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Charges could see value of pensions drop by 31pc – report

A Department of Social Protection report says costs levied by pension companies can take huge chunks off their value.

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FEES CHARGED by pensions companies can see the value of a person’s pension call by as much as 31 per cent, an official government report has found.

The report by the Department of Social Protection found that a pension fund worth €400,000 could incur charges as much as €120,000.

Someone contributing €250 a month to their pension for 30 years should have a fund worth about €200,000 by the time they retire – or the equivalent of €10,000 per year for each of the 20 years they might expect to live.

If the average annual charge for pension schemes – of 2.18 per cent per year – was applied, however, the final fund ends up dropping in value by €62,000 – meaning the final annual amount is reduced to €6,900.

“A key part of this is to know what level of pension you are likely to receive in retirement and understanding the very significant impact pension charges can have on your final pension fund,” social protection minister Joan Burton said.

“The report shows that apparently small percentages can add up to big reductions in a pension fund over time.”

The report finds that though some occupational pension schemes are priced competitively, many individuals and pension schemes are paying more than they need – with some schemes burdened by major administrative costs.

Bruton said she would prioritise her work in the pensions area, and encouraged consumers to compare prices and obtain the best value in any pension schemes they were considering.

The report makes a series of recommendations on how to improve best practice in the pensions industry, including developing a communications action plan about pension charges and improving trustees’ knowledge and awareness of pensions charges.

The Department is also to undertake further research to see why consumers choose certain pension products, and ensure data on charges is collected by the Central Bank and Pensions Board on a regular basis so that charges can be further scrutinised.

In full: The report on pension charges in Ireland (PDF)

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Comments (28 Comments)

  • Why not replace current system with citizens being able to put money into state owned savings account paying, say 5%, interest + 25% top up on each payment in to replace tax relief. No need for fees, and cheap source of funding for the state.

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  • Boy am I glad I bought an apartment in 2006,going to be a sweet payday for me in 2041

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  • No mention of the theft the government committed on private pensions.

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    • Probably because its a different news story.

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    • Its about pensions?advising people of the charges, is what the government done not another charge.I would have thought it is relevant.

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    • @Norman. The government plundered public pensions long before private ones.

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    • Care to explain Ruairi?

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    • No thanks. Look it up. I’m sure you’re well capable. All the information you need about pension levies, both public and private is right there at your fingertips.

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    • a bit rich, the government criticising anyone for thieving from ireland’s most vulnerable. Clearly they don’t appreciate the competition from equally dishonest fund managers.
      Remember, this from last year.

      “The other eye-catching wheeze is a levy of 0.6% per annum on the capital amounts saved in pension funds. The retirement incomes of workers in the private and commercial semi-state sectors are paid out of the assets contributed over the years to occupational pension funds.

      Many of these funds are inadequate due to improving life expectancy and the weak investment returns of the last decade. As a result both employers and employees are facing higher contributions in future as well as reduced benefits. Those with the foresight to choose employment in the public service are exempt from the new levy, since the public service does not bother to fund its pension obligations.

      The Minister for Finance, Michael Noonan, looked a bit uncomfortable while explaining this measure on television on Tuesday evening. His justifications included an argument to the effect that much pension fund saving is invested abroad, and that his plan will see these funds ‘brought home to invest in jobs.’ Sadly some pension funds were foolish enough to invest in Ireland, in safe Irish banks and even safer Irish government bonds for example, and are nursing the biggest losses for their pains. But they will have to fork out the levy regardless, since it applies to all funded pension schemes.”

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    • Ruairi i’m not in the public sector,so honestly you feel no reason to explain i see no reason to search for myself.The only thing i will say is there is no pension scheme for public sector workers it comes out of currant expenditure whereas in the private sector there is a fund.This is the fund the government raided.

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  • I can’t understand why people don’t take full control of their pensions and invest them directly in long term fixed return state backed projects admittedly they would only get 5% pa for 10 years. Not exciting enough for brokers or more likely no chance to get paid for shifting the money around.

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  • Old news. Scam going on since ’40s or earlier. Pay a fee to be screwed by ‘professionals’ with no guarantees of profitable return. (but we’ll try our very best, but take management charge either way, and a big greedy bonus if we(read: The Market), do really well for you). Never, ever, let another man mind your hard earned money.

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  • What individuals need to do is ask their advisers the following; what is the annual management charge? What is the net allocation rate, i.e. for every €100 contributed, how much is actually invested? How has the fund performed. You should not tolerate allocation rates of 95% and management charges of over 1.35%. Ask your adviser what ongoing commission they are making. If the answers to the above are not satisfactory go to an independent adviser and get them to research the market for a better deal.

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  • I’m im saving in gold and silver. Hasn’t gone to zero in over 5000 years unlike AIB or similar pension scams. Worst case I’ll be hedged against inflation best case they’ll keep printing dollars and euros till the cows come home and ill have a tank.

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    • @Paul Simmons. But, not to be personal on a very public site, do you have your gold and silver ad manum…, manus?? not sure of conjunction? Otherwise, ETFs, bank shares or whatever are like others, unless it’s in your paw, it’s not yours, so to speak! ‘Cos they can issue the cert but when it comes to collection….zip,zilch,zero.

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  • Private sector pensions are an elaborate scam, with most of the loot going to the pension fund “managers”.

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  • Here we go .

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  • balls. your pension b worth fk all anyways. eat and drink your way to a happier life.

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  • Back door to look at state pensions me thinks ! Ummm?? No risk and index linked. What a deal!!

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  • If one retires say at 60 years old the government insists that €119,800 of the fund is locked away with no access and dam all interest until you reach the age of 75 with pensions managers creaming off the fund annually with excessive charges. It’s unjust and ridiculous.

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    • @Jack Jack. I agree that having to lock away €119,800 is ridiculous. Huge lack of foresight limiting the options of the majority of people in private pensions. In the past five years they has slowly been an introduction of better managed funds resulting in more consistent returns.

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  • I have no illusion that the system as it is will fail and as a result I will most likely have to work until I die or suffer a rather drastic fall in my standard of living when I die. I am afraid the baby-boomer generation has spent all their money, borrowed from my future and my kids future and established a monetary system of fiat money which will, there is no doubt, continue to lose its value. The people need to wake up and realise that they are spending 80% of their income on tax, interest and insurance and whatever they manage to put into their pension is eroded by management fees, inflation and more blatantly – expropriation. Now the ‘higher’ earners (anyone slightly above the average wage) will also pay higher rate of tax on whatever they manage to put into pensions. I really can’t understand how the system has developed in this fashion but for sure this will not end up well.

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  • Pensions are a fantastic option for both employer & employee, if you don’t use a proper independent financial advisor don’t expect proper independent financial advice!!!

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  • If you are concerned about your pension contact myself noel@planalife.ie simple independent advice !!
    I can do a full report outlining all charges allocations etc.
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