Sign in. It’s quick, free and it’s up to you.
An account is an optional way to support the work we do. Find out more.
LAST UPDATE | 9 Jul 2024
NO DECISION HAS yet been made by the Irish Airline Pilots’ Association (IAPLA) is to on a Labour Court recommendation aimed at ending its lengthy pay dispute with Aer Lingus.
Pilots who are members of the union have been working-to-rule since 26 June after negotiations over a pay increase with the airline reached an impasse. The industrial action has resulted in the cancellation of over 500 Aer Lingus flights.
The Labour Court intervened once IALPA threatened further industrial action would be taken last week. Yesterday, it recommended a 17.75% pay increase for pilots.
IALPA met today to discuss whether to recommend accepting or rejecting the Labour Court proposal.
No decision was made as a result of the meeting as the union is waiting on a reply from the Labour Court to the letter it sent, as it is waiting to receive confirmation on its understanding of the recommendations laid out in yesterday’s decision, it is understood.
When a decision is made by the executive members of the union, the choice will be put to its members through an electronic ballot.
Once the Labour Court has replied to the union’s letter, the executive members will meet again to establish its position on the decision.
After a review of the decision, Aer Lingus decided to accept the recommendation yesterday afternoon.
The company will also consider “the longer-term implications of implementing the recommendation and of this dispute which has been enormously damaging both financially and reputationally”.
Previously, Aer Lingus said any increase over 12.25% should also include an agreement on increased productivity and flexibility in return – something the company says has been agreed with other workers at the airline.
The President of IAPLA, Captain Mark Tighe, said yesterday that an electronic ballot will provide pilots with an opportunity to carefully consider the terms of the recommendation.
“Pilots will have the opportunity to consider its terms and to carefully consider our next steps. This has been an exceptionally complex dispute, reflected in the Court’s decision last week to utilise its legislative powers to investigate the matters in dispute,” he said.
It is understood the executive board of IALPA will meet one-on-one with its members over the coming days, after the Labour Court’s reply.
Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland this morning, Minister of State for Enterprise, Trade and Employment Peter Burke said “cool heads” are needed in order to resolve the dispute quickly.
“We have to move on to the next chapter as an island economy again and for so many vulnerable sectors that really require connectivity to be at a premium over the summer months ahead, we really need to ensure that this dispute is resolved,” he said.
Speaking on his way into Cabinet, Taoiseach Simon Harris said he hoped the offer was a signal of “positive momentum”.
“It looks to me like everybody really worked intensively on this, and I really do welcome that,” he said.
“I’ve said from the start, the only way you [resolve] industrial relations is through engagement and through compromise. [We] certainly have the engagement, and it looks to me like we now have compromise.
“I don’t think it would be helpful for me to tell any side what to do. I fully respect the idea that unions obviously have to engage with their own members, but I really do hope this is positive momentum.”
IALPA had been seeking a pay increase of 24%, which they said equates to inflation since the last pay rise in 2019.
However, the union said it would be willing to consider a lower pay increase during a meeting with the airline at a hotel last week.
Members of IALPA rejected a previous Labour Court recommendation of 9.25%, arguing that Aer Lingus pilots should receive an increase of an almost 24% in their pay.
But it accused Aer Lingus of not making a similar compromise to move from its offer of 12.25%, without requests for pilots to improve productivity.
An interim Labour Court recommendation for pay increases of 9.25% was rejected by IALPA members last month, who then decided to pursue industrial action.
Includes reporting by Muiris O’Cearbhaill. Additional reporting from Press Association.
To embed this post, copy the code below on your site
Doesn’t matter the figures……had to be spent, a no brainer
@Kevvy kerrr: Yep, quite happy with whatever was spent, considering what money the government waste on rubbish
Poor souls. Sounds like an awful death. They’re such smart and peaceful creatures too.
I was probably in the anti-zoo camp in my teens. But like so many things you understand the complexity and nuance of these things as you get older. The ethical zoos with good intentions (not the vulgar Pokémon collections of rare species) do amazing work. It’s all so relative. Ideally they live peacefully in the wild. But humans have an appalling record when it comes to mistreating animals. So captivity in safety, out of the way of trophy hunters and other rancid members of our species isn’t the worst scenario. We’re all hemmed in in some fashion no matter how much we rattle our cages.
Our own knuckle draggers are in the news this week. I do my best to keep the rage in check but I truly hate these people and wish nothing but the worst on them. Low lives you’d love to see stripped of their citizenship so that’s one less thing we are forced to have in common with them. Lowest of the low.
@SerotoninWars: very deep & thought provoking
@Kevvy kerrr: Thanks Kevvy :)
And in Ireland, we now accept halal, I do not hear any Irish animal welfare charities condemning such an atrocious and sickening practice. Of course not, in modern, diverse and tolerant Ireland, we must not offend, must be all equal, must conform, must stay quiet, must be criticised if you ask questions.
@Fintan Pox: says the FF fan boy
@Mick O’K: So you disagree?
@Fintan Pox: I agree Halal especially with the no-stun aspect is absolutely barbaric. You can throw Kosher in the mix too. I’ve read about and watched some harrowing scenes from the slaughter floors of both. When I was younger to be precise. I can’t stomach it anymore. That doesn’t give ‘our’ methods a pass at all with some of the most upsetting cruelty imaginable happening in these slaughterhouses.
I’m not saying for a second that this covers all Muslim’s (it’s the Guardian!) but it’s a bit of context to the wider debate. I’ve given up on us making many advances in my lifetime. You get worn down and reduced to the most marginal of gains. But for crying out loud, at least stun them! If your god requires this level of suffering, maybe it’s time to ask some questions. That goes for all of them.
The main thing for me is why on earth we are still at a stage where we feel the need to slit ANY creature’s throat and watch it bleed out, never mind with this additional level of cruelty in the mix.
The meat industry does its best to give its products cute fun names, especially in the fast food industry. It’s deliberate, of course. Just like so many things where severing the end product from the reality of how it got there, is paramount. There are a lot of people who would choose to eat something else if their colourful box of meat meant doing the slitting, chopping, beheading and bleeding out themselves. Only the most brutal horror flicks get anywhere near the shocking reality of the meat industry.
@SerotoninWars: don’t eat meat.
@offside again: I don’t! :)
@SerotoninWars: I’d never have guessed.
Animals like sheep would prefer halal to wolves I’m sure. I’m not defending it. I’m sure it’s painful but it’s relatively quick in the scheme of things.
You’re right about the ‘meat industry’. That doesn’t mean eating meat is wrong though. But it should actually be a luxury rather than an everyday thing.
@offside again: There’s actually some middle ground here for once! :)
I get that it’s a hugely complex area (like nearly everything!) but there is a world of difference between the type of old-school farm-to-table setup and the industrialised conveyor belt we’ve ended up with. Capitalism demands faster and more without thinking about anything outside of accumulating more paper and coins.
Even if people don’t particularly care about animals, some of the conditions human beings have to work in are harrowing. The USA is of course amongst the worst offenders. The level of accidents, lifelong injuries and appalling treatment of the workers is off the chart. All to keep a conveyor belt of animals heading into the mouths of people who expect meat at every single meal.
They often use cheap immigrant labour and when things go wrong there is practically nothing in the way of compensation. In comes the next poor and desperate person to replace them. All to keep the main conveyor belt of profit going. If they don’t care about humans, you can imagine how much they care about the animals.
@SerotoninWars: my brother in law kept sheep and I bought one. First of all we had to catch one. Then his system was to tie it up in his workshop, sit down and drink a couple of beers until the animal relaxed. And without warning then hit it with a lump hammer, before proceeding to kill it.
Butchering an animal yourself is not easy.
Anybody who has a bit of land can keep a pig.
@offside again: I can imagine. None of it is pretty in the end. I’m not overly romanticising that aspect even if I’d like to think there are nicer ways of doing it! But if it has to happen, and enough humans make sure it will, then something that equates to fewer animals, better lives and living conditions up to the point of death, and less recklessness when it comes to the environment, seems more desirable.
The money in the industry is enormous. Huge amounts are spent on lobbying and what is hard to describe as anything other than propaganda. I go back to my point that even if people don’t care about animals they need to wake up to the fact that so much of the denier stuff being pumped into media and social media, is by people with a vested interest in making people apathetic and cynical about any moves to curtail consumption. That might mean less profit shock horror.
The industrial meat industry is a disaster for humans as much as animals.
@offside again: hey bff, so the story goes { allegedly} something like this……. Choose the victim, catch the victim, relax with a few duffs…you know… Just chilling, chewing the fat….& Then when everyone’s got a decent buzz going….. Whip out a lump hammer & whack the poor guy…… Gotta ask…… You been watching reruns of the sopranos??
@SerotoninWars: full belly cheap = big profit. I believe a certain Austrian said : ‘it’s good for leaders that men do not think’.
@Kevvy kerrr: your talent is wasted here !
@Kevvy kerrr: Hey Joey Sheeps! Don’t wurry it’s not a nursing home! It’s a retirement community!
Money well spent Good on zoo
For once money we’ll spent.
Elephant in the room no doubt
@Phillip Smyth: ah Phillip c’mon, that was 2/10 at best….. Larry Betts standard
@Kevvy kerrr: I know couldn’t resist.
They should not be on view, zoos are a thing of the past animals should allowed to run free, that’s the elephant in the room, poor creatures bobbing back and forth in tiny spaces, they are brought to a strange land to here, away form their natural habitat, basically to just die in a tiny area totally alien to them.
@Phillip Smyth: now Kevvy K the elephant in the tiny room.
@Phillip Smyth: 100% right. Zoos are totally inappropriate for these huge majestic creatures. At the very least, they need the space of a national park, for roaming and for privacy away from their most deadly enemy, us.
Give a lump sum from the TV licence
the budget …..vanished from your articles .
Good job you understood we had enough
There is a beautiful tribute in an article on here to the late, great and stunningly beautiful Mary O’Rourke, by Mary Hanafin, whose dad Des was a great man too, opposed, divorce, opposed gay marriage, opposed abortion., all values in Fianna Fail we hold dearly.
There should never be elephants in captivity In such small spaces. These majestic animals can travel hundreds of kilometers per day in the wild. At the very least, they need the size of a national park to roam. No matter what you do in Dublin Zoo, it’s a 28 hectare site. Calling it the African Plains doesn’t make it so. Some animals do ok in captivity, but these huge beautiful beasts need space and privacy. Gorillas, Tigers, Lions, bears and Rhino should only ever be kept in captivity to prevent extinction, and then only in huge national park-size enclosures. If you want to see Elephants, there is about a million hours of footage on YouTube thanks to David Attenborough et al.
Just isolate the elephants who are sick you absolute clowns.
@Buster Lawless: Out of curiosity, how long did you study to be a vet?
@Jack Jack: this is basic science, isolate the spread. These cockatiels are murdering the elephants.
@Jack Jack: study? Buster Lawless? Funniest comment of the day!
@Buster Lawless: the ilness doesnt show until v sick by which time all may have caught it. I got that by reading about it at the tome . You’re the clown
@damien leen: your trolling knows no bounds. Show some respect here punk, elephants are dying.
@uXGdMXx5: tome? Did you learn that in the circus while abusing the donkey? Sicko.
@Buster Lawless: Please join Fianna Fail.
@Fintan Pox: they must remove usc it is essential
@Buster Lawless: No party going to do that, shur jaysus, we had to bring it in when we bankrupted the country, and you gonna vote for us if we got rid of it! Bleedin sap lol
@Buster Lawless: there isn’t the space.
have your say