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FIANNA FÁIL AND Fine Gael have parked government formation talks for Christmas, planning to meet again in the New Year after making “progress” in meetings today.
The two parties, which secured 48 and 38 seats in November’s election respectively, are angling to get back into Government together with the support of Independents or a smaller party.
After a series of talks over the weeks since the election, the parties have confirmed that they made progress on various issues in talks today and have concluded for the Christmas break.
They plan to meet again in January to resume discussing a potential Programme for Government.
They also intend to continue engaging with the Social Democrats and Independents as they look to gather enough numbers for a majority in the Dáil.
The most likely outcome currently appears to be that Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael will go back into Government together with the support of a group of Independents after both parties backed Independent TD Verona Murphy as their pick for Ceann Comhairle.
Murphy, a member of a newly-formed grouping of Independents called the Regional Group, was elected as Ceann Comhairle on Wednesday during the 34 Dáil’s first sitting.
The Labour Party had also engaged in discussions but has ruled out entering an agreement with Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, citing a “policy gulf”.
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Progress more like regression for all of us.
Older generation are poisoning the hopes of the younger generation.
FFFG don’t care about anything as there never held to account.
@Eamon De Valera: their*
@Eamon De Valera: people like yourself are too immature to take over the reigns from the ‘older’ générations.
Still a long to go.
@Eamon De Valera: what a load of rubbish some people on here don’t get the fact that the Irish electorate are too intelligent to be taken in by fake left wing parties governed from Belfast by Dodgy people.
The leaders of Sinn Fein Labour and the SD’s fake understanding of working people who are they joking most are living in Mansions and earning over €100,000 a year don’t insult me with your fake understanding of being on the breadline
@Eamon De Valera: The younger generation have nobody to blame but themselves. They have the power to change things if they want to. But they won’t get up off their lazy asses and vote
@Tim Brennan: And you’re intelligent?
@Brian D’Arcy: Absolutely I’m truly blessed with Common sense and the ability to call out fake lefties
@Tim Brennan: you’re not buying a mansion in Dublin if you’re on a TDs salary these days…… Thanks to FG/FF
Well well
@Eamon De Valera: They”re
@Eamon De Valera: * they’re
@Eamon De Valera: Eamon, you’re still with us – a Christmas miracle. Sage as ever. Is it back to basics then – a choice between subsistence living in 1950s Eire or emigration ?
@Eamon De Valera: they’re*
@Eamon De Valera: they’re
@Eamon De Valera:
Come on The Journal
This poster isn’t Emon De Valera
He died 48 years ago
@another one: Some appear to have managed it pretty well even after claiming to have survived on the average industrial wage for many years until only recently deciding to keep their full salary!!!!
@Tim Brennan: feckwit
@Tim Brennan:
All posh kids of the elite
Typhoid Mary lue daughter of a FF developer private education
and Trinity chum.
Then the dingbat running Labour, private fee paying education and still using the sector.
And let’s not forget Posh before plebs. Full of trust fund commies.
What a lovely Christmas present to all
@Enoch Kochwomble: He wasn’t found guilty of rape, you sausage.
@Marjory: enough about his sausage
Jesus lads I have 2 days to work let alone the retail with 4 – surely you could work till Christmas Eve if it’s as important as you say to form a government- especially since things are going so well?!?
it’s sickening that we will never get rida these shower of James Blunts.. never… we need to change the system cuz it’s rigged…
@Stiles: are you talking about brits ?
@Stiles: called democracy, if you dont like it, you can always leave
@Peter Byrne: the complete and utter stupidity of the ‘rigged’ comment. And there are 89 people who agree with it. Just give us ONE example of this ‘rigging’.
@Alan: these are the same people who don’t vote
@Alan: Verona murphy
Whatever arrangement the parties come to, they must start to protect communities, and care for the younger generation who needs affordable homes NOW…
@Scott Milne: first off as regards housing the infrastructure to supply water alone can’t be done until 2035 irish water issued this statement recently so to put it bluntly even if we had the builders you would have no sewage or water esb so all this bs talk of building 50000 a year is adream
Progress ???., the only ones making progress here are the Independents led by Lowery and apparently the Healy-Rea’s will get their snouts into the trough as well. A few counties and constituencies will do well again as did Ryan and the Greens last time out . Lowery will be the Real Taoiseach. The upper part of the Island and the West will again be neglected.The Dublin/Navan rail line will probably be sacrificed when if fact it should be going all the way to Cavan.
@Eugene Comaskey: it’s Lowry.
5 week paid break. Joke. Don’t give out about this joke of a government cause yous vote for it every 5 years
Ffg will never lose. It has always been their plan to form the next government no matter what sh$$ they come out with during their campaign them people would do anything to keep power
@Nikki Swift: Such penetrating insight!!!
@Nikki Swift: The Irish electorate are too intelligent to be conned by the Belfast mafia
a lad from the religion of peace at it again in Germany. more cultural enrichment barriers required in pedestrian areas
@Alex: actually journal, it might not be that interesting.
@Alex: Any actual proof of this that you didn’t actually make up?
@Ger Whelan: It’s all over X and Telegram, multiple media outlets reporting actual facts, and other Xmas markets have been evacuated. Are you really that ignorant?
@Pelagius Asturias: I don’t use social media. It’s not the media it’s peoples opinions and 90% of the time its Bo77ocks
@Ger Whelan: There are actual media outlets of all sorts within these platforms. Stick to RTE news then. In the meantime, Merry Christmas.
@Ger Whelan: Default mode: deny everything!
@offside again: It might be, if any of your friends or family were at the German Xmas market!
Between the Journal and RTE with the ‘Car’ headlines. It was a Muslim. Is the truth so hard to report? Roderick O’Gorman got some dirt on you lot or something?
@Pelagius Asturias: give them time. It’s apparently a doctor from Saudi Arabia.
@Pelagius Asturias: I don’t know what point you’re trying to make.
And I suspect you don’t either.
Practically all terrorist classed attacks in Europe for the past few decades have been from far-right extremists or Saudi Arabian radicalized religious fanatics.
Yes, Saudi, who we still somehow regard as allied to the West.
Yet Iran is ostracized and sanctioned, when it has never threatened us, much less attack us.
@ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: Hopefully one day, the penny will drop for you. In the meantime, Merry Christmas pal.
@ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166046222001028
Your wrong..again.
@Pelagius Asturias:
*you’re
@offside again: and a MAN. And a PROFESSIONAL. I’d like to know what football team he supports
@ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: Oh my goodness, the sheer naivety. You will go like a lamb to the slaughter.
Once numbers increase and they feel emboldened we can expect similar attacks here around paddy’s day and Christmas. Normally invited guests are grateful and integrate. Certain demographic will NEVER integrate.
@Freda Peeple: clown.
@offside again: Stay in France you creep
@J B: Well actually nearly all tribes mix, there is one who won’t. Why invite people into your country who’s culture is the polar opposite of what we stand for? Radicalised to such an extent they will indiscriminately kill your family and friends because we are “infidels” it’s literally in there cult handbook to eradicate non Muslims.
The Germany thing is different, they up until September were supplying weapons that were being used to indiscriminately kill Palestinians, but at the same time welcoming in Palestinian refugees… anyone seeing the issue here?
I wonder who crashed their car in the German Christmas market, I doubt it was an angry Elf. I’m betting on peace people.
@J Ven: brilliant … yawn … contribution …
@offside again: Thank you, I know it was brilliant, the truth hurts, but hiding it won’t make it go away. Another brilliant thought.
@J Ven: who is hiding what here exactly ?
@J Ven: Christians ramming garda cars in monaghan and women in Cork! But don’t let that ruin your turkey dinner!
If you opened the comments on the German incident and moderated them ; it could be an interesting expérience.
I just hope Santy has a bit more conviction..
An open comment section on the journal…Christmas miracles do happen!
Irish children have been waiting years for scoliosis treatment, but the government can medevac children from Gaza for treatment!
@Brian Hunt: They not coming for scoliosis treatment. Many are amputees ffs.. You are the lowest of the low, having a problem with children getting emergency medical treatment ffs.. The Gov have spent Billions on Ukrainians, who many have gone through nothing like innocent women and children of Palestine. Your not a Hunt but a Knut.
And the plane was provided by the Slovakian Government..
@Michael Collins:
Hand back the hostages, and Hamas surrender and it stops.
Religion of peace strike again in Germany. And Ireland still support Hamas.
@Alex: don’t be ignorant Alex! You’re being ignorant.
Disgusting what happened in Germany!! The perpetrator should be tortured as many times as the number of victims and again and again until the end. Disgraceful that innocent people have died.
@Jack: and Simon Harris’ tribute is weak.
Donald duck party
@Paul Byrne: don’t get my hopes up about them
Sinn fein
https://www.kfmradio.com/news/national/security-allowance-for-tds-to-increase-from-e5k-to-e25k-following-review-by-kildare-td-sean-o-fearghail/
This came in quietly under the radar.
Wasters.
Progress talking the same nonsense over and over and over and over and expecting a different result do your jobs that’s what you’re paid for
FFG came 3rd
They must think the public are stupid
This has been arranged weeks ago
But then again we deserve who ye voted for
Yes off course go enjoy your break lads well done looking forward to what going do to clean up mess have made. Happy Christmas fsg
Poor lads are worn out!
Sinn Fein Bogey people at it again. Mrs Stanley better be prepared the Kangaroo court is in progress.
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