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Column: Want to appeal a social welfare decision? Be warned: it’s a bureaucratic maze

Almost half of social welfare appeals are successful – but it can take years for people to be heard and the system is patently unfair, writes Saoirse Brady.

Saoirse Brady

This week FLAC published a report which looked at Ireland’s complex social welfare appeals system and whether it’s fair or not. Here, Saoirse Brady explains what they found:

‘MARY’ IS A woman raising her children alone in Cork. With no financial or other support from her former partner and in the middle of a complicated family law process that made assessing her income quite difficult, she was refused lone parent support payment. Desperate, she turned to MABS for money advice, and was lucky enough to be referred to a social welfare adviser who helped her to re-apply and then appeal the refusal of her social welfare application. Although she had no income and several children to support, she was repeatedly denied state support. However, knowing she had a legitimate claim and with the support of her adviser, she kept up her appeal. In the end, it took Mary five years to actually receive her payment, three of which were spent appealing a refusal of her social welfare application. She is now working and studying and counts herself luckier than many people, as she had adequate support throughout.

It would seem straightforward to argue that nobody should have to wait for such a protracted length of time for a payment on which he or she might be completely dependent. Mary was able to access an emergency payment while waiting on a decision, but many people are refused even this meagre support. So just how effective – or even fair – is the system of appeals presented to people in Ireland?

The responsible office is the Social Welfare Appeals Office, which is a quasi-judicial body – in other words, it is an administrative body which exercises powers or functions similar to a judge. The Appeals Office determines whether or not a Deciding Officer in the Department of Social Protection was correct to refuse a claim for a social welfare payment. However, despite its role as adjudicator over disputed decisions of the Department, the Appeals Office is not an independent statutory body. It is in fact an office of the Department of Social Protection, and Appeals Officers are employees of that department.

One of the fundamental cornerstones of natural justice enshrined in both the Constitution and the European Convention on Human Rights is the right to fair procedures. FLAC’s report on the issue examines the various components of fair procedures as interpreted by the European Court of Human Rights. This includes the independence of the tribunal and its employees. It also requires a level playing field between the person making the appeal and the Department. That means equal access to information, the right to an oral hearing for people making appeals, legal assistance where needed and reasonable processing times. In light of these factors, the Appeals Office would seem to fall short of standards on fair procedures.

“They are faced with a legal and bureaucratic labyrinth…”

The Appeals Office was initially intended to be a forum where people appealing a social welfare decision, or appellants, could present their own cases in an informal way. Now, however, Appeals Officers must be aware of complex areas of law, including social welfare legislation and regulations, European Union law and international human rights obligations.

The social welfare appeals scheme is a maze of different options to appeal – we had great difficulty even to sketch a simplified diagram of it in our report – involving a variety of public servants, regulations and laws. Although they are faced with a legal and bureaucratic labyrinth, appellants are barred from getting representation in a social welfare appeal through the civil legal aid scheme. Those who realise they need help to navigate such a complex system and to understand the law and regulations may turn to independent organisations or Citizens Information Centres.

Alternatively, they may just represent themselves and where claimants are refused payments due to a misunderstanding of their circumstances, this may be the most appropriate option. On the other hand, where complicated legal rules or technicalities are involved, they may require legal advice and representation to ensure that the process is not weighted against the appellant.

In fact, appellants are an unequal footing from the start as they do not automatically have access to all information on their social welfare file. They must specifically request it. Nor are they allowed access to previous decisions which may be relevant to their case. Furthermore, appellants will not know who has decided their case, as the name of the Appeals Officer does not appear on the standard decision letter. They are not even sent a copy of the full Appeals Officer’s report on the decision unless they ask for it, whereas it is automatically put on their file and sent back to the relevant payment section of the Department. This lack of transparency goes against appellants’ right to access justice and can result in inconsistent decision-making and a lack of faith in the system.

Almost half of appeals led to decision being overturned…

In recent years, more appeals are being decided based on the written evidence only, despite the fact that appellants have a higher success rate when an oral hearing is held. The Ombudsman Emily O’Reilly also noted this concern while launching the FLAC report and talked about how crucial it is for a person to be able to speak in person about his or her situation.

In 2011, some 42 per cent of appeals led to decisions being overturned. In fact, in 18 per cent of the overall number of appeals, the decision was reversed by the original Department staff member being asked to review his or her own conclusion. These figures indicate flaws in the initial application and decision-making process. Under the current system people may be denied their entitlements for more than a year at a time due to the lengthy delays at the Appeals Office. If more support was given to both administrators and applicants at the outset this would improve first-instance decision-making and hopefully avoid unnecessary appeals.

In the current economic climate, the State has to ensure that it is complying with international human rights standards by maximising its resources and ensuring the protection of the most vulnerable, rather than wasting its limited funds on needless bureaucracy and ineffective systems.

Saoirse Brady is FLAC’s Policy and Advocacy Officer. Saoirse is responsible for FLAC’s policy work on social welfare law reform and is the author of One Size Doesn’t Fit All (2009), a legal analysis of the State’s direct provision and dispersal system for asylum seekers, and Not Fair Enough, which can be read here.

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Comments (37 Comments)

  • So glad somebody is writing about this. I applied for disability allowance 2 years ago, was refused three times and, on the third refusal, was informed by a woman over the phone in the office that ‘we’re refusing everybody and hoping some of you will give up’. I waited a full year for an oral hearing after this. I spent about ten minutes at the oral hearing (which, incidentally, was conducted by just one man so you better hope you get him on a good day!) and finally three weeks ago I was awarded disability allowance. During those two years I was treated like some form of criminal by everyone in the social welfare, with the exception of one kind community welfare officer, and I almost gave up so many times as the stress of the whole process was making me sicker every day. The department is understaffed and they have the most complex ways of getting information. Even now, although my payment was awarded, I have not gotten any money as the information has to travel across the bureaucratic maze that is the social welfare office. There must be a more efficient way to do the work that they do.

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  • Very good article. What I find amazing is that going to social welfare I was given almost completely opposite advice and way of proceedings on different occasions while speaking to different clerks about the same thing. There is either lack of training among staff or lack of proper flow of information. Taxpayer should not need to prove their rights there. If I bring my car to mechanic I expect him to tell me what is wrong with car not the other way round. Also many of SW things are over complicated and not entirely clear how to interpret them. Thanks I did not need do deal with them a lot, but exactly can understand some people position and frustration.

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    • I find it funny it took this woman 5years to get help but we have thousands of foreigners that have no problems getting our welfare of finding help if it took them this long it would be in every paper and news channel playing the discrimination card

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    • Vinnie the only people i see that is being discriminated in ireland are the irish the foreigners have no problem getting protection thanks to our legal eagles

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    • One thing about the foreigners is that they will have all their forms ready with i’s dotted and t’s crossed. The social welfare are like robots so you need to treat them as such, theyre not there to give out sympathy

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    • Dead right, lads. Sure isn’t the country run by foreigners? What I want to see is politicians producing their birth certificates before running for office. It’s the done thing in any modern democracy, especially one like ours where foreigners are trying to destroy our wealth and our way of life!

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    • Great points, Fizi. Nicely hijacked by the responders. Foreigners have to jump through the same hoops in appeal as citizens and if you don’t have all the i’s dotted and t’s crossed you’re being a fool: it’s a ridiculous sense of entitlement to think you don’t have to have your forms filled properly.

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    • @ John… That’s the same kind of twisted ideology that led to Anders Breivik to kill all those people in Norway. Racism and/or extreme nationalism also fueled Nazism and the KKK. I don’t think you mean it in that context but you might want to reexamine what you think and why.

      I’m from Wexford and most of the “foreigners” that came here in the boom are gone back. Most of those who remain are working and some have mortgages etc. and if they are planing to spend the rest of their lives here, I feel they are entitled to help when they fall on hard times. I don’t accept that the system shows them any favoritism when making claims, just equality.

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    • I agree, Declan. I was being sarcastic.

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    • Ha ha. Fair play… I wish there was a delete comment button :)

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    • Poor foreigners are getting a good bashing. foreign or not we have plenty of fraudsters.

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    • @ Vinnie: Who’s to say the woman mentioned in the article is Irish?

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  • My girlfriend had to appeal a decision a couple of years ago after finishing college. We were cohabiting so my wages had to be taken into account when she was applying for the dole. I get paid bi-weekly which we clearly stated and even highlighted on my payslip but they still took it that my payslip was weekly, which meant it looked as though i got paid twice what I do. When we appealed they refused to admit that they had made a mistake even though it was obvious, so we had no choice but to give up and assumed that was the end.
    About 6 months later, after the girlfriend had got a job, a check came in the post from the social welfare with a letter saying our appeal was successful! Ridiculous. They made a lot of extra work for themselves. Kept the money though.

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  • Serious lack of training of ppl in social welfare offices is obvious to anyone who has to deal with them. Not unusual to get completly diff story from every new member of staff I had the misfortune to meet a few years ago. I wonder how the individuals I met who were helpful and well informed can stick working next to the idiots who seem to thrive on belittling applicants. I did have to use the appeals process and was successful. My understanding was that step one is to write a letter stating your grounds for complaint and post it to Dublin office. This letter was then returned to local office with instructions to investigate. Daily phonecalls and twice weekly visits from me to keep the pressure on probably didn’t hurt. Best thing I did was print out relevent info from citizensinfo.ie and read it to counter staff when their excuses weren’t making any sense. Hope I never have to go there again.

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    • They hire temps for a few months who have to learn as they go, leave a customer hanging at the cubicle while looking for a superviser to provide an answer. Of course different full timers probably give conflicting answers(once they’ve finished gossiping)

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  • I had to appeal after I lost rent allowance. It was a mistake I had lost it in the first place. It took just over a year and the I never felt so degraded by the social welfare officers! It takes a lot to keep going with the appeal especially when they loose your appeal and you have to begin all over again! I won my appeal as it was ridiculous I lost the rent in the first place. But by god did I have to fight for it!!! Good luck to anyone having to appeal its a long drawn out process. I don’t envy you!

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  • Very good Article Saoirse. I am one of those waiting. My life is on hold and miserable because of this mess.

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  • It doesn’t help that refusals are often based on lies and a thwarted interpretation of their own legislation to justify denying payment. Plus as noted there is no transparancy or accountability in the process on the part of the quango.

    I was refused respite care grant despite fulfilling every criteria, and I was turned down on the basis that I was not full time caring for my child, even though I have beein doing it since his birth. They used their own wording, and changed it slightly to imply I did not fulfill the criteria. After one full year I got the grant.

    I believe it is a political decision from Joan Burton to deny people their legitimate entitlements, and that they reckon only a small percentage will have the stomach for the fight to get what they are legally entitled too.

    Another reason to annihilate Labour at the next election.

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    • It’s deliberately impossible to deal with this Dept. As it’s staff are protected by the Croke park Agreement, Labour will have to be punished for their failure here. Bye bye Joan Burton!

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  • Having had a taste of the uk system,a number of years ago,it became clear to me,that some clever legal minds,designed it in such a way to put ppl off appealing,and we all know the legal system here in ireland,can grind slowly!

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  • Everytime a person goes into a SW office the same forms need to be filled in, all this duplication of information is completely unnecessary and there just to make work for the department, completely ridiculous.

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    • I’ve come to the conclusion its systematic harrassment. I’m one of those idiots that demand their rights and quiz them on their logic.
      Result. Increase in ‘mistakes’. At the moment its fuel allowance unpaid. I’ll be lucky if posting this doesn’t get me arrested for subversion. Hahaha report on ‘cyber-bullying’ on the news as I type.

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    • @Damien. Why don’t you go to the bog for a few days, you will gather enough fuel for the winter. The State don’t have to pay you “fuel allowance” and you have fuel, everyone is a winner…

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  • Only appeal is to emigrate

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  • a lot of the clerks, and supervisors especially, seem to think its their own money

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  • How do I appeal paying the Universal Social Charge (USC)?

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  • I had to appeal after I lost rent allowance. It was a mistake I had lost it in the first place. It took just over a year and the I never felt so degraded by the social welfare officers! It takes a lot to keep going with the appeal especially when they loose your appeal and you have to begin all over again! I won my appeal as it was ridiculous I lost the rent in the first place. But by god did I have to fight for it!!! Good luck to anyone having to appeal its a long drawn out process. I don’t envy you!

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  • My husband has appealed a decision to deny him a invalidity pension. He has been off work since 2009.
    He was getting illness benefit for 2 years before that stopped. They told him to apply for the pension but then turned him down. He is 61 years of age and worked since he was 15 years old first in the Uk and then here. He met the criteria by paying income tax and PRSl during his working life.

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  • I’ve had to put in appeal even though I’ve produced a refusal letter from a company and also completed FAS courses. It has been a total joke, with them making up different stories at every turn, documents appearing then when I tried to get a copy they suddenly disappeared I’ve been told of dates on documents and when I tried to get a copy of it I was told to pay again,(which I did not) and of course when I checked today the date on the document had changed again. There is definite collusion between the DSP and the appeals office, there is no doubt in my mind after the phone call today and of course these useless politically appointed cronies, will stay safe in their pointless jobs as untouchable as the politicians that appointed them, no matter what they do wrong

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  • I don’t know what a tracker mortgage is?!

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  • Finally , something good about the civil service, all that red tape finally gets something (or nothing to be more precise) done

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