They’re gonna take the middle classes/lower classes from behind and not even cuddle us when they’re done.

Watched Braveheart the other night so I’m up for some revolting outside government buildings – “you can take me money but you’ll never take me FREEDOMMMMMM!!!!”

“It is morally wrong, unjust and unfair to tax a persons home”
- Enda Kenny

Say NO to property tax. You get nothing in return and you already pay enough taxes and paid you’re stamp duty. YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE PAY A PENNY FOR OWNING YOU’RE OWN HOME.

The agenda for today:

Savage cuts, big tax hikes, mass outcry.

A week later, back to normal, comforting ourselves with cheap drink at home.

People can bicker all they want over the pedantic crap but until you start thinking for yourselves and get the bigger picture in your head, we’re all screwed. It’s not a single person or party that needs shaking up, it’s the entire system.

And as long as we have an excessive number 166 TD’s and their excessive wages, this country will remain a shambles of a ”democracy.”

We might as well just set up a direct debit into Anglo Irish and save all this bul$h!t!!!!!

Government should be overthrown!

Clearly cuts are not the way forward!
I’m no economist and even I can do that math!!!!

Oh this is going to be painful.
Someone holds me :)

though I walk through the valley of the shadow of FG & Labour, I fear no evil …….

Order! Order! This meeting’s in session
Varadkar! Wipe away that smirking expression
I’m on Time magazine, I’m European of the year
I can cycle Croagh Patrick if I’m in the right kind of gear
I’m fit as a fiddle. I could leap a church steeple
With my charisma and charm, I’m a leader of #sheeple

Now we’re here today to learn of my #budget
I’ve no clue what I’m at so Im just goin to fudge it
Now listen up. This won’t take very long
We’re going after the weak, not touching the strong
And no person in here is allowed Spend-a Penny
None that is, except me – #Enda Kenny

Now while the #health service is in a total hames
Thanks to our own Calamity James
And sheeple can’t get any #home help
No matter how loud or anguished they yelp
I’m keeping #politicians expenses intact
No cuts for us, you can take that as fact

I kinda miss Santa Bertie today. How much will he reduce tax? How much will he pay me to buy a house? Such exciting fun times they were, wish I could party like its 2008 : (

Labour wanted an increase of the USC for high earners. Fine Gael countered by threatening to hit social welfare payments for the most vulnerable in return.

Enda Kenny since appeared claiming th budget will be ‘fair’. Guess ‘fair’ these days is putting a gun to the head of the poor so your minted buddies don’t have to put their hands in their pockets. Should pay off when the FG collection plate gets passed around next election time.

I think we know how fair it will be already.

“Based on market value of property as assessed by the owner”

My house is worth 2 bob and a pickled egg, by my assessment.

snip snip Mr burges

Someone in my work this morning told me that apparently George Osbourne has commended the government on their cost cutting and attitude towards the Budget. Jaysus., you know you’re screwed when a simpleton like Osbourne agrees with your policies.

go f–k yourself noonan! We will never pay money for the privialge of paying for and working hard for our own house for our children. You offer us nothing in return except oy uwant to take this money to pay for your obscene wgaes that are so out of sync with the rest of the world, we are rated in the top 20 most corrupt countires in the world yet you epxect people to pay you a tax to won a house which you already charge extortionate charges for gas,electricity, bins, & water & tv licence & insurance. go f–k yourslef noonan…we will not apy uoi a penny.

People would take these savage cuts if, the Dail bar was shut, expense not payed at the level they get, close the senate , half the number of TDs,cut Kennys pay by 60000 yes 60k, ministers by 40000 yes 40 k, Bertie Aherns pension by half biffos by the same and all x ministers and TDs, bankers jailed for the way they left this country and finally axe the silly job of the president , James Connelly and big Jim Larkin must be turning in there graves when the look at what Gilmore the blue shirt has done to Labour.

€1 extra tax on a bottle of wine while 10 cents on a liter of beer, cider or spirits. That was a wise choice. It will make sure that occasional wine drinkers pay through their noses while real alcoholics have no extra reason to stop and will continue to bring in revenue

The price of a pint to rise from between 5 and 10c at midnight tonight…..THATS THE END OF THE IRISH PUB TRADE.

Really looking forward to listeing Eamonn GilBore wax lyrical about how tough and fair #Budget2013 is

I’m in negative equity on my house…. The property tax is effectively taxing me on a debt….isn’t that the sort of thing Charles Dickens highlighted in his books 150 years ago? With three kids of university age, a husband out of work and being a middle income public sector worker who HAS to use my car for work, this budget has just bankrupt my family!

Whoever made that sandwich should be ashamed to call themselves a “deli”…cheap toast bread, easy singles and the meat looks see through but the butter portion is “heart attack city”…looks like it was made at a newspaper stand! ;oP

lets just open out purses wallets & pockets and say take all I got :(

Ps. there looking quite happy arnt they? smug b@@tards

It is impossible to predict the time and progress of revolution. It is governed by its own more or less mysterious laws.

Vladimir Lenin

“Declare the pennies on your eyes..Taxmannnnnnnnn”
(G.Harrison)

no minister cuts to their wages?? the vouched expenses doesn’t include travel and accomdation?? is this a joke scadalous

They’re like a bunch of children jeering in a classroom. A poor reflection.

http://www.joe.ie/uploads/story/31231/Hogan%20pic.jpg
Says it all.

Someone should inform Noonan that saying “two-thirteen” = 213, not 2013!!!!!!!! Numpty, it’s “twenty-thirteen”!

I’m sitting down eating popcorn and watching the budget

Dear Ireland,
May I opt out? Actually that would be unfair to society so may I pay as I go? Just like my phone when I make calls or texts I pay, so when consume goods and services provided by the state Ill pay directly for them? Fair?
Yours..

The time has come to refuse the layers of extortion to pay the demands of the banking owners who advise our government.

I will not have any fear of going before a judge and telling him that as a free citizen of this state I have no contract to pay these exponential extortion demands for which I receive no service. I refuse to be plundered anymore.

I realise we must pay for services, and that politicians threw money and bribed the electorate for the last decades, but right now we are paying for debts we never got any money for, the banking guarantee and recapitalisation schemes.
Mass resistance and refusal to pay is what we need to do next.

Iam shocked that the government did not cut the wages of the TD’S, shocked so surprised. No wait, no I’m not!

They put up carbon tax didnt they so is not putting up the price of petrol and deisel through the back door.

Again hike on booze and cigarettes!!!:((((

So have we stopped caring about this budget yet? Are we all happy with the government? Who cares, it’s not like we’re going to do anything about it anyway.

I’ve just realised Buckfast is going up by €1-Now we’re in crisis!

Does the increase in carbon tax mean an increase in gas and electricity bills?

Noonan wants to focus on SMEs this year in terms of investment. The export growth is worth focusing on, as we suspected he would, and Noonan announces….

10-Point Tax Reform Plan which includes:

reform of 3-year corporation tax relief for start-ups.
increase cash receipts threshold from €1m to €1,35m
R&D credit to go from €100k to €200k

This is just laughable…these clowns let the council up rates (which were already massivly overcharges) by 75 – 90%% which has closed down and lost jobs all across ireland….why would you want to open a new business when they try to clean you out and shut you down all the time.

its just laughable you counld not make this stuff up.

Noonan was a horrible person in health, the way he treated people back then. It was nothing short of scandolous, he is even worse now and should be kept in a cage!

Watching RTE2 now, where have all the government ministers fecked off to? Only Howlin and Kenny left as far as I can see

the. photo shows. . . an. adoring look . when he heard TDs won’t be touched in this budget

The scary part if all this is they are letting the councils set the property tax rates after a few years. So the clowns who presided over houses being built on flood plains unfinished estates and are still owed millions by developers which they have given up trying to recoup will now be knocking on our doors for it now. Why don’t they publish the names of the developers that owe them money? I bet they won’t have to pay from the grave like we will have to.

susan would it be possible to clarify the mortgage relief changes are they for new or existing mortgages. this could tip me over the edge

No, no, no. You misheard; bands were raised, USC abolished, PAYE reduced, new credits introduced known as ‘congrats you’re working’ credits & each of the utility companies have been ordered to reduce the cost of their product by 18% over the lifetime of the government……if I say it often enough, it’s true. It must be.

Sean Fleming, just because more pensioners are women than men, does not mean cutting supports to pensioners is anti-women. The same applies to cuts to children’s allowance, and one parent schemes. It’s cheap posturing on your part. Its insulting to women to assume that children’s allowance is a women’s issue, and insulting to men to say that cutting lone parents allowance is anti -women. A lot of lone parents have fought tooth and nail to be that lone parent, and although its economically trying at times, many fathers would kill to be that lone parent.

Politicians need Fear. But there is only one way these bastards who would govern us will fear. Get everyone in your family with a vote. Bring granny in her wheelchair and off you go on Friday or Saturday to your TD’s office, one this week, one next week and the other the week after if you are unfortunate to have three. Mak an appointment and tell them -even better leave them a by hand delivered pe
rsonally letter – informing them that you and all your kin will not vote for them again if they pass the budget. The more this happens the bigger their fear. Local councillors need the same treatment. The more widespread their fear the better. NOW is the hour!!! Now is also the hour to stand – that’s you there – to stand in the next local elections against every party hack – FG and Lab for following blindly the political manifesto of FF since the last elections. Let them smell the fear!!!!

So who’s going to collect the PRSI on Interest and Dividends, i cant see everyone doing a tax return.

Also if im unemployed and have savings that are paying PRSI do i still get PRSI credits for those contributions?

PRSI on deposits too ? How will that work if you are unemployed ?

I would hope a lot of the intelligent, extremely articulate comments on here will also be put to the local public representatives in their areas of those people. I think it unlikely any of those representatives will be logging on to the Journal to see public reaction. Don’t let your valuable comments go to waste good people of Ireland.

Weep less, after-all, U voted them into POWER!

Irish people are unreal not to be in rebellion by now, the Director General of FAS for example who has done little or nothing to get 450,000 people back to work so they can pay their own way and taxs (nobody truely wants to be on dole) was on a salary of €253,000 per year, this is where your kids clothing allowance and all your tax gos as long as high ranking public servants and most politicians can continue to convince the majority that the poor of this island are the problem not their quarter of a million a year salarys.

here we go!! 230 times up bring it on

Does The Journal have all staff on Overtime today to delete all these not so nice comments that are about to come later on ?

just Paul ed a TV report as Kenny and Gilmore were being challenged about property tax neither appeared to be listenoing to a fellow TD Kenny was talking to person sitting to his right and Gilmore was playing with his phone. If they are not going to respect and listen to a TD in the Dail what chance that they will listen to the people. Their behaviour was a disgrace and a very bad example of manners. Paul in Moneygall

Did he just say, “it will be a similar TRAGEDY this year”.

Ok Bring it on Noonan. I’m ready.

You reap what you sow…. I was at Galway Races , Dublin Horse Show and other comparable events in 20007-2009. The amount of snobbery and amounts of €€€€€€€€ being spent on ‘Bubbles’ and other ‘ high priced items’ was a total disgrace.
You couldn’t afford it then, and you can’t afford it now.
Payback is a bitch

Here are eight principles to guide you in the coming showdown over the deficit:

ONE: HOLD YOUR GROUND. The wealthy have to pay their fair share of taxes. That’s what the next election will be all about. It’s only fair they pay more. They’re taking home record share of national income and wealth, and have lowest effective tax rate in living memory.

TWO: NO DEAL IS BETTER THAN A BAD DEAL. You’re in a strong bargaining position. No party should sell themselves the way Labor did in 2011. Which isn’t such a bad thing.

THREE: MAKE SINN FEIN VOTE ON EXTENDING THE TAX CUTS JUST FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. After all the FF tax breaks expire, have SF vote on an extending the tax cut just for the middle-class. FG have refused and tried to hold those tax cuts hostage to tax cuts for the wealthy, it will show whose side FG are on. They’ll pay the price in 2016.

FOUR: DEMAND HIGHER TAX RATES ON WEALTHY, NOT JUST LIMITS ON DEDUCTIONS. Don’t fall for Fianna Fail offers to limit some tax deductions on the wealthy. Demand we go back to higher tax rates on the wealthy and eliminate their unfair tax loopholes, so they truly start paying their fair share.

FIVE: DON’T CUT SAFETY NETS. Don’t sacrifice Social Security, or programs for the poor. Irish depend on these safety nets and can’t afford any benefit cuts.

SIX: DON’T CUT INVESTMENTS IN OUR FUTURE PRODUCTIVITY. Infrastructure aren’t spending; they’re investments in our future prosperity. If the return on these investments is greater than the cost, they ought to be made, period.

SEVEN: CUT SPENDING ON CORPORATE WELFARE. You want to cut, cut spending on the promissory note — which now exceeds 32 per cent of GDP. And cut corporate welfare — support to group companies, oil and gas, Big Pharma, big insurance and Banks.

EIGHT: PUT JOBS BEFORE DEFICIT REDUCTION. Finally, Don’t cut the budget deficit as long as unemployment remains high. Otherwise you’ll cause the economy to contract, making the deficit even larger in proportion. That’s the austerity trap Europe has fallen into. We need to create Irish prosperity, not European austerity.

skurwysyny ! (google translate)

resile?

In the section where you report from the Herald, you say fees for third level will go up from ?250 to ?2500. Obviously not!

You have to admire the symbolism of the chains on the wall behind him in the picture!

I don’t much about the cuts, but it doesn’t look THAT bad to my student-eyes… I’m in Final yr so I’ll be entering the “real world” by September nxt year, so I might have a different opinion by then. Who suffers the most from today?
The Health sector looks alright, not great, but alright.