Shit. We’re all fucked… well the low and middle incomers are…

If they want to cut back on children’s allowance why don’t they only pay it to family’s living in the state

The bottom line of the budget so far appears to be blanket cuts across the board that are not targeted at higher earners. The children’s allowance should have been cut more for those who least need it and not cut for those who do, similarly for the back to school clothing allowance, this will hugely affect low earning families come next September when they are trying to buy school books and uniforms, but the ones who can already afford them comfortably will continue to afford them comfortably.

Changing social welfare payments from 6 days to 5 days is a disincentive for those who can get a day or two of work here and there to bother with part time work at all.

With all the talk by the government of encouraging people to take up courses and return to education in order to get back on to the workforce, the cuts to the student grant and raising of third level fees proves that the original policy is just bullshit.

Increasing the payment by €12 for couples weekly rent is unfair as couples do not get double the amount of social welfare, the 2nd claimant or qualified adult gets less, so this cut is unfair on couples and families, and amounts to €52 per month, which is a lot if you don’t have it. Particularly when the household charge comes in for landlords and this is eventually passed on to tenants.

I found the whole thing a bit hard to swallow when you factor in Enda Kenny’s pay rise for his crony friend, which I have not heard any defence for as if yet.

Across the board, people have less money, will spend less money and coupled with tax hikes and VAT increases yet to come, will kill what’s left of the economy, retail will be hit particularly badly and the dole queues will get longer.

The general lack of forward thinking has almost become as expected.

Still no dole or payments for ex self employed . Maybe tmoro we will see happens .hope diesel and petrol get fixed price at 1.35 per litre as its now not right that they garages charge what they like.

Because I’m employed nearly nothing of today has effected me par the drug payment scheme. Personally I never could understand child allowance why would you pay for having had children? now before people get angry I am a firm believer in protecting/supporting the most vulnerable in society but always a tad bit confused as to why it was never means tested! Surely that is a saving in itself?

It’s a bit like Christmas isn’t it. Wonderful warm feeling of intense joy.
If only I could feel like this again. O I can . Tomorrow of course and then for the next ten years . How marvellous

Dail bar packed to the rafters according to six one news.
TD’S one big club screwing all us fools.

At least everyone got to have a good laugh watching it today when the Fianna Fail speaker was trying to slag the government about looking after their friends.

Was watching TV3 news and your one Colette Fitzpatrick says that people that receive the children’s allowance don’t actually need it and that most people that get it will spend it on luxury items. Since when did buying your child food and getting them shoes become a luxury item. Who the hell does she think she is. She doesn’t have to worry with her executive salary

Question for michelle etc. .. Where are the dads of these kids of lone parents !! I work my butt off as does my husband. We pay for everything we get and probably contribute towards at least 1 lone parents yearly social welfare. Why should our kids lose out on stuff because we are taxed to hilt to pay for other people’s kids who contribute nothing. Sick of the entitled commenting on their rights when they contribute nothing !!

I think this budget reaffirms my decision to emigrate next year.

Why don’t they lead by example and take a big cut in salary themselves? Why don’t they live on the same average rate as a low income family? This isn’t a monarchy, if it’s good enough for the people of Ireland it should be good enough for the leaders of Ireland

What’s with having a budget over 2 days?? Does it take that long to translate it from German?

What a load of liathróidí

Child benefit should be means tested, I know of one couple with 2 kids that have a combined income over 150k pa that just put the child benefit straight into the holiday spending money fund!!! FFS I had to use last months to tax my car so I can get the kids to school safely and get out and find work, god forbid i did as jesusnoballs suggests we unemployed do and that’s sit on my arse complaining! Oh and as for emailing cv’s it’s a digital age Jesus, lots of companies request you email cv’s

However it was not all cuts as FF spokesman Sean Flemming stated in the Dail. He told everyone….

On December 1st, FG/Labour allowed a 17% increase in their travel expenses, a 23% increase in their office expenditure (others only got 15% increase). …With a lot more increases to TD’s in power.

Say “Thank you Enda!”

not wanting to tar them all with the same brush but it does happen unfortunately.

We’ll tighten our belts Enda, you and your mates loosen them, again!!! Pri@ks!!

we are all taking it again and wait til tomorow,the more we sit down and do nothing the more these guys in power will give it to us good and hard.

Some of the dads are also claiming dole as a seperate claim so they can get more or working and paying the mothers in cash as a kind of arrangement so she can keep her lone parents. Some are arseholes that can’t be bothered and the mothers are genuinely stuck.

There are families who must be in real shock tonight. Imagine: you’re a young widow, or you’ve been deserted. Your income is primarily from social welfare, with perhaps one person in the household in low paid part-time work. You have a young adult (under 24) in the household, maybe with cystic fibrosis or autism, whose disability allowance is being cut by €88 per week! That’s a lot of money even for people on good income. The younger ones’ child benefit is cut. Next September the back to school allowance is cut. VAT up. Fuel allowance period cut by 6 weeks. Carbon tax increases to be announced tomorrow. And PRSI contributions to qualify for the widows’ pension trebled…

Thieves

And what are we going to do about it, zip. Bend over and ask for more.

Today was the easier part (if thats possible!).

-Tomorrow… WALLOP!!!

Just go get a job and get off the dole!!! There are feck all jobs, feck all money going around and this budget will make this situation alot worse.

All the ministers, TDs & advisors & they come up wth this, I’m not effing joking here but I could of done this wth a bloody calculator. How are jobs going to come out of this shite ?

Considering the fix we’re in, I think they have produced a decent first half. I have one issue though, I do believe a 5% or more cut in Minister, TD and any public and civil servant wages over €65k would have made all other cuts that much more palatable. Saying that though there will be cuts in overtime and changes in sick leave etc so that should start to address some of the wage issues just not as fairly. Life was never fair though.

I don’t think they went far enough in the budget. Firstly why should employers get a rebate for making people redundant ? Why is child benefit so high, surely a flat rate of €100 is enough. Although I do think this should be means tested. Reduce rent supplement by more, thus taking the bottom out of the market.
Reduce State pension to a max of €50,000 and only pay it to people once they hit 65, this is more than enough to live on. Have a max amount a person can claim from welfare. This is to stop the welfare trap where people on welfare are better off than people who work. This should never be the case. If you don’t have a job then you should be scrapping by, that is the incentive to go out there and work, you should not be looking for handouts.

Where are the dads of these kids of lone parents !! I work my butt off as does my husband. We pay for everything we get and probably contribute towards at least 1 lone parents yearly social welfare. Why should our kids lose out on stuff because we are taxed to hilt to pay for other people’s kids who contribute nothing. Sick of the entitled commenting on their rights when they contribute nothing !!

Do as we say don’t do as we do

We need way more cuts to welfare and the spongebob’s who treat it as a life style choice, People sitting on couches complaining that there is nothing out there, I walked by loads of shops & restaurants who are looking for full or part-time workers but people wouldn’t do these jobs as its alot easier to sit at home and bitch and moan while getting hand outs, Sending off CV’s by email to companies and then convincing yourself there is nothing out there because no-one gets back to you is the perfect excuse not to really get off the dole and get a job. Have a kid and you’ll get a house and loads of free money and medical, have enough kids and you’ll never have to work, Times have changed and I’m delighted, Time to get rid of the lazy and useless who contribute nothing to Irish society. How many times do we have to listen to “Oh but there’s nothing out there” BULLSHIT, There are jobs, (maybe not your ideal job) but people don’t want to do them, (I’m away above that type of work, Its for foreigners etc..) Get out, meet people and be prepared to do that job that you wouldn’t have done a few years ago or else piss off abroad and complain over there. Sick of the moaners!!

The two part time workers I know are hit hard – one of them is only on two hours a day over four days and taking in 87 euros a week and facing the prospect of loosing a day of social welfare – the other is a bit better off as she has three full days. They have punished the people who are out trying to get on and left the other social welfare claimants alone to keep their basic rates. They would both gladly do more days and hours if only they could get them.

I have only skimmed the budget so far and some of the info I have is hearsay. If it’s true that disability is cut by 88 Euro – that is shocking. Back to school allowance and child allowance cuts will be felt very severely by those on low incomes and s. welfare. Those on high salaries seem to be getting off lightly, so far….

Also surprised, in light of Enda’s intentions re creating jobs, he is not incentivising those on jobseekers to take up part time work, which might have given hope to unemployed people . Very bad move there. People will probably not bother to try and get part time work, which apart from the financial benefit it might have made would also have been good for the health (mental) of those out of work. The worst part of this budget is it hit the most vulnerable – those on disability and of course the sick. But having said all of that – tomorrow is another day and hopefully those on social welfare and low incomes will not be further out of pocket with tomorrow’s part of the budget.

What do you expect when the public sector is immune from pay cuts and social welfare is also immune? At least the cuts are spread out. What would you cut instead that would lead to same savings without cutting public sector pay or social welfare? Giving out Unless you have a better solution is pointless. Everybody interviewed says the cuts are unbearable. Jack o Connor is quiet. Hint! Hint!

same shit diffrent year rich get richer poor get shafted as usual gobshites running country just admit they have made a complete fucking mess of our country i think we still have some say punt PUNT punt just bite the bullet and admit you pack of gobshites made taking the euro on board is the worst decision since charles haughey

Today was not easy for the lone parents of the country rent allowance contributions increased, age limited reduced massively, fuel allowance cut, the amount your allowed to earn before loosing some of your lone parents reduced to €130 – really makes you want to go out to find that part time job now doesn’t it. Then if you do go out and find a full time job the six month cross over payment is now also gone. So what is one to do, If I go out now and get a job earning €24,000 a year once i pay petrol, childcare, rent etc I would be worse off than i Currently am at the moment. This country getting more frustrating by the day at least if you are unemployed without kids you can leave and get a job abroad.

I actually think its more impressive to email your cv – it shows you can use a computer.

Simple. Disaster.

These Ministers have us by the Balls ( I dont have any, I was castrated at a tender young age) but I still feel the pain….
The harder they squeeze the more we squeal but thats all we seem to do.

How about everyone breaking out and not paying?
Remove your balls from their vice …

simply we have to say no to the paying out of unsecured bondholders. We as a nation have to stand up and say NO we are not going to punish our selves and our children just too save face. What a load of bullshit. My dad lost his job in the eighty s and it was more important to save face back then then than to face up to reality. His father (my grand day) fought for the independence of this country. We have to stand up and say no we are not going to be good children in Europe and do what we are told. It is time to lead and have a thick neck in Europe and grow a pair. I carried my dads coffin in November after he lost his 2 year battle with battle with cancer. We are all only renting on this planet it is time to cut the crap and think of whats important, life and what we do with it. Let’s make capitalism work and let the people who gambled take the fact there horse did not finish AND THEY HAVE LOST THERE MONEY!

To David & Luke: Omg that’s so weird Yeah he was the girl with Francie and Luke. Remember me Luke ;D

Meant to say *He was the lad with Francie and i was that girl¡