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NCA following up on parents’ complaints as Schoolbooks.ie problems continue

Some parents continue to experience problems with book orders and refunds as the National Consumer Agency says it is has received around 250 queries in relation to the online retailer.

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THE NATIONAL CONSUMER Agency (NCA) says it has received around 250 queries in relation to problems parents have been experiencing with the online book retailer, Schoolbooks.ie.

The NCA says that it is “very concerned” that some parents are continuing to experience problems and are being left out of pocket nearly three months after the retailer first encountered problems with a backlog of orders.

Some parents are now resorting to getting refunds for undelivered books through the Small Claims Court having been unable to contact the company regarding money they are owed.

The Fine Gael TD Mary Mitchell O’Connor has called on the managing director of the Schoolbooks.ie, John Cunningham, to make a statement but the company has so far not responded to numerous calls and emails from TheJournal.ie asking for a comment.

The problems first began in mid-August when dozens of parents raised concerns that their children were about to return school in some cases with no books at all after orders failed to materialise weeks after they were placed.

Refunds

The company acknowledged a backlog of orders and apologised, claiming in a series of statements that the backlog was about to be cleared but some parents are still awaiting the delivery of books ordered in August while others have cancelled their order but not yet been refunded.

Father-of-two Conor Buckley placed an order for €200 worth of books for his son and daughter on 17 August but did not receive all of the books when they were delivered a few days later. Now in October, he is awaiting €70 worth of books and has been unable to contact the company to find out when they will be delivered.

He said: “It’s ridiculous because we have used them for three or four years and it’s all been perfect but this year… We’ve heard nothing from the company, no communication at all from them. My wife called twice a week, emailed them twice a week, that’s been since the 30 August. So over a month and no response at all.”

Buckley says he will “never, never” use Schoolbooks.ie again. Galway-based Lorainne Kilcar is waiting for over €60 worth of books that she ordered on 7 August when she placed an order totalling €348, most of which only arrived on 21 September.

In an email to the company, which she has not received a response to, she wrote:  ”My daughter goes to and from school on a bus which picks her up five miles away from home; therefore, it is not an option to go into school early or to stay late after school to use someone else’s books for study and homework; the situation for those affected by the inefficiency of SchoolBooks.ie is untenable and is causing undue stress to students.”

Out of pocket

In another case, mother-of-one Emma Dowling says she is still waiting for a refund of €60 for a book order she cancelled on 20 September.  ”It’s just a point of principle,” she said. “My sum of money is quite small, it’s only €60 euro but then I had to go out and purchase the books, I am a lone parent so €120 out of pocket is significant.”

She has not ruled out pursuing the matter through the Small Claims Court. One other parent who contacted TheJournal.ie said she did apply to the court, eventually receiving a cheque for €211.14.

Another parent, Teresa Duffy cancelled her order for €73 worth of books at the end of August but is still awaiting a refund having been told it would clear in three to five days. Both she and her husband have been calling and emailing the company to no avail and are still waiting for their money back.

“We’ll just take the hit,” she said adding that while she had used the company with no problems in recent years she would not be doing so again.

Mitchell-O’Conner said that it was unacceptable that parents would be out of pocket “especially in these difficult times” and added: “I am calling on the company’s managing director to make a statement and clarify exactly what he is going to reimburse parents.”

A spokesperson for the NCA said: “The National Consumer Agency is very concerned that some parents are still out of pocket as a result of their dealings with schoolbooks.ie.

The NCA has received approximately 250 queries from consumers regarding schoolbooks.ie and has been in contact with the company on a number of occasions in relation to these queries and to remind them of their obligations to consumers under EU law. The NCA is following up on the complaints received.

It also said that parents who are experiencing problems with Schoolbooks.ie can request a chargeback from their credit card or can go through the Small Claims Court where the application fee is €25.

TheJournal.ie has called Schoolbooks.ie a number of times but has been unable to speak to anybody at the company and repeated emails asking for comment have not been responded to.

Last month: As parents wait for books or their money back, Schoolbooks.ie stays silent

Read: ‘We have cleared our backlog’: Schoolbooks.ie’s statements in full

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Comments (22 Comments)

  • That’s very Bad Business. They’ve completely destroyed all consumer trust and confidence towards them.Good for traditional book sellers though as not many will rush to order their school books online again next year as many people can’t afford to pay for books twice after being swindled the first time.

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  • Gerard 06/10/12 #

    tragic. and if they have to wait any longer someone will change two words in the book , call it a revised edition and the sorry mess starts again

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  • Gemma T 06/10/12 #

    Unfortunately chargeback doesn’t work with Laser or Maestro. Needs to be Visa/Visa Debit.

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  • A lot of judgemental comments here, blaming parents!!

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  • This sounds like many companies in Ireland these days with crippling cash-flow problems caused by an inability of otherwise healthy businesses the get access to bank loans or overdrafts

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  • yet again consumers in this country are left to fend for themselves. Mary Whothehell O’Connor should either do something useful to help or shut up. nothing grinds my gears more than shameless self promotion.

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  • Who leaves it til August to order books?! The kids get the book list (in most instances) when they finish up the previous school year, so they’ve spent June and July just looking at these lists

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    • maybe they did not have the money till august did you ever think of that and what does that have to do with them not getting there money back when they did not receive there goods i feel sorry for these parents and the children who would of had to start school without there material

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    • @ Fiona, I ordered the books the day they got the summer holidays, I got the books in the last week of August. I was quite lucky i was in a position to do it straightaway and only did it that way so I had it out of the way and availed of the 10% discount. I spent July and August sorting out the uniforms and trying to get through to schoolbooks.ie to see why on earth it was taking so long. People juggle getting kids back to school whatever way they can. I take it you don’t have children in school?!

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    • The back to school grant is only given in late July early August – maybe that’s why

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  • I’m basing my comment on my local bookseller who have always let you pay off your books in increments , so leave the list in in June you paid a few Euro every week from June its done by September. Of course they should be entitled to their money back I would never suggest otherwise, this is just my experience of the way to get books

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  • No sympathy for parents who lost money etc with this company. They should have supported their local book shops around the country instead of being mean and tight fisted thinking they would save about 10%. And lets be honest the bulk of users of this site are well to do with good jobs… because most unemployed lower income parents don’t have credit cards to make purchases online or indeed access to internet.

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    • Actually, I think you’ll find that most of the people using the site are extremely strapped for cash, were using Laser cards & needed that 10% saving as every cent in a household budget counts. Local book stores in small towns add on at least 10% to school book prices in order to profiteer from the people who can’t shop in the bigger chains or get to Dublin. Online is their only option.

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    • sean what are you talking about first of all you can use your laser card to pay for the books online or most banks now hand out atm cards with visa on it and everyone has access to the internet and people have to be tight and get as much reductions as possible because we live in ireland even if you have a good job or not you are being taxed on a higher rate and do you undersatnd how expensive it is in september when your children are returning to school i was lucky i went to easons to get my daughters books with a 10% discount i hope that gets your approval it does not matter were you buy your products you are entitled to them in the time frame given or your money back it is a disgrace and will effect the company

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    • @Sean You are entitled to your opinion but I think it’s a bit unfair to make the assumption that everyone that bought school books online did so just to save a bit of money. Yes, maybe some did, but maybe some just don’t have access to a school supply shop where they live. I’m very lucky that I do have one where I live but if I didn’t I certainly would have considered availing of an online service.
      I’m curious to know if you have school going children and know the stress and expense it can cause when it’s back to school time?

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    • What a ridiculous statement @ Sean – I am a lone parent and when I used schoolbooks.ie last year I was also an unemployed, lone parent. I have a visa debit card which I used to purchase the books, and the only reason I went online was because my local bookstore were having problems getting in all the books! It was a very handy service last year and I got my books within 3 days – thank god I did decide to shop local this year and didn’t get caught up in this fiasco! I have a friend who couldn’t contact them and drove up to their offices – even then they refused to talk to her!

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    • Hold on a minute. This is an Irish company employing Irish people. What a narrow minded comment. This isn’t the 1920’s where everything is produced on your door step. Do you buy all your fruit and veg from your nearest highly over priced supplier. I doubt it. I used to work in a small book shop in the square in tallaght and they were no different in the boom times. People constantly being let down

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    • ass troll hole.

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    • @Emma Dowling: I worked in an independent school book sellers for years, and we certainly didn’t add a penny onto prices. We sold at exactly what the publisher recommended, and we had the price lists behind the till. Many of our stationary items were sold cheaper than Easons or even Tesco. There’s a perception that small booksellers increase their prices, but if you actually compared them with larger chains, you’d see it wasn’t true. They might not be able to afford to offer discounts, but they’re certainly not ramping up the prices to screw with people.

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