancing their gender quota for the top jobs. No where in any other walk of life would a journalism graduate be given the job as a minister for justice. It’s about time the government copped on and started giving jobs to the most qualified people.
@Heywood Jablome: and Mary Lou, gender quota? The perversion of an organisation who supported the murder of children discussing Justice is an affront to decency.
@Heywood Jablome: You know what Simo Harris is a Journalism dropout, yeah?? At least she got a First
@Heywood Jablome: ill see you minster McEntee and raise you Simon Harris
I think he has got the leaving Cert’
@Heywood Jablome: both of them need to go ….if it was his old job in the RUC/PSNI he would have been gone already….. only in Ireland do we sit back and let these people in command positions stay and drag it out to the end….RTE has nearly collapsed of financial underhanded antics and Tubbs got the boot….. these 2 clowns have brought the security of the state to its knees and they are basically sticking their fingers up at the country and saying ya can’t touch us ….its a slap in the face to any of us that have served in uniform….to level these 2 muppts running the show
@Paul Fahey: then Paul where do we go with this and I share you’re disdain of SF but I sense mischief in your claim. Is it the case that everyone’s past is going to determine their status because if it is we’re fooked as a country. SF while I dislike them are at least a political force now in the country. In my view its a youth movement and I who grew up at the start of the troubles am likely to hinder any reasonable debate around them but I do trust my children. Time to stop the tribalism in my view because we are stuck otherwise.
@Paul Fahey: don’t talk rubbish & deflect from the reality that the minister is useless & not near up for the job, she lives in a parallel universe
@Paul Fahey: stop living in the past what matters is the future
@John Mcmahon: and irony of him being Minister for further and higher education. The neck on him.
@Heywood Jablome: correct and its about time we started doing accountability in this country as well…according to FFG theres never a proper time for someone to have to resign…theres nothing to be gained blah blah…yes there is it ensures the next person in the job will try harder so as not to get fired..Cotton wool politicians…no scandal big enough ever.
@John Mcmahon: you’d wonder has he.
McEntee is a soulless automaton who comes across as someone who has been compromised. How she ever got that appointment is a question for further down the road.
@Peter Murray: I’m sure her uncle would agree with you…Wonder to Jesus she didn’t go for another photo opportunity down O Connell Street with her garda escort..
@Peter Murray: If only her “integrity” made the public feel safe or kept trouble off the streets of Dublin! Remember how she took a walk in the city a few months ago, backed Harris and gave a nice sound bite of how “Dublin is a safe city”…… Unfortunately both her and Drew Harris are not up to the job and what has been simmering for a while now, for everyone to see, came to fruition. Toe rags are running amock with no consequence and no fear.
@Donal Desmond: That guy just posts random nonsense with no proof of anything, he’s constantly and consistently doing it .
@Peter Murray: but no competency
@Adrian Kehoe: Agree …He can also get personal when opinions go against him.
@Tommy Haze: I believe she got that appointment for what was recognised as a good job she did as Minister of State for European Affairs during Brexit.
@Ron Collins: She is a complete turd, justice minister with 0 background in law… how pitiful.
@Peter Murray: and you know this how exactly or is it just a stupid comment on your behalf…some facts please.
Why no highlighted reporting of the stabbing on Talbot Street last night. Very low profile. Seems the media is being locked down. By the State?
@Mike 100: posted 4 hours ago on here
Man hospitalised after stabbing incident on Talbot Street last night https://jrnl.ie/6233767
@Mike 100: That would depend on the race/colour of the assailant.
Also if he’s not from Ireland.
All reasons why its not being reported. Its disgraceful.
Yes, it would be an order from the state claiming “far right lunatics” will riot again if the ethnicity of the assailant was revealed.
No, angry Irish people will, Harris just puts them in that bracket.
There were groups of Irish men stopping looters on Thursday, go look for the videos.
Find out for yourself go to other sites that may have the story.
I cant name any here.
But mainstream media wont report the truth.
@Denis Rathsallagh Brady: But it was reported and Paul C provided the link in this thread. And were they just angry Irish people who were looting shops in Dublin?
@Mike 100: Gript is a reliable Irish news source that isn’t being controlled by the state
@Andrew Martin: Not exactly balanced though is it?
@Denis Rathsallagh Brady: and a stabbing in courtown direct provision Centre over the weekend. No in main media outlets for some reason?
@Rob Cahill: and this is?
@SYaxJ2Ts: Any mainstream media report on it?
Didnt think so…
@Denis Rathsallagh Brady: Yes, it’s all over MSM. If you’re too lazy to look, then I certainly can’t be arsed sending you the links. But I guess it’s not laziness that’s stopping you.
@SYaxJ2Ts: No. Theres a video of groups of Irish men stopping people from looting.
In one video they stopped 3 black guys from looting.
They were also shouting “dont be robbing from you own you’re better that this”
Didnt read about anywhere did yiz?
@Denis Rathsallagh Brady: Why are you focusing on one video? The looting was wrong no matter who did it but it was clearly done predominantly by Irish teenagers. Yet you’ll pick one video to reinforce your pre-existing anti-immigration view
@Andrew Martin: It isn’t reliable it’s for turds like you.
@Denis Rathsallagh Brady: I’ve seen that video. There is absolutely no evidence in it that the black guys were looting.
She has been a disaster who wants to turn us into Communist China with her hate speech laws and facial recognition cameras.
@Four Aces: The hate speech laws will be totally unworkable if everyone decides to get offended.
As for facial recognition: ‘Researchers have found that the technology is more likely to misidentify people of color, trans people, and women than middle-aged white men’
@Four Aces: your local super markets used facial recognition…. Better steer clear
@Martin Mongan: Dole offices have been using FRT for a few years this was used to identify the Roma gypsies scamming in Gorey Wexford a few years back and successful identifying Irish travellers
@Four Aces: Funny how these cameras have been in use for years across Europe but it’ll just be the Irish ones that’ll be problematic.
No one in this government is ever held accountable, law and order, housing, health care, the oversight of the whole lot of it is a national disgrace.
@john dennehy: that’s the beauty of it,once you get it it is the gravy train doesn’t matter if you do anything at all guaranteed lump sum and pension if it does go south just do as you’re told and live the dream in there even money for clocking into the dail sitting there saying nothing great crack
@john dennehy: Exactly…theres always this “nothing will be gained now” excuse.Well I beg to differ.Everything will be gained and we will get the chance to employ a competent minister for justice
Whatever about the minister – And so the media distraction goes on. I believe we need to call out the alignment of the native mecia with government and opposition policy here. No native Irish media had reported to us on the suspect. The details don’t read too good for their policies and applying our laws. Thankfully some of the British titles operating are not so tied to the establishment and are happy to let us know the 20 year history of the suspect here in Ireland.
@TheUnrepresented: Native Irish, the same we saw looting all over the place and being lazy dole turd like you?
@The Anti palestine And Islam: “Native media” or “native Irish media” – mentioned above ONLY. I assume you have the IQ to understand the difference in these terms to your term “native irish” term without any further nouns e.g. RTE, TV3, Irish Independent, Irish examiner…even the journal.ie ARE all native Irish media. As opposed to British owned titles “Sunday Times”, “Irish Mirror”, “Irish Daily Mail”. I suggest you go to specsavers if you still cant work it out. And I assume you understand the point being made re local media being in lock step with the distracting establishment.
@TheUnrepresented: Fiannan Sheahan may as well rename the Independent The FF daily chronicle…he is so blatantly pro FF and anti everyone else even FG oddly enough…I wonder why…lol
Why are there no conversations happening about the immigration issue where degenerates are flocking to Ireland to take advantage of our favorable social welfare schemes. At the very least the government needs to reassess what refugees are entitled to claim to reduce the numbers coming here. And before I’m labeled a racist, I believe in diversity and freedom of travel. That does not mean a country should not have checks and balances in place. The average person does not have an issue with people coming here legally to work. The government needs to start listening to the concerns of the population instead of pushing on with its own agenda
@Conor McCarthy: the most sensible comment on here
@Conor McCarthy: because they love Muslims or are too afraid to speak up.
@Conor McCarthy: I disagree. We cannot have checks and balances if we also have to fulfil our obligations under European, UN and Humanitarian agreements. With the war in Ukraine we are only one of many EU countries offering safety to refugees. Already as part of the EU other citizens of EU states have the same rights to live and work here as we have in other EUCountries. The presence in Ireland of other asylum seekers and non European nationals is a problem successive governments have intentionally failed to address with sufficient resources as a deterrent. This was exposed with the Ukraine war and the double standard became news and no a political football. The neoliberal chickens are coming home to roost and a great little country to do business in has become a right wing playground.
@Conor will always push their own agenda ,just like they are pushing the irish outta their homes . Horror that new arrivals What about the 13,000+ homeless irish that is really a non-existent number as it’s more like 20,000 homeless irish . Fact 64 new fully furnished to high standard , quick builds opening in tullamore for Ukrainians,carpets ,bedding ,TV’s, white goods the lot. Special bus services for them as on outskirts of town .While 18 new build bungalows for old ppl 200 yards have just bare walls and stone floors and no bus service . 80,000 Ukrainians and 425% in international protection applicant’s in the last 15 months . Where is the equality ?
Plenty of blue shirts rearing their ûgly heads and once again defending the indefensible.
@Heywood Jablome: relax, Shinners are crumbling and it’s lovely to see, enjoy it
@Heywood Jablome: You can almost smell the panic off them. Not sure why they’re so terrified of SF. SF will likely do just as bad a job as FFG.
Kidding, I am sure why they’re terrified. They can see their century old hegemony being broken. Decades of old boy networking and gombeenmanship down the tube and only a few gaffs in Malta to show for it.
@Paul Gorry: nonsense. FFG should merge as they are effectively identical.
@brian madden: SF/IRA are identical lol
@Paul Gorry: ah here we go with the ira. Didn’t take you long.
@brian madden: great to see the triggered shinnerbots, Brian lol
@brian madden: Sf hate any history older than 25 years ago.
So, if someone is incompetent and there’s plenty of evidence to demonstrate it, we just accept mediocracy?
No wonder we’re not coping well.
I love Ireland, like the even rioters are given second chance to have another go, being let on on bail.
The courts are just as much to blame as McEntee, Harris and senior Garda management.
Make me wanna cry.
@Chris Curran: Any issues with the courts stop at McEntee.
I cannot believe that there is an article asking people affected by the riots to email them. You would think a Pan Am jet exploded over the city or something. Nobody was hurt, riots happen in every single city on earth, GET THE F OVER IT.
@Pauline Gallagher: Well said Pauline, well said.
@Pauline Gallagher: Well Ms Angry, they were the worst riots in our capital city for 20 years. Many people were affected. So GET THE F OVER IT
@SYaxJ2Ts: If you think im standing up for them, I’m not, I referred to them as toerags in another story. I dont appreciate how the Irish government, police and media are more appalled by a night of anarchy, which they should have been well prepared for, than the very inevitable PTSD that the real victims of Thursday will suffer. And it aint a bunch of witnesses to a relatively tame riot. What a bunch of panseys you all are. Get a backbone.
@Pauline Gallagher: Well said….but of course it was in Dublin,so it’s always blown out of proportion.And to think people in this country think we should act more like the French….lol.can you imagine.
@Pauline Gallagher: There is no hierarchy here. They just want to hear people’s stories. There’s plenty of time for conversations about the earlier attack once we have more information, and probably after a court case takes place
@Pauline Gallagher: You don’t travel much do you? Riots like this don’t happen in city center of other cities (aside USA) and totally uncontrolled.
Get over your braindead you turd.
@The Anti palestine And Islam: lol what? something tells me you are NOT anti Palestine
McEntee and Harris ‘We are left wing, we are left wing, we are left wing’
Well done to all the workers in Dublin City today.
@Annette:
They didn’t do much work.
Labour haven’t scored any points politically aince the 80s.
@Nicholas James O’Donnell: own goals maybe
McEntee was, remains, and always will be out of her depth. She fell into govenmernt by someone’s death and as sad as that is, it doesn’t make for suitable and confident leadership. Sountbytes and low hanging fruit for sex offending amendment legislation sounds great but it doesn’t cut it when we have major crises in our lives about national security, walking the streets and children being able to go to and from school. She’s an elitist and as wrong as the riots were, they are a social symptom of a society she helps to diverge. She just needs to go. By peaceful means if necessary.
Sinn Fein unravelling, a delightful spectacle
@Paul Gorry: Where have you been hiding since the turn of the century ? FFG pre-2000 used to get around 40% of the vote each, now their down to 35% BETWEEN them, SF on the other hand have been on a massive upsurge during the same period now averaging poll results that are almost equal to the combined popularity of FF & FG. Go home to whatever alternate universe you came from kiddo.
@Frank Cauldhame: on a downward trend since Mary Toilet came back, food for thought I am sure
@Paul Gorry: Scraping the barrel there, lol, I’ve no doubt that Sinn Fein are relishing the upcoming election whereas FFG know they’re doomed, hence you and your fellow shills expressing panic online through your lies, lol.
@Frank Cauldhame: some bang of fear off you Frankie, squeaky bum time for you and your fellow shills lol
@Frank Cauldhame:as always well said Frank.
@Frank Cauldhame: Yeah…..and all of that will be undone when they get into government and are useless…..they have gained a load of swing voters….those swing voters will swing away from then in an act.
Has Jonathan Dowdall left Sinn Fein ?
If not he could use the old waterboarding trick to encourage them to resign
@Frank Cauldhame: you can smell the fear off the blue shirts, that and the smell of Gin.
They both need to go along with a few more ministers that are causing devide right across the country, this branding people thugs far right ect is not helping only making more people grow angrier, listen to the people that elected you ,all people are asking is to check who’s coming into the country,
SF have eventually been found out – the hurler on the ditch will never miss the goal. Governing and good governance is a long way from kidnapping and robbing banks.
@Declan Gibney: Suppose you could say the same concerning FFG who robbed the taxpayers money to bailout the banks and developers. The same taxpayers who were then forced through austerity to repay for the gangsterism of the banks and developers facilated by the same political parties that are again in power.
@Donal Desmond: Yes,a lot of what you said is true…..but who did the banks lend all that money too?…..yeah,that’s right.us…but of course it’s always everyone else’s fault in this country…never the Irish public…..’we’ are just to blame for the collapse of this country in 2010 as anyone.
@uUleRhCu: No doubt people borrowed recklessly but to say we were all as culpable as the regulator/Anglo/international institutional lenders for the crash is a misunderstanding of the causes of the collapse. Personal responsibility is something that should be promoted, especially in these days, but saying we are collectively “just as much to blame” as the regulator and reckless banks isn’t true and sounds like victim blaming
I think in all this discussion about the damage caused by mindless vandals what’s being forgotten is that what kicked it off was an attack on innocent toddlers and a teacher by an “ economic migrant “ who, somehow managed to become an Irish citizen. This, coupled with the murder of that poor girl in Offaly leads me to think that there is little or no vetting of people who want to make their homes here.
@Michael Mcevoy: well you havent got a clue, he moved here 20years ago, was fully vetted before being made an Irish citizen, had a brain tumor that changed his behaviour,(still no excuse for what he did) a lot more crime is commited by unvetted irish people,there is always going to be a few bad apples in the bunch,didnt hear any uproar when that irish lad killed his wife and his kids
@he didnt take the 120k because he already got it s: exactly right dude. People in the country do commit murder but I have no recollection of any Irishman standing outside a toddlers school with the sole aim of murdering as many kids as possible or if cutting off the heads of those men in Sligo. And to use the excuse that his illness caused him to target young kids is despicable.
Sinn Fein on a very pleasant downward trajectory. Useless blowhards whose style of politics is better suited to junior cert debating contests.
They’ve shot themselves in the foot here.
How have last week’s riots in Dublin affected you? We want to hear your stories https://jrnl.ie/6233803
I love that they journal r asking this with, “COMMENTS CLOSED” underneath it.
That’s Leo to a T.
@John Kelly: It’s a joke that they want to hear from people but want to cherry pick them before publishing and then leave the comments closed on everything.
Wait until sinn fein/ira get into power they will show us what justice is all about like they did in the North of Ireland before they got into power. We need a new political party not ffg greens or sinn fein/ira. One that takes care of the four and a half million indigenous irish.
@Rodney Byrne: indigenous Irish’. Oh dear.
@Rodney Byrne: no blacks,no dogs, no irish remember our history lad
I’d like to hear comments Mairia Cahills book Rough Justice
Sinn Fein the great Know all’s
Anyone who watched the Week in Politics program yesterday on RTE presented by Áine Lawlor will have had their worst fears confirmed regarding clueless politicians in this country.
Pearse Doherty SF – Jack Chambers FF
and Jennifer Whitmore SD were all asked about the recent Dublin riots.
They all gave the usual not enough Gardaí or Gda resources available, lack of recruitment etc and not one of them including the presenter mentioned the root cause which is the fact that these incidents happen and will continue to happen even if they open 100 new Gda stations and double the number of Gardaí because the thugs and criminals in this country have no fear, because their are no real consequences for the anti social acts they carry out.
The 34 people arrested in relation to the Dublin riots were in court the next day and home with their feet up watching the TV that evening, they won’t face another day in court until next year where no doubt they will face a stern talking to that will soften their cough.
An overhaul of the judicial and legal system is urgently needed with mandatory sentences for assaults and serious anti social behaviour along with more prison spaces and a limit on free legal aid for serial offenders.
These measures would go a long way to giving our Gardaí the backing they need as well as sending a message to the thugs and criminals out there that their will be consequences for their actions.
It might also help to reassure the general public that the government is serious about crime and punishment in this country.
This Green woman is a great woman for the limelight talks a whole lot of dribble.
McEntee knows about the bullying and treatment in the Guards. People leaving and even suicides in some cases and she still has her head in the sand. Someone needs to get her out of that role before it’s too late. She’s a disgrace to all rank and file but she doesn’t care.
A non existing Police Force
So Liebour promotes violence on the streets of the Capital?? While people’s businesses are destroyed by hooliganism
Will Nessa please join SF .
She knows she wants to!
So obvious
Body Cameras and facial recognition shows these decisions are being made by people with little experience of real world policing, These would of done nothing to deal with mobs in hoodies,face wraps and scarfs.
@Boyd – Barrett I suppose Thursdays attack was a bit of Argy Bargy
Turn on Comments when it suits. Used to like it here. Ye are bottlers
All a load of codswollop being written here.. but ye got one thing right Mary Lou is a joke . Jumps on the bandwagon of every issue has the answer to everything except where the ira buried their victims. On the scene of the stabbings and could see what was coming down the road and has the pulse on the community. What a woman
@Gerry R: Completely agree !- let her come clean with the hidden graves !!
@Gerry R: still deflecting from the govt parties who are presiding over failed crisis ridden policies in housing homeless criminal justice health transport courts prisons Garda defence forces and bizarrely hospital building which should be an easy win , but no you want to complain about the opposition who haven’t ever been in power – jog on
Political opportunist!!!
@Carlow Muaythai: Exactly. Undermining the head of the guards and minister for justice isn’t really going to help build confidence in policing
McEntee has allowed on two previous occasions (as she is entitled to do, for personal reasons) stepped down from her position as minister and has allowed others to do her job, and they did a good job.
So why can’t she do it again, for the safety of our citizens this time!!
I suspect that the investigation into the thuggery let loose on innocent dubs on Thursday has along way to go and we will see just how hard the right wing little rent manboys are
Nessa should just bite the …… and join sf
An appalling campaign against a progressive, hard-working minister. Not the first time Sinn Fein has done this rubbish, such time-wasters. The riots were in no way McEntee’s fault.
They broke our housing ,they broke our education, our health . They broke any chance of our children having an affordable future . They broke the policing and security of this country . Who voted them in again ??. This government have broken the irish , with everything they have broken already and contuine to break . Freedom of expression and speech is next.
Time for serious look at how we tackle anti social behaviour in Ireland it’s way past time for being too soft – look to other developed countries for some ideas , ankle
Bracelets , ASBO , Zero tolerance , 3strikes and prison , building more prison and detention centres , implementing fines , cutting welfare benefits , stronger and more widespread enforcement of criminal assets bureau , cctv , better equipped security services , amalgamation of better equipped and trained riot squads from army and police , tasers , even consider arming all police , certainly need to put all options on table and consider what’s best for Ireland – oh and scrapping the 15c subscriptions in cells for sky tv – the country can still work to reform without being too soft.
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