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Fine Gael politicians urge Burton to roll back on respite grant cut

A Fine Gael TD and a Senator have both asked the Minister to reconsider the decision to cut the grant by over €300.

File photo of Minister for Social Protection Joan Burton.
File photo of Minister for Social Protection Joan Burton.
Image: Niall Carson/PA Wire

TWO FINE GAEL politicians have contacted Minister for Social Protection Joan Burton to ask her to reconsider the cut to the respite care grant that was announced in this week’s budget.

TD Regina Doherty said she was “sickened” by the cut and will be meeting with the minister on Tuesday to discuss it.

“It’s very difficult to accept,” she told TheJournal.ie. “When something is wrong, it’s wrong and I question how, when someone sat around a table, they thought that this was OK.”

“There was no consultation with us about this beforehand, I only got the notification on the day so it was a big shock.”

Fine Gael Senator Fidelma Healy Eames joined her colleague in criticising the cut of over €300 to the respite care grant.

“I don’t like it because I feel that the people who are getting it are doing incredible work and it will cost more if they don’t do it,” she told TheJournal.ie. “It just goes too close to the bone for me.”

“I did contact the minister and I got a response about the increases in the grant over the last few years,” she said. “I do understand that she’s in a difficult position but I think it would be a brave thing to roll back on, I wouldn’t see it as a sign of weakness.”

“I will be encouraging her to look at it again and I’m hoping she’ll listen,” she added.

Yesterday the Minister told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland that if the respite care grant was maintained in Budget 2013, core weekly Social Welfare payments would have been reduced. When asked if the government would roll back on the decision she said “the budget has now been made”.

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Comments (83 Comments)

  • What planet are these politicians living in. ? Carers are one step away from utter depression dealing with a life that resembles a prison sentence except you can serve it in your own ( the revenues) home. What an uncaring country and the condesending words of ministers like posh boys coveney/ shatter e.t.c and co who never had a poor day in their lives. Shame on you nasty \goverment. Tim

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    • Emotional blackmail at best, but what happens when the carer cracks up from stress and fatigue…a doctor would not be allowed to work the hours the carers do. If they had replaced the cut with more home help hours, to ease the burden I would try to understand but alas………..we are just the walking dead……….

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    • Most of the people being cared for have life limiting conditions. The politicians are depriving these people of a right to live their lives in comfort in the time they have left. This government is evil. These cuts remind me of margaret thatcher in her hey day she would like joan burton.cut from the same cloth

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  • Correct me if I am wrong.
    Unemployment benefit is €188 Per Week
    Carers is €205 per week
    Does this mean for a Staggering €17 extra per week you can Provide 24/7 Care for a Person in need.
    Wait Carers could be entitled to Free Household Benefits that’s an extra €62 per Month. Oh they are reducing that as well.
    At least I get a Free Television Licence to subsidise the Underpaid Presenters in RTE.
    Nearly forgetting the free bus Pass. Can’t beat standing at a Bus stop in the cold and Rain with a Wheelchair. Damn the Bus is full again. You would think I could afford a Car on this big income. Better Go to the Chemist for your Medicines. What it’s gone up 300%.
    The annual Respite Care Grant will reduce from €1,700 to €1,375. Would that cover 2 weeks in a Nursing Home so I could have a Break? Nah I need to catch up on some bills before we are left in the Cold and Dark.

    If the Government can do it at these prices am I doing something wrong?

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  • There is only one way to make our Governors cop on. Mass mortgage default. We are constantly asking the Government to default on the Banks, so if they won’t why don’t we? It’s very simple and everyone can do it ….. together. They should be putting the money into the real needs of Ireland.

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    • Awesome, I’ll tell my parents not to pay theirs too when the mass movement of non-payment begins. They’re not struggling to pay it at the moment, but if everyone else is not paying, why should they continue to pay?

      Now, do you see why this is a bad idea…..

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    • I’m not saying to squander your hard earned money I’m simply saying not to service the mortgage. Lodge into a second account. Damage limitation for the mortgage holder, real pressure for the Bank and the Government will have to deal with us then. Lets keep it simple.

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    • Totally agree. We must make a stand. Only pay people such as local traders etc. Lets stuff it to them. They cant put us all in jail or take all our houses. Lets have a financial rebellion.

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  • As soon as I heard about such a ridiculous and senseless cut I thought to myself this is just a smokescreen .
    If the people are up in arms over this they won’t be talking about the property tax and children’s allowance cut. The government no doubt will do a u turn on this but will wait till the storm is over . They will make a big deal about how they listen to the people and the people have made a decision or some crap like that. The government is using this allowance and the people affected as pawns in there manipulation games .
    Looking forward to seeing Fine Gael or labour out looking for votes in the future as they deserve a lashing

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    • You are spot on. Spin the bottle tactics. Only problem it will be a while for them to be begging at our doors.

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    • I think unfortunately you are right

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    • That’s a great point Dave. It also works in the sense that it’s trying to make FG appear as if they have the peoples best interests at heart by looking out for the carers when it was probably these toads that sanctioned this cut. When are we going to take our country back from these spineless sociopaths guys?

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    • I completely agree, there is less discussion about all the other cuts and increased taxes that will affect many families who are already in a strained position. Every person I have talked to is looking at cuts that will see them a minimum of €100 worse of per month, yet again a government hits those trying to make a living, the ill, people living in areas where there are a lack of decent transport options and on and on.

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  • What’s “wrong” and “sickening” is that no TD, govt or opposition, proposed cutting politicians pay or scrapping the Croke park agreement.

    I read today that head of bord failte is on 160k+ and “is entitled to retire at 55″.

    This is what ALL TDs are protecting. Shame on all of them

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    • Scrap croke park, you are wrong. Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty put a motion to leinster house to cut the salaries of politicians and civil servants which was voted down by the other parties. On his second attempt, he was denied the right to even put the motion forward

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    • Was this on budget day? That’s whats I was referring to. Am fairly sure Pearse brought this up in the past. Am not a fan of sinn Féin but have to admit Pearse makes a frightening amount of sense at times

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    • So true Scrap, but clearly the minister is in a quandry. With her high salary, generous expenses etc., how could she possibly find the time to purchase a knife sharp enough to slit the throats of those in need of respite care, let alone their carers?. Of course, she wouldn’t. She has overpaid advisors to do that.

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  • This woman is behaving like Pee Flynn. She needs hundreds of thousands while the rest of us must go hungry.

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  • If there is a “carers association” out there, they should join together and use the tough love stance and leave their loved ones ,one and all, at the gates of Leinster house indefinitely until them morons running what’s left of this banana republic see sense and return full grants back to them. It would cost the state immeasurable amount of money to care for these people themselves. Another example of how this state really cares for its citizens….by punishing the young and old and the most defenceless. I’m totally ashamed of the lot of them supposed to be representing us but instead just give us lip service and line their own pockets.

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    • That is probably the most idiotic idea I have ever come across on this site. A better one would be for those of us who fortunately don’t require the grant to back them all the way, by putting pressure on TDs etc.

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    • That wouldn’t be tough love it would be utterly insane.
      Many carers are caring for their parents in their old age – leave them outside the Dáil? In this weather?
      What if they are suffering from dementia? Arthritis?
      What if they are handicapped or disabled children? You would have people wandering around Kildare St and surrounding areas getting list and frightened..

      Perhaps you didn’t think this one through.. The carers cannot strike. They are on duty non stop.. They’re an easy target :(

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    • *lost and frightened, damn my typing..

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    • You can’t do that. The government would probably just leave them there to die, or at best, have loads of meetings about the “situation”, establish a committee to look into it for a few years, and come up with some recommendations.

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  • While we are paying the former chief FG party hack almost €170k/year to organise a piss-up, we will continue to be the laughing stock of the world. Time to declare the second Republic and any party espousing such a move gets my vote.

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  • What is wrong with this country, in three years time will we be in a position that FF/FG will form a goverment. How long will we allow these “public servants” to speak down to us. Your can count on one hand the number of politicians that have any right to hold any sort of office. Everything now is debated in the media, while in dail eireann very few even bother to turn up other then to sign in. Every issue brought forward by the opposition and debated is rejected by every goverment normally sighting that they are going to publish a better bit of legislation which never happens. This lack of direction is infecting the whole civil service who can’t move forward until Parliament makes decisions. Yes this budget is tough on everyone but we bailout banks who are bust but are still paying themselves half a million a year for failing. we bailout the church. CIE will need taxpayer money to run a service which is competing against private company’s who can make a profit. why are we paying carbon taxes on fossil fuel causing family’s and elderly people to turning off heating while the biggest offenders USA and china won’t even sign up to modest targets. Until everyone in this country unites and demands reform, accountability and open goverment. We will never move forward.

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  • This was so predictable; wait until the Labour TD’s have defended the Budget and said it was fair and then have the FG’ers come in and say the cuts are unpalatable. One nill FG. Fidelma is a bit of a drain on the tax payers herself though, I thought she’d be keeping a lower profile.

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  • That’s the trouble you see, they’re still very much playing politics instead of fixing the country.

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  • AHHH phuukkkinn jaysis…

    Tomorrows headline.

    Fine Gael moves to the left of Labour.

    Truly bread-run, the end beist nigh.

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  • I have just learnt, that The Revenue will have the power to enter a persons home. To inspect it and asess a proper valuation, is this the sign of things to come in Europe? Can the Journal.ie, check this out?

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  • JakkiB 08/12/12 #

    She is a token and nothing more, Just like Harney was, Kenny & Gilmore choose Her to do all the dirty work as it won’t look so bad coming from a woman! How can she sleep at night?? What is up with these women?? She is another Harney and allowing herself to be used as a woman to try and sweeten the blow…

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    • As a woman she should be ashamed of herself for treating the disabled and carers in this way and robbing children and women on maternity benefit. This is the lowest of the low.

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  • Talk of sacrifice is over used these days, but does apply to people who care at home, many giving up jobs and friends to do so , for gods sake reverse this stupid decision

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  • This has to be another Stunt by those Stunts. If we keep the Idiots talking about this one measure they will forget about the rest of the Budget. Labor will claim a Victory when it is reversed. It is emotional Blackmail on the Carers, they know they will not bring their Loved one’s to the Nearest Hospital with a Letter of Resignation and just walk away leaving the State with a Hell of a problem.

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  • If the Snakes in Government do not willingly roll back on respite grant cut then they will be forced too simple as that.

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  • What sickens me is Joan burton when in opposition was always on about the children since she took over in her department no one is safe from her cuts especially children with special needs her department is doing everything in their power to stop people getting what they are entitled too

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  • A long barrelled rifle hmmmm

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  • Well those to FG people have a choice if the cut is wrong then they will have to vote against it next week if they vote for it well then I guess we will know the value of their principles.

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  • The Ivory Towers are about to crumble when the Blueshirts must teach Laboured left-wing politics :p

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  • Someone made a comment here a while back that they would roll back on this, as part of a political posture. The powers that be have listened to you and grant you this etc.

    he/she might have been on to something.

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    • Happens every year. We do pay a penalty for being listened to though. Last year Ruiri Quinn said he had listened to the people and so would reverse the cuts to Deis schools; but of course he would now have to take a teacher from every primary school to make up the money.

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    • I fully agree, in fact the cynic in me thinks that the respite care cuts were deliberately brought about so they could later be rolled back on so the government would look better. And be able to deny any other roll backs by pointing to the one they did allow.

      Perhaps I’m getting too cynical but after the last 12 weeks of kite flying and frightening people I think this government really do see the population as a bunch idiots whose emotions are there to be manipulated for the advantage of their own agenda.

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    • There were many objectionable parts to the Budget; the Property tax; Child allowance; PRSI adjustment, effect every single family, however the reversal of any of these cost a lot of money. A family with a severely disabled child loses far more than 300 per year on these measures. Yet the measures that will be singled out to be repealed will be the ones that cost the least. If you follow these things you will see the trend.

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    • #Anne- you don’t seem to want ANY cuts. I’ve bad news for you. The country’s broke. You may get used to them. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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  • Assad turned his army on his own people. Our Govt. is turning the Revenue with draconian powers on their own people. And thats O.K.

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  • a right wing politician calling for a left wing politician to roll back on a social welfare cut, bizarre and really sick in a way

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  • It looks that as if the politicians are facing the wrath of their Voters this weekend in their Clinics.If they decide to roll back on this decision who will they go for because they will take it elsewhere.

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  • When pieces of paper (fiat currency) are more important than peoples lives then it’s time to change the system. We are witnessing the end of the world’s banking and monetary system as we know it.

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  • Dario Fo 08/12/12 #

    Don’t see her barking on the box anymore. Saint Enda must have a tight leash on her..

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  • What gets me is how this budget was designed by ‘a gang of four’ with not even their own TD’s having whiff of it until the last minute. This is NOT democracy. We vote our TD’s to represent us in Parliment, how can they if they have no say in the budget making. secondly please do not make out that carer’s are stressed by the relatives they care for…that blames the sick, elderly or disabled person they care for, they are STRESSED by the very little acknowledgement, help, benefits, remuneration they get for the care work they do. This is the fault of our Gov not their loved ones. If all these ‘carer’s’ were EMPLOYED by the state (because they save the state huge amounts in keeping institutional/hospital beds free) their work would be safeguarded by Unions, employment law and such like. Because they are not the Gov can virtually do anything to them. it’s the whole framework of the ‘carer’s’ role that is wrong! I hate the word ‘carer’ anyway. as a disabled person myself, why should my sister, nieve or other become my ‘carer’ they are my sisters my niece and the roles are different. Please God I’ll never need a relative to ‘care’ for me. I’d HATE it!

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    • Margaret you are so right. The govt has removed any last shreds of dignity for our disabled citizens and their carers. I understand you not liking that word too but it’s mostly the truth, people who care end up caring! The govt does use that emotional tie against you

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  • she’s like angela merkel’s ‘evil twin’.a bull-dog in a skirt!

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  • As low as this breed of politicians go I must say dear old Joan is a particularly repulsive one. Carving her name with pride everywhere she goes and in everything she does.

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  • At least FF were just ordinary decent criminals ……

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  • John 08/12/12 #

    Take to the streets and get this gang of wasters out. We need the unions to help with our protests. Unions please set a date for a massive protest march on Dail Eireann.

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  • The people of Ireland are being treated like Al Capone ,we will get them by sending in the taxman ,now the taxman will be hated for doing his job .This government is turning it,s people against each other

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  • I am disgusted by the cuts to carers hours and respite allowance. I am no huge fan of burton. But this pair of fg twits nauseates me even further. Fg rejected a proposal to increase USC on high earners and now we have this pair moaning about the effect of cuts on critical services. This is irresponsible politicking at its worst.

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  • How come there is always some legal or constitutional reason why the government cannot take money from the rich and privileged but when it come to taking money from poor and underprivileged there are no barriers whatsoever. Seems all our laws are rigged to protect the rich !

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  • A Fine Gael TD has urged the minister? How about she urged her own party to consider a third tax band of 48 percent on earnings over €100,000 as Labour suggested? She was “sickened by it [the decision]“. Well I am sickened by such outrageous hypocracy! Her own party forces those brutal cuts by being totally stubborn: No financial transaction tax, not even the slightest increase in corporation tax, no further tax bands, nothing. Can’t get over such cheap, sickening populism. As if we are all stupid!

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  • What kills me is the total lack of invention in everything they do! example: a 1 cent tax on text messages would raise about 120 million! Theres your carers cuts sorted!

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  • How much money do you earn scrap croke park? How much tax do you pay?

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