Are you bragging cause your husband working then? lol

He didn’t say that did he??

Up there with him standing at the main entrance of the Shannon Ind Est waving to the cars morning and evening in previous GE’s :-)

Roughly the same percentage who admit to voting yes in the Lisbon Treaty now.

I voted yes to Lisbon.

That said, regardless of the outcome it will be hard to find anyone who will admit to voting yes to the suicide compact in years to come.

Even if the overall vote is yes, I am increasingly optimistic that this idiocy will be overtaken by events. Either Merkel will see reason or she’ll be gone.

No, the story is in WHERE the low turnout is.

Donegal, Cavan/Monaghan, Inner city North Dublin/Cork all experiencing very low turnout.

These are big NO areas in European referenda.

My conclusion is that the NO side is staying home today.

Yes there will be low turnout overall, but it mightn’t have the dent on the YES side that many have predicted.

what you seem to be forgetting David is that the NO people are more determined to go out and vote and feel more strongly about it, as the majority of blogs and even comments on websites show. Not one place is going to get a 100% yes vote, so its quite possibly that the ones that have come out, regardless of place, could be mainly no votes.

I suspect you’re right David.
I thought we had more fight in us than that in Ireland.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithe_War

David, don’t be so smug. A yes vote with a low turnout would just demonstrate that we’re a beaten people. I’m still optimistic.

I saw you on Euronews last night David with your two chums in the t-shirts.

Older people generally turn out to vote more so than younger people.
Older people are the strongest yes demographic according to the most recent polls.
So I would suggest that low turnout would be good news for the yes? I’m just speculating of course.

Either way everyone get out and vote! Syrians are dying for the kind of opportunity that we have today.

Makes sense Ignoreland.
Older voters won’t be paying off these debts for the next three decades.

Sinead, as much as there are a lot of deluded rabid no voters on this forum, the numbers of participants/posters is still very small and does not reflect the voting intentions of the nation at all

That’s hardly the journals fault Dave.
Why don’t you raise it at the next FG meeting?

Gilmore’ away with the fairies if he believes Ireland will be able to get any funding.

“Without access to European bailout funds, there is no “fairy godmother” willing to unconditionally fund Ireland when the current aid program ends in 2013, Deputy Prime Minister Eamon Gilmore told RTE yesterday.”
Bloomberg

I’d like to, but I can’t as I’m working about 200 miles away from my station.
I should be able to vote anywhere!!

Why didn’t you register to vote in a place where you’re actually capable of voting?

I did the same. For the record I am employed and treading water financially. Doing better than most at present. But I am not stupid. I know this is Germany’s deal, to protect the elite of Germany’s federal Europe model. For the record it’s the last time I vote. I have no faith in government or public institutions. I’d rather deal with the private for my needs than the public.

Our “leaders” did everything they could to avoid a referendum but the AG advised that a referendum is required under Irish law.

….Jesus, where is the noose?

PJ don’t give up the day job

lol

Waiting for the sad verse.

I’d imagine there wouldn’t be so much voter apathy if this report came out a few days ago.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2012/0531/ireland/political-donations-under-the-radar-195723.html

Draghi turns on Merkel, the Euro-farce hits new lows.
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/merkel-s-isolation-deepens-as-draghi-criticzes-strategy.html

I know I said this before in another thread but I’m really going to miss all this referendum craic; especially the poems!
No More poems,
Because the Vote’s today,
Make sure that you all cast your ballot,
Answer yay or Nay!

The poetry will always remain deep in your heart Ignoreland. You will always carry the memories of us all with you.

Should I continue to post poems here, even after the referendum is a memory?

Green Thumb for “Of course PJ, don’t be ridiculous!”
Red Thumb for “PJ our lives would be dull and empty without you, stay!”

P.J The people you spoke to today might not be a good indicator of the posible election result

We need a blue extended middle finger one quick journal. ; )

keep spitting them out PJ

PJ I thought that was really good. Don’t mind the haters. Me and my brother both live in America now and I miss my mammy and my home house very much. So it touched me. Good for you. Very talented.

@Joanne Thank you very much. I appreciate your kind words :)

Was in conversation with several older people this evening. They all voted yes (as did I).

It’s a greasy-type thick black pencil that can’t be erased…

Err, this is illegal according to EU law, apparently…

Or am I mistaken?

I brought my own ink pen.

I’m not advocating a yes (or no) vote here; just suggesting that to vote in a particular direction when you don’t understand what you’re voting for is surely, at best, unreasonable. If I said to you “would you like me to implant a flux capacitor in you”, would you say “yes” or “no” without knowing what a flux capacitor is? Perhaps it would be extremely beneficial to you. Perhaps it would kill you. But without knowing, surely a sane person would say “I don’t know”.

I don’t suppose that it occurred to him that he could have done some small amount of reading to try to understand it. That’s the youth of today yadda yadda. Man, I’m getting old. When I was 22, people were able to find things by themselves.

A no vote keeps the Constitution the way it is. To me it is the sensible option for the undecided. At least you’ve gone for the status quo.

Voting yes to change the constitution for anything less than a 99% certainty that it is the right thing to do seems like the mad option to me.

I appreciate your point, Auntie, but going for the status quo is not necessarily the safe option. To introduce another metaphor: if my status quo includes a tumour slowly but surely invading my system, I sure as hell wouldn’t vote for it!

From their Mammies house?

I’m employed and i voted no.

All employed people will vote yes? What an eejit.

I got a letter about feb saying I needed to reply to stay on the register of electors, I replied back and thank god I was on it to make my vote today. I know a few people who didn’t get polling cards maybe something like what happened to you is the same with them

If you’re not sure which way to vote, vote No.
Who knows how things will develop in the next few months.
Then you get a second go. Same as Lisbon.

Jaysus, the old punt! Haven’t seen one of those in donkeys years

It will make a difference.

Somebody recently posted the Roosevelt quote:
A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.

Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. (Winston Churchill)

@Arch: You mean the same intelligent demographic that voted ‘YES for Jobs and Yes For Lisbon’?

I could make a very long list of economists, academics and Nobel prize winners who are also advocating for a NO vote. Just goes to show how obedient sheep like you believe all they read in a newspaper and just follow the herd. Go away you ignorant uneducated imbecile and don’t be irritating me.

Arch the keyboard warrior if you said that to my face I would slap you silly !! Easy to slag people from the safety of your keyboard . Muppet ….

Hmmm, Nobel prizing winning economist Krugman is an unemployed, lazy, idiot?

Simon Carswell. Unemployed, lazy, idiot?
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2012/0530/1224316912216.html

David McWilliams. Unemployed, lazy, idiot?

Look in the mirror.

Nice touch Arch.
450,000 unemployed because they’re lazy.
I never really looked at it that way.
Right up there with putting the crisis down to the Irish being mad in the head.

Looks like you’ve just been put right in your box LOL Boooom !!

I would say it probably says more about who is being screwed more by austerity policies at present and how voting yes offers more of the same indefinitely.
The overall tone of your comment suggests your head is so far up your own hole austerity couldn’t reach it.

Are you waiting for the second coming?

“Until a real man of the people with no greed and craving for money leads us we dont have a choice in the matter.”, Well the time to start a grass roots movement is now. There’s no point in waiting until the next election when it’ll be too late.

Englishman Martin Critten seems keen to do just that (http://www.thejournal.ie/it-doesnt-stop-here-man-promises-new-political-party-after-123-mile-walk-460908-May2012/) Of course as a non-citizen he can’t stand as a TD. He needs some Irish men and women who share his concerns to stand up against the Dail Families and the career politicians and ask to represent the people of their country using their independent knowledge and concern to create a movement that can truly represent what people actually want.

Why don’t you call him?

I’m part of the people and I truly what exactly the system we have in place right now…. no hippies in the Dail thank you very much.

Aside from that, you can’t really blame FG/L for FF’s misgivings -it’s like blaming the cleaner for the mess created by others. But nevermind, you idiots don’t care. Vote no for the sake of annoying the government. Great job lads

Ah well if there are successful folk that don’t vote then that’s the clincher – it must be a waste of time.
I know loads of people who smoke and don’t have cancer so,…..well you know where I’m going with that.

We get the politicians that we elect in general elections. And the constitution only gets changed when a majority of the people agree to it. So blame your fellow misguided citizens rather than opting out and grumbling about the futility of being able to have a say in the process – you know there are several countries where the ‘opt out’ is compulsory and bad as you might think it is here, those countries don’t seem to have the best history of corruption free leadership or respect for citizens.

So instead of being the hurler on the ditch waiting for your mythical messiah and bemoaning the motives and efforts of all those who do participate, why not do something yourself. You could start with a vote.

Where do you live Martin? North Korea?