Them bands do that every year but this is the first time it was on the national news. One of the customers in the pub where I work is from Belfast and he comes to Dublin to get away from all the mayhem every July.

They also stopped outside several catholic primary schools, and did the same little jaunt for 5 minutes, playing the Sash and the Famine song, which is what they are playing on that video. They are a profoundly warped and evil bunch. Yet there are tens of thousands of them.

RUC? So it was taken 15 years ago then? How is that relevant?

RUC/psni whatever they want to be called. They’re the same shower of sectarian bigots they’ve always been.

I agree.As long as there is foreign occupation and rule in parts of Ireland there will always be trouble

It’s an interesting point Seamus! I know for a fact if I set up a group in Ireland of any type that banned say Muslims from joining I’d probably find myself in big trouble very fast! Someone needs to grow a pair up North and ban that “organisation” from marching through contentious areas! I would suggest that ignoring them completely and they might lose interest but they’re bound to just push the limits further and further every year to get the reaction that their marches intend!

If the law applies to one, then the law applies to all. This is the foundation of a just legal system and a civilised society. If it is illegal to discriminate or harass those in Islam, Hindu, Buddhist or other faiths, if it is illegal to harass Catholics as well. Similarly, if it is illegal to threaten, abuse and persecute people for their peaceful political beliefs, then the OO is over the line and has been for some time. There is no justifiable reason for conducting these marches where they are unwelcome. There are plenty of places where they ARE welcome.
Last time I checked, if swastika bearing fascists marched through Jewish neighbourhoods in Germany, they’d be filling up jail cells and court calendars.

The link isn’t working :(

http://youtu.be/My5cf2zlkpo

Shower of flutes. They wanna march in Dublin, right? Let them. See how long they take to run.

Nice idea, but the Orange Order by their very nature are sectarian. They don’t allow non-Protestants to join and nor are non-Protestants encouraged to watch. This is an organisation that venerates Oliver Cromwell on many of their banners, accompanied by flute bands that to a man support or are members of the loyalist paramilitaries.

Life in the North will never move on as long as the Orange Order exists.

If you take the sectarianism, the triumphailism, the hatred of all things Irish, out of it what are you left with? The 12th will turn in to a normal celebration in time, a lot lot smaller, when the above is gone, but the Orange Order and friends will be down to very few members then. As is, it seems that their membership has fallen drastically over the last decade.

As for the 12th being about drinking like Paddy.s day, it is, not that that is a credit to either side. There is a lot to be said about the small town local parade that is has a real element of local and national pride, self-respect.

Wathcing giant paper mache puppets in Dublin, while drunk teens run amok, is missing out on what the parade should and could be bout.

I’m just saying there should be alternative orange festivals on the day to detract from the sectarian shite. Something positive and cultural for people living in the here and now, not in 1690. Some sort of celebration that would eventually replace the protestant/unionist triumphalist repressive nonsense.

Your not allowed to marry a catholic, enter a catholic church or be Godfather to a catholic child. All are enough to have u expelled or forbidden from joining. In a normal world, the Orange Order would be a proscribed org. that would be viewed the same as a Neo Nazi gangs.

The Grand Master of the Order described Tony Blair as a traitor, a turn coat, sold out his faith and people, all for having gone to mass with his wife. I’m no fan of Tony Blair or the RCC but crieky, its a bit extreme for just tagging along with herself.

The Order still live in the pre 1972 era when their power was absolute and catholics widely did not have the vote. Where discrimination was widespread, and the Northern Prime Minister would boast that there was no catholic in Govt. building that was higher than a cleaner. That is the world they want to go back to, the vast vast majority of people do not want that, time for the Orange Order to fall in to line and let its fascist state dream fade in to historical memory.

Agreed with that. Once the OO is so small that it has no power then the hate will start to Fade.

Eamonn the report I read had a SF activist saying how the PSNI man came to his aid and started using his baton on the bandsmen. However don’t let facts impinge on your bigoted opinions