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Trump is alleging that the team cannot transfer those funds to Harris by re-naming its campaign. Alamy Stock Photo

Trump files complaint against Harris over use of Biden's campaign donations - reports

The complaint, filed by former President Trump’s campaign team lawyer, seeks to block Harris’ access to Biden’s war chest.

DONALD TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN team has filed a complaint with the United States’ Federal Election Commission which argues Vice President Kamala Harris cannot use donations which were given to President Joe Biden’s campaign, local media reports.

Biden dropped out of the election race on Sunday evening after weeks of coverage about internal party concerns over his ability to run, given his age and health, and endorsed Harris shortly after his announcement.

According to reports, Biden’s team had raised over $90 million during his campaign and Trump is alleging that the team cannot transfer those funds to Harris by re-naming its campaign.

The complaint, filed by former President Trump’s campaign team lawyer, seeks to block Harris’ access to Biden’s war chest and argues that the fund should be defunct now that the President has dropped out of the race.

Soon after his announcement on Sunday, big donors, who had previously stopped their cash flow due to concerns over the Biden campaign, had come back in their droves to support Harris and the Democratic party.

If Trump is successful in his bid, the Harris campaign would have to ramp up its fundraising efforts quickly to in order to keep up – despite raising more than $46.7 million from grassroots supporters on Monday alone.

However, it is unlikely that the complaint will be investigated – let alone upheld – by the Federal Election Commission (FEC) before the election. 

Last night, the FEC commissioner Dara Lindenbaum wrote on X, formerly Twitter, before reports of the Trump team’s complaint that Harris should get access to Biden’s campaign funds, if she becomes the Democratic Party presidential nominee.

Yesterday, the incumbent Vice President said she had already earned enough support from Democratic delegates to become the party’s presidential nominee.

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    Mute Argus Romsworth
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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:22 AM

    Desperation tactics from Trump already.

    #yeswecan

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:08 AM

    @Argus Romsworth: a prosecutor against a convicted criminal! #MadamPresident2024

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:34 AM

    @9QRixo8H: Steve Bannon warned Trump not to debate Biden as they suspected he would be pulled after. They were confident in beating him without debate. But unsure if they could win against what might come after. Trump ploughed on against this advice.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:46 AM

    @Argus Romsworth: Except Trump did not beat Biden in that debate.

    Unless you consider gobbledygook rational debate.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:51 AM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: Ah that’s not what he meant ,Bannon rightly called it ,Joe would eliminate himself with gaffes …If that’s correct information he is some strategist.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:21 AM

    @Argus Romsworth: the gloves are off! Well, hopefully JD’s are anyway.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:01 AM

    @Argus Romsworth: He will win anyway. DEI Harris has always been useless.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:21 AM

    @Alex: low intelligence, proven rap ist, convicted felon whose single qualification for the job is that he is white and becomes the outlet for white grievance all over struggling parts of America. This Maga DEI talking point is spectacularly inane.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:42 AM

    @Argus Romsworth: lmao… ‘yes we can’… look around you Argus

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:41 PM

    @9QRixo8H: she is boasting that she wants to make it easier for mothers to end the lives of their unborn children. What Trump has done pales into insignificance compared to that. There are approximately 1 million lives of the unborn ended each year in the USA but that isn’t enough for her and the Democrats

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:45 PM

    @Tommy Mullally: “Can you think of any laws that give the government the power to make decisions exclusively about the male body?” – Madam President.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:58 PM

    @Bobby Digital: Last time we checked he hasn’t been convicted right? He will win anyway. I am not a Maga by any means but I can see it clearly as day. Kamala DEI has no chances. Alzheimer’s Joe was doomed, Kamala will be no better.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 4:36 PM

    @Alex: Trump?

    Yes, Trump is a convicted felon.

    He is still awaiting sentence.
    But as a felon, he is already barred from voting in Florida, and he has lost his licences to sell alcohol at his resorts in New Jersey.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 5:11 PM

    @Alex:
    You say you are not a MAGA, but your text certainly implys you may be text like Alzheimer’s Joe. Firstly, there is no proof that man has that illness. You could just use his title President Biden. I truly hope you or your family never have to deal with this illness

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    Jul 25th 2024, 5:29 PM

    @Argus Romsworth:
    Republican whingers complaining while Trump has squeezed the Maga cult dry.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:47 AM

    He’s at it already and she’s not even nominated. Here we go . Going to be some do da coming her way now and it won’t be nice. But I wish her well. Anybody bar that person who will stop at nothing to get his way.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:36 AM

    @John Flanagan: Her name was on the ticket when the funds came in. It will still be after confirmed at convention. She has enough of the delegates votes.
    This is nothing but another grasp at straws by lawyers, and is going to get struck down like ?62 of their cases claiming election fraud.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:15 AM

    @John Flanagan: Humanity files complaint against Trump for being a jacka$$.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:55 AM

    Trump is nicely rattled – throwing the toys out of the pram already.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:16 AM

    Not a vote has put her where she is since 2020…………..democracy

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:20 AM

    @Oh Mammy: not a vote put liz truss or sunak in power either…id rathar her than a convicted sexual predator whos in capable of stringing a coherent sentence together

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:23 AM

    @David Clarke: I counted at least seven grammatical or spelling errors in your comment.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:24 AM

    @Eamon: Make that eight.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:26 AM

    @Eamon: Make that nine.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:40 AM

    @Eamon: 10!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:43 AM

    @Oh Mammy: Trump lost the 2020 election by claiming imaginary votes

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:01 AM

    @Oh Mammy: she was elected, the campaign was Biden/Harris just like Trump was Trump/Pence, then all vice presidents in history are unelected officials by your definition. Now people will get the chance to vote directly for her and indirectly for JD Vance

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:02 AM

    @Eamon: oh your so precious. Nothing much else to say then eamon. Says a lot about u OK. Don’t be so condescending

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:08 AM

    @John Flanagan: Well, David was going on about stringing a sentence together.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:29 AM

    @Eamon: He’s not running for president

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:45 AM

    @Oh Mammy: lad lassie or anything who want to be named, why are you so conservative

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:08 AM

    @Eamon: take a day off Eamon. By dissing Harris one must assume your preference is a multiple sexual assaulter of women and convicted felon. Says a lot about you.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:32 AM

    @Ted Daly: Point out to me where I dissed Harris.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:14 AM

    @Eamon: and it only took you 4 attempts to count to 10. Bravo eamon you’ll thrive in senior infants!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:35 AM

    @Eamon: Your all pathetic children

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:41 AM

    @Karen Marten: You’re, not your.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:11 PM

    @Oh Mammy: how many votes did Mike Pence get? Or JD Vance.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:13 PM

    @Oh Mammy: there isn’t a election till later this year. Thump has never had a majority vote.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:18 PM

    @Robert Halvey: I am middle of the road. I try to be fair and honest. I admit when I am wrong. I do not get emotional. I support others in their choices when those choices are not my cup of tea. I do not like others dictating to me. I would like my decisions I make be supported even if someone else disagrees. All of the above within the law, and the people concerned adults. Thank you for asking.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:19 PM

    @Eamon: you’re my hero!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:22 PM

    @Eamon: omg the grammer teacher is at it again

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:36 PM

    @Karen Marten: he is another elitist wa.ker that thinks he is on some higher ground, attempting to shame people away from their right to opinion. I did not go to some elitist school looking down on others. My written word may not pass muster with those non producing, smarmy, pri.ks, but they will not deter me. I got my view out there and it was understood. Eamon and his ilk are one of the very reasons people vote in the extreme. He can shove his condescension.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:39 PM

    @Oh Mammy: I’m a troll, stop feeding me.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 3:23 PM

    @Eamon: some times dyslexic people spell things wrong !!!!!

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    Jul 25th 2024, 2:03 AM

    @Oh Mammy: she’s a nominee chosen by her party. There hasn’t been an election since 2020. The vote will be in November.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:44 AM

    Oh, how quickly the wheel has come ‘full circle’….. For 3 years the Dems weaponized the justice department against an innocent man…..now the President of Peace can show that justice is ( supposedly) a two way street. Hopefully they won’t try again with their assassination attempts.

    Vote Peace

    Vote A TEAM

    TRUMP/VANCE 2024

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:48 AM

    @Buster Lawless: “President of Peace” Ha ha, good one

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:50 AM

    @Buster Lawless: Ohh my god. We may not be perfect in many ways in this little country of our. But thank god we don’t see that do da very often. Crawl back in sir please.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:52 AM

    @Buster Lawless: You mean president in pieces. Which after last week he isn’t.Pity

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:56 AM

    @John Flanagan: like Ghandi or Mandela…. It’ll take a lot more than mere bullets to derail the juggernaut of peace

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:27 AM

    @Buster Lawless: I keep asking you how will trump bring peace to ukraine and you won’t answer me.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:43 AM

    @Buster Lawless: “Presidents of Peace”, have you seen the speakers at Republican Convention openly speaking about a Civil War if Trump does not win the next election or even JD Vance proudly talking about his Grandma having 19 loaded guns around her house. These people are not about peace but are about Guns and Violence, just like forcibly taking Capitol Hill to stop the Electoral College Vote taking place and being encouraged by “The President of Peace”

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:37 AM

    @Buster Lawless: You misspelled his name “President of the (non)-peace(ful transition of power)

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:59 AM

    @Buster Lawless: stopped reading your comment when I saw the word innocent. You can’t be taken seriously when you ignore the facts.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:32 AM

    @Mick Duvanny: yeah have you forgotten the riot he induced in capital hill where two police officers were killed and all because he lost. What kind of leader does that to his own country men and women

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:37 PM

    @Karen Marten: He doesn’t care about anyone except himself.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:33 PM

    @Tricia G28: grow up Tricia

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    Jul 24th 2024, 2:56 PM

    @Buster Lawless: vomit

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:23 AM

    It’s all about the money with Trump, Musk just pulled 45 million back from them and he’s in panic mode, he can’t stomach an intelligent woman beating him. What’s his behaviour going to be like when he loses in November..

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:38 AM

    @Jamie Hinch: We already know.

    He’ll claim the election was fraudulent and incite his supporters to violence. AGAIN.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:08 AM

    @Tricia G28: Think the Military will step now given the violence he started. They can’t let this happen again..

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:21 PM

    @Jamie Hinch: JD Vance has already stated that had he been in Pence’s position in 2020 he would have refused to certify the Electoral College results.

    And the Ohio governor stated that “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” words which he later rowed back on.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:54 PM

    @Jamie Hinch: Trump will not lose.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:19 PM

    @John John: But every word of that is true, is it not?

    Numerous investigations – including by Trump’s Justice Dept – have shown that.

    But Democrats continued to behave lawfully.
    They did not stage an insurrection.
    They did not plan to overturn US Democracy.
    They did not plan to do any of these things in the months before the election, plans to be put into effect should they lose.

    The Trump Republicans did these things.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:13 AM

    Democrats cheating yet again

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:59 AM

    @John D Doe: trump is running scared. He doesn’t know how to handle women.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:12 AM

    @brian madden: find it hard to believe there was never a capable women to be president in all of North America’s history! Only men. Until now. Will they get their first Madam President?!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:15 AM

    @9QRixo8H: they will.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:16 AM

    @9QRixo8H: they might get their first woman president but they’ll still have to wait for a competent one.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:20 AM

    @brian madden: The sc@mbag tried often enough

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:24 AM

    @9QRixo8H: I doubt it

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:53 AM

    @John D Doe: From the article “Last night, the FEC commissioner Dara Lindenbaum wrote on X, formerly Twitter, before reports of the Trump team’s complaint that Harris should get access to Biden’s campaign funds, if she becomes the Democratic Party presidential nominee.”.

    Which part of that don’t you understand?

    The “minds” of racists in the US exploded when Obama was elected, leading to Trump and MAGA.

    Wait ’till you see what happens when a Black Woman is elected president.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:00 AM

    @John D Doe: it’s trump who is the felon. You support a man who fiddles with strange women’s genitalia and them boasts about it. Creepy

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:14 AM

    @brian madden: yes he does. Grab them by the p…y according to himself.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:11 AM

    @brian madden: that will all be overturned when the great man wins :)

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:17 AM

    @brian madden: Correction, he doesn’t know how to handle them legally.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:23 AM

    @brian madden: trouble is he does know how to handle women. Just not legally

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:34 AM

    @John D Doe: If you want to know what cheating is, look at Trump’s career history and especially his political years which are very few!!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:10 AM

    @brian madden: except when hes grabbing them by the p**sy.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:13 PM

    @John D Doe: cheating like Trump cheats on his wives or cheating like Trump on his taxes or cheating like when Trump doesn’t pay people. Could you be more specific?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 2:31 PM

    @brian madden: he knows how to mid-handle them

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:31 AM

    Panic mode setting in with trump,hope she rips him a new one

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:35 AM

    Bound yo backfire on the orange one.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:13 AM

    @Willie Marty: “to” I think this lawless lad is beginning to fret just like his master the orange lad.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:15 AM

    @Willie Marty: Are you talking about couch-humping JD?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:44 AM

    @Willie Marty: Buster is narciss…..Ken from West Cork. He has multiple profiles but continually posts the same rubbish about Trump or his own great life.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:53 AM

    @Bobby Digital: him too

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:24 AM

    Biden and Harris named on the fundraising forms when submitted at the time required this was clarified on several news formats over the last few days. All of the funding raised since the announcement of Harris running has been to her campaign.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:02 AM

    Is this the same Trump who took control of the RNC to pay his legal bills and max out their spending on his campaign to the exclusion of other GOP candidates? Is the idea just to tie the Harris campaign up in legal paperwork for a while? It won’t work. Trump is Trump. Everyone knows who and what he is.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:06 AM

    Who is Harris? She is only after coming out of the woodwork now and nowhere to be seen the last few years, I sincerely hope Trump gets elected again.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:10 AM

    @Noel: * sad trombone *

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:23 AM

    @Noel: One might ask who Harris is not. She is not a crooked property developer who never paid bills, and put hundreds of small businesses out of business. She is not a sexual predator, or someone who tried to hold on to power after losing an election. She did not tell 30,573 documented lies over a four-year period.

    All good reasons to vote for her.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:55 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: She is not a convicted felon.

    She did not steal classified documents, and refuse to return them. Many of which are still missing.
    She did not hold private meetings with Putin, after which many US informants and agents died or mysteriously disappeared.
    She did not plan a coup to overthrow US democracy.
    She did not give Christo-fascists, Racists and White Supremacists control over US agencies and policies.
    She did not use a pandemic for political purposes, condemning hundreds of thousands of Americans to a nasty death.
    She did not weaponise the judicial system to go after opponents (neither did Biden).
    She did not encourage supporter violence against protestors.
    She did not turn the security forces of the state on protestors.

    I am sure there is much more evil that she did not do.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:07 AM

    @honey badger: Thank you :)

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    Jul 24th 2024, 4:20 PM

    @John John: You mean Fascists?

    Stephen Miller, the Proud Boys, The Oath Keepers, Moms for Liberty, Flynn, Bannon, Manafort, …

    The US Republican Party is infested with them.
    And their idol.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:12 PM

    @John John: Yes I do know.

    Mom for Liberty are another Christo-fascist group that tried to impose its authoritarian belief system onto others.
    They are classed as a hate group.

    The founders have been accused of rape, and have admitted to unusual sexual activities – why don’t you know these things?

    The weird sexual proclivities and actual harm comes from people like these.

    That is what US Republicans do – they create groups or laws with lovely nice sounding names that take away rights from people.

    Like those ‘Right-to-Work’ states.
    Which should properly be called ‘ExploitersRUs’ states.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:33 AM

    The lying treacherous sex offender fraudster orange things whinging and crying to the poorly educated magrats is going to get hysterical

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    Jul 24th 2024, 9:37 AM

    Keep the faith lads, Trump will win back the White House, now 4-6, other thing 13-8.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:02 AM

    @Robert Bell: even money now here at Boyles sports. “The other thing” as you refer to her(in a racist tone) is en route to the White House.

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    @James Leahy: Yes: she has all the momentum against a bitter and desperate old man with nothing new to offer.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:37 AM

    @Robert Bell: Delusional Sl0b.!!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:21 AM

    @James Leahy: what are you talking about, 4-7 trump v 11-8 thing boyles.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 2:28 PM

    @Robert Bell: you missed the special. Looking forward to collecting in November. So long sucker.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 2:41 PM

    @Robert Bell: so your money is on vonschitzinpants over an intelligent educated successful woman of colour that you can’t even name, the emotional damage and insecurity of your childhood is there for all to see. Have you considered therapy before it’s too late?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 2:52 PM

    @James Leahy: i backed trump @ 7-1, cashed out most of it plus laid the corpse biden @ 6-4, so i aint doing any losing on this!!!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 2:57 PM

    @Justin Mcnulty: i have cleaned up on it, got 7-1 trump, hes now 4-6 at best & cashed out most of my bet plus laid biden @ 6-4. Have you never heard of Betfair!! i will now lay KH when she gets near 5-4.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 6:54 PM

    @Robert Bell: Boyles don’t elect anyone and the betting odds are determined by how much money is being laid, It’s not a scientific way of predicting a result, bookies favourites lose every single day.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:07 AM

    It’s absolutely gas sitting back and watching Irish people attack each other over American politics.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:12 AM

    @Ger Whelan: US politics affects the whole world. It’s extremely important. Another Trump presidency would be a disaster for the environment, for example.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:14 AM

    @Ger Whelan: Astonishing comment from the guy who’d argue with himself if he was left alone for 5 minutes…

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:14 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: And there is Brendan first in and brought up the environment..

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:16 AM

    @honey badger: Good to see the Israelis let you off the front lines in Gaza.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:18 AM

    @Ger Whelan: Yes: the environment is kind of important, don’t you think?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:19 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: it’s extremely important. Your daily rants about it not so much.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:21 AM

    @Ger Whelan: See! Thank you for illustrating how ironic your original comment was, Roy!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:21 AM

    @Ger Whelan: As usual, your complaint has been filed in the appropriate place.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:25 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: How many times have you told the same people trump is bad and the climate change is bad etc? Has anyone of them ever listened? No none for them. But you’re like a broken record and repeat the same thing every day.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:26 AM

    @honey badger: How long before you have to go back to the front honey?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:27 AM

    @honey badger: Yes, and not long ago he was berating me over China/Taiwan. Ironic indeed.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:30 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Berating you? Nope I was correcting the misinformation you posted claiming Taiwan is an independent nation. For a man who complains about other posting misinformation you seem to enjoy posting a lot yourself?.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:36 AM

    @Ger Whelan: You claimed that because Taiwan is part of China, it follows that it must be part of the PRC, a brutal communist dictatorship. I merely pointed out that the Taiwanese people beg to differ and like their freedom. Deal with it.

    And how is this any different from discussing US politics: the thing you turn up your nose at?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:41 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Taiwan is part of china that’s a fact. Not once did I say it should follow the PRC. So why lie again Brendan. The people of Taiwan cannot just say they are free just like the people of Catalonia couldn’t in 2017. Now please don’t come back telling more lies.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:54 AM

    @Ger Whelan: How could it be ruled from Beijing and not part of the PRC?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:04 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: idiotic comment.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:12 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Is Scotland ruled by London. No it has its own government and can make it’s own laws but still part of the United kingdom. But don’t let that fact ruin your fantasy. Why do you continue to post misinformation that Taiwan isn’t part of China. Ask your government and any other democratic government is Taiwan and an independent nation and they’ll tell you no

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:20 AM

    @Ger Whelan: Taiwan is not part of the PRC. That is not misinformation. The UK is a democracy. The PRC is a totalitarian dictatorship.

    And Scotland *is* ultimately ruled by Westminster, notwithstanding its limited autonomy.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:38 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: I never said it was part of the PRC I said it’s part of China. And it doesn’t matter if China is a totalitarian dictatorship or not. Taiwan cannot claim to be a sovereign independent nation unless Beijing agrees to it. Just like the governments of Northern Ireland, Scotland or Wales cannot say they are sovereign independent countries without London agreeing to it. You claiming otherwise is misinformation to suit your agenda.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:43 AM

    @Ger Whelan: My ‘agenda’ is to point to the fact that wishing to be free rather than to live under a brutal totalitarian dictatorship is a natural human impulse, and one with which I can sympathise. I have no idea why this makes you get so hot and bothered.

    You still think it’s ‘gas’ to see Irish people argue over US politics?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:54 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Doesn’t matter what you or I want Brendan The fact is by international laws Taiwan cannot claim to be an independent nation without Beijing saying so. Whether they get it by referendum with Beijing permission or by fighting for its independence and winning. All I’m doing now is correcting your misinformation. You stop posting misinformation I’ll stop correcting you.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:03 PM

    @Ger Whelan: Taiwan is de facto an independent country. It runs itself. If it is part of the PRC, why does the PRC test its ability to “seize power” over Taiwan? That acknowledges that it does not already have power.

    In May, China’s foreign ministry spokesperson, Wang Wenbin, said: “Taiwan independence forces will be left with their heads broken and blood flowing after colliding against the great … trend of China achieving complete unification,” according to a Reuters translation. Not something that you’re likely to hear from London ministers over Scottish independence efforts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/24/china-military-drills-drills-seize-power-taiwan-president-inauguration

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:17 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: What did the Spanish government do when the people of Catalonia held an illegal referendum and declared its independence? Did it accept it or put it down with hostile force and arrest those that challenged the Spanish government’s authority. Funny how that was acceptable to you and you don’t recognise Catalonia’s independence. I would imagine if the Americans left Taiwan alone and stopped doing military drills with it China would stop there’s. But of course it’s okay when the Americans interfere in other countries’politics that have nothing to do with them. Brendan all your misinformation will not change the fact that Taiwan is part of China. Keep posting all the misinformation you want that won’t change. All your doing is proving you’ll lie when it suits your agenda

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:28 PM

    @Ger Whelan: Taiwan did not secede from the PRC. Taiwan was never part of the PRC. You’re confused and incoherent.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:31 PM

    @Ger Whelan: @Ger Whelan: Taiwan has its own government, elected by its own people.

    They make and apply their own laws.

    The laws of the PRC have no meaning or effect in Taiwan.

    By definition, Taiwan is an independent nation.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:37 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: if I’m “confused and incoherent” so is your government, the American government, the British government, the EU parliament and every single democratic country that recognises Taiwan as part of china. I’ll take all there recognition over a guy who has different opinions to suit his agenda.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:45 PM

    @Ger Whelan: The situation on recognition is not as simple as you are making out.

    ‘But a study by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, an American think tank, found that 51 member states officially used wording the same or similar to China’s.

    And across the UN membership of 193 countries, the study found, there were ten different “one China” policies at the UN.

    Most start off the same way – recognising the People’s Republic of China as the legal government of China.

    But after that, things begin to diverge.

    Some countries “respect” or “recognise” China’s claim over Taiwan, others “take note of it.” Others still make no mention of Taiwan’s sovereignty at all.

    And there remain 12 UN member states that officially recognise the Republic of China in Taiwan as China’s legal government.

    These Taiwan loyalists have dwindled over the years as the People’s Republic has gained economic and political might. The tiny Micronesian state of Nauru was the most recent to jump ship, just last Monday.

    Perhaps the definition of the one China policy is so elusive largely because the architects of the most famous one, drawn up by the United States as it set about normalising relations with Beijing, intended it to be.

    Not because they wanted to confuse future politicians, as other countries established diplomatic ties with Beijing and severed them with Taipei.

    It was because ambiguity was the only way they could get the deal over the line – that was to officially recognise Beijing while maintaining cultural, commercial and other unofficial ties with Taiwan.

    And so was constructed an artful diplomatic fudge where the two sides agreed on a form of words but walked away with quite different interpretations.’

    https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2024/0121/1427634-one-china-policy/

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:54 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: President Joe Biden had a blunt message after voters in Taiwan elected a new president Saturday: We do not support independence for Taiwan. Last I’ll say on the matter. Funny how you accuse me of supposedly looking for “argument” when here you are doing all you can to argue against your own government, and pretty much every government on the planet. Good man Brendan you clearly know better than everyone else.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:12 PM

    @Ger Whelan: Governments have to be cognisant of China’s power: you may have heard of realpolitik. Individuals can take matters like freedom, democracy and human rights into account. You choose not to do that and instead to back the bully: good for you, but to be consistent you should also be backing Israel and Russia.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:06 AM

    So he believes the election commission will help him..the same commission he’s been telling anyone that will listen stole the last election from him?
    That country is I dunno..I find it really hard to believe they got to the moon

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:39 AM

    The Democrats are clearly misusing campaign funds…in Diaper Donny’s opinion the only time they can be transferred to a woman is when she’s a porn star shaking you down for hush money.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:23 AM

    He just can’t stand that a woman may beat him so he plays dirty no surprise there

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:39 AM

    @Karen Marten: Didn’t he beat one of the most powerful women in American politics to win the presidency in 2016?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:44 AM

    @Ger Whelan: Not on the popular vote.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:10 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Does the American president get elected on the popular vote? No it doesn’t and that’s why he became president. Will you now argue against American democracy?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:13 PM

    @Ger Whelan: Obviously it would be more democratic to go by the popular vote.

    (I can take it as read that you will argue against this till the cows come home.)

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:20 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: I am not arguing anything your the one disputing trump beating Clinton for the presidency. you say in one breath we must protect American democracy and in the other breath say you’d prefer it to work another way. Man you’re unbelievable.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:23 PM

    @Ger Whelan: Yes, I would prefer if the candidate with the most votes were deemed elected.

    Seems reasonable to me, but there’s no accounting for taste.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:31 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Tell that to your own government which doesn’t use the popular vote. Our current Taoiseach was not elected to the Dail on the popular vote was he. It took 15 pass downs of preference voted to see him elected to the dail. But we won’t talk about that will we?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:36 PM

    A run-off between individual candidates is clearly a different matter from a parliamentary election, which is why the president of Ireland is elected on the popular vote.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:39 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: president of Ireland has no power in Ireland to make laws in Ireland does he. Again you’ll change the facts to suit your agenda.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:49 PM

    @Ger Whelan: That is irrelevant. I believe that in a two-horse presidential race, it is more democratic that the winner should be the one with more votes. The US system evolved out of circumstances that no longer pertain, and it would be fairer to change it.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:58 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: I’d feel Ireland would be more democratic if our leader was elected on the first count like the British Pm and not the 15th. The popular vote works for the British parliament so it would work for here don’t you think? But you’ll say no of course won’t you. Because Simon Harris wasn’t elected fairly was he?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:11 PM

    @Ger Whelan: But any system where a minority can win an election cannot be described as a democracy.

    No Republican has been able to win the presidency for over 30 years.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:24 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: Who mentioned the republicans?. Are you suggesting that the US isn’t a democracy?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:25 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: “…No Republican has been able to democratically win the presidency for over 30 years.’

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:32 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: So are you saying the US isn’t a democracy Yes/No?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 3:30 PM

    @Ger Whelan: I wouldn’t know was not interested in American or any politics for that matter but seeing him as a.president and as a riot inducer and his latest guilty verdict he is not a good man and USA would be better off with out him .

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    Jul 24th 2024, 4:08 PM

    @Ger Whelan: The election of president by the Electoral College – as it is currently configured – can lead to undemocratic results.

    Not US Republican president in the last 30+ years has been able to garner the support of the majority, and have only been elected by the vagaries of the Electoral College.

    By definition, those presidents were elected by an undemocratic process.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 4:33 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: By definition then Simon Harris was voted in by an undemocratic process. So he shouldn’t be leading this nation. He didn’t get in on the first count. Less people voted for him so by your own definition the minority won.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:00 PM

    @Ger Whelan: @Ger Whelan: How do you make that out?

    We elect representatives to parliament.
    Those representatives select – or elect, because they do it by vote – a Prime Minister.

    Can you really be Irish, when you seem to know so little about our form of Representative Democracy?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 7:33 PM

    @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere: Did Simon Harris get elected to be a TD in Wicklow by popular vote?. No he didn’t he needed 15 counts of preference votes to get elected. The majority of Wicklows population didn’t elect him. He needs 15 counts. So he was elected by a minority thus he shouldn’t have been elected to represent Wicklow as only the minority wanted him.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 8:14 PM

    @Ger Whelan: And?

    There are TDs elected to parliament.

    Simon Harris was one.

    The TDs in parliament choose a Prime Minister from among their ranks.
    A majority of elected TDs chose Simon Harris.

    Unlike the US Electoral College, where those representing a minority might get to decide their president.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:02 PM

    Maybe Trump is realising he stood a better chance of being elected going against Biden instead if Harris. And now realises he needs to play dirty to stand a chance of winning.
    Sad really!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:15 PM

    @Brian Martin: oh! He wasn’t playing dirty already. Surely an old man like him with cognitive decline should step aside for a younger candidate. He can’t hold a coherent thought and seems to ramble rather incoherently. But hey racism, misogyny and whatever floats your boat.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:36 AM

    It’s a bit rich people claiming foul or that its vindictive of the Trump campaign to file this complaint against the Harris campaign, given its the Democratic Party that has made the presidential campaign about cluster bombing legal actions in the hope that any hit the target, making allegations about election funding abd using dirty tricks to smear all opposing candidates, but primarily Trump.

    Dirty tricks have always been part of politics, but they were carried out in the shadows and to prevent people from seeking election or to drop out early on.

    It seemed like a great strategy to the Democratic Party to openly utilise these dirty tricks against Trump, but as many stated when they adopted these methods, sooner or later these methods will be weaponised right back at them..

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    Jul 24th 2024, 10:45 AM

    @Dvsespaña: What ‘dirty tricks’ are these?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:16 AM

    @Dvsespaña: you know Trump sh*ts his pants, literally sh*ts his pants!

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    Jul 24th 2024, 12:19 PM

    @Dvsespaña: If by ‘cluster bombing’ you mean ‘prosecuting someone justifiably as a result of their own actions’ you are bang on the money. Holding someone to task for sexual assault and money laundering/misuse of campaign funds is not ‘dirty tricks’. The evidence against him in the Georgia case is also irrefutable. If you want to talk about frivilous lawsuits maybe have a look into the 60+ Trump filed trying to overturn a free and democratic election which didn’t uncover a shred of evidence of wrongdoing. Or the literal thousands he filed in his previous business career as an intimidation tactic towards rivals.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:27 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: If you want me to give you a specific answer, you will need to ask a specific question?

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    Jul 24th 2024, 11:31 AM

    It’s game over for America. The politicians have destroyed the country. Migrants are flowing in over the border. The countries debt is running away. The US dollar is not longer being used as the world reserve currency. The petrodollar is dead and inflation is going to destroy the country. America is going bankrupt. They printed too much money and it’s coming back to haunt them.

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    Jul 24th 2024, 1:37 PM

    @Washpenrebel: Those migrants coming over the Southern border are doing so not least because the destabilisation done to their countries by the US, particularly by Reagan making killing fields of Central America, and by the effects of climate Change, which US Republicans are largely responsible for.
    Trump blew out the US national debt to give tax breaks to corporations and billionaires.
    Biden’s admin instead started investments in US infrastructure which will reap future economic and social rewards.
    The US dollar is still the world’s trading currency.
    Oil is still priced in US dollars.

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