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Bishop denies claims he knew priest allegedly abused again

It had been reported that Bishop John Kirby had knowledge that a priest abused children after he was moved to a new parish following abuse allegations.

Bishop John Kirby
Bishop John Kirby
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BISHOP OF CLONFERT, Bishop John Kirby, has denied claims that he knew a priest that had been moved to a new parish due to child sex abuse allegations went on to abuse again.

The claims were made in today’s Irish Times and the Bishop has released a statement saying that they are not true.

He said:

The claim by The Irish Times today that I had knowledge or suspicion that ‘Priest A’ continued to abuse children subsequent to my learning of his conduct in October 1990, and that such abuse occurred in the parishes of Kiltormer and Creagh, Diocese of Clonfert, is incorrect.

Bishop Kirby said that contrary to what is stated in today’s Irish Times: “I am not aware of an acknowledgement by ‘Priest A’ that he abused any child subsequent to October 1990, the date when I first learned of his sexual abuse of a child”.

Again, contrary to what is claimed, I am not in receipt of any complaint and I have neither knowledge nor suspicion that ‘Priest A’ abused a child in either of the parishes of Kiltormer or Creagh subsequent to October 1990.

The Bishop said that in seeking to correct the public record on this matter, he regrets “that this again could serve to exacerbate the hurt which my earlier widely publicised remarks have caused to victims of child sexual abuse and to their families”.

Review

He continued that he invited the National Board for Safeguarding Children in the Catholic Church to conduct its review of the Diocese of Clonfert in the knowledge that he “would be found wanting but also in the hope that my publication of the resulting review would serve as a transparent and objective statement of the safeguarding record of the diocese”.

I published this review on 5 September last and believe that the review report has served this purpose.  I have accepted any criticisms of my past actions and omissions and have apologised for them.  I do so again today.  I am committed to ensuring the implementation of all of its recommendations and to ensuring best practice in the safeguarding of children in the Diocese of Clonfert at all times.

Bishop Kirby said he does not intend to comment any further on the specific cases which arose in the diocese.

The complete records of the diocese were made available to the National Board as part of its review.  All complaints and suspicions of child sexual abuse known to me are also known to An Garda Síochána and to the Health Service Executive.

Last month, Bishop Kirby apologised for controversial remarks he had made, such as stating he “hadn’t a clue” how paedophiles operated and believed child abuse was a “friendship that crossed a boundary”. ““Unfortunately, my words last week, separated from their context, came across negatively,” he said at the time in his apology.

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Comments (64 Comments)

  • I think he has just crossed a line.

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  • Daire 08/10/12 #

    Awful lot of qualifications in the Bishop’s statement. Add a healthy dose of ‘mental reservation’ to the mix and it doesn’t make be believe for a moment that he didn’t know what was going on. Sure wasn’t it just a friendship that went a little over the line anyway !

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  • So, the Bishop, knowing that the priest had already abused a child, moved him to another parish. Did he ever wonder, sipping of his sherry of an evening, “how is Father A doing in that new parish?” Did it never occur to him to pick up the phone to Father A’s Parish Priest and say: “listen, that Father A who is now your curate, he’s had a bit of previous where sexual abuse of children is concerned. I think you should keep a close eye on him.” That is something that would occur to anyone with half a brain and an ounce of concern for the welfare of children. John Kirby is a bishop and a former teacher. He MUST have known of the danger that Father A was going to present to children. It was 1990, for heaven’s sake. He should resign forthwith.

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    • I agree. It all sounds very reminiscent of the behavior of cardinal Brady in the aftermath of his swearing children to silence, after he became aware of the crimes of Brendan Smyth.
      Men of God? I think not!

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    • @Tertullian

      Did you ever hear of ‘brushing it under the carpet’? The catholic church, vatican has so much dirt under their carpets now at this stage they’re afraid to replace them!

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  • Why is anyone surprised ? Nothing has changed the same people are still at the top. The Vatican state and its agents are responsible for facilitating crimes against humanity. In this country alone they knowingly facilitated and covered up the rape, torture , enslavement and abuse of innocent young children . When will they be brought to justice ?

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  • James McCarthy, a Colorado lawyer, has written a historically accurate history of the catholic church. You can get a sample of it at vaticanconspiracies.com for free. The book is on Kindle and is being read all over the world. To keep from being sued the assertions of its future are written as fiction, but it is written as historical fact, and as he goes through the history of the church’s past it is historically accurate, right up to now.

    It is so disgusting that it amazes me that anyone with a heart and a clear head, would give one seventh of their time, and a tenth of their income to this systemically corrupt politio-religio- cabal. Cheers and good fortune to you all who have the courage to think for yourselves. Yes there are good priests, and a few bishops, but it is corrupt, in great measure, from the top down.

    Priestcraft has been the bane of this world. I started being unimpressed with robes, and sacred garments, bells, and smoke, right after a priest came at me with his erection when I was seven.

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    • I’m so sorry to hear that John. I really am. You have achieved, and created, in my opinion an awareness, of the dangers of institutional religions, from the small to the large. I’m lost for words and don’t wish to seem trite. I’m too upset to write anything meaningful, so I’ll just wish you all my best.I wish you all the best, and more.

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  • i agree expecting any red blooded man (or woman) to enter into a profession and not allow them to have sex is ridiculous.

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  • It reads so poorly. I wouldn’t believe a word from his lips. Shameful to lie when you have put yourself forward to be ” gods representative on earth “.To all who suffered and took a stand against these reptiles I thank you on behalf of myself and my children and the generations to come. Lies compounding lies but thankfully the truth shines through and albeit to late for those who have suffered this vile treatment at least there is hope for the children of tomorrow.

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  • Why are we even discussing this issue ? Do any of us believe anything these people say any more ? They are proven liars . . . They are disgraceful and are fooling nobody any more ,except themselves … They should practise what they preach and learn about humanity . Effers !

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  • I totally agree Brian. People should look up the case of Sarah Bland and the assistance she received from the Irish government at the time to protect her and try and bring the perpetrators of her shocking abuse to justice. Some of the politicians that ignored her cries for help and did’nt return her calls/letters are in government at present and some were in the last government. She found no help from social services, solicitors, or politicians, and the big question is why is this?

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  • It is so obvious that Bishop Kirby is not telling the truth.These people still believe that they are above the law . They will continue to do as they please as long as they can get away with it.

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    • Agreed Joe , let us never forget the victims who’s cries will never be heard , who’s pain will never be felt , We must never cease in our quest for justice for our people, our state , our victims , our survivors , our children.

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  • Dmc 08/10/12 #

    I’m sick of the same crap day in day out. The Pope should allow marriage. The priesthood might attract more decent people. I’m not saying all Priests are bad but come on. They go into this profession knowing they can’t have a sexual or a healthy intimate relationship with a woman. The Bible we know today was edited a few hundred years after Jesus died. This edited version gave more power to men and made women look bad. e.g. Mary being the prostitute. I believe that Jesus was married to her.

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    • Dmc 08/10/12 #

      adding to my comment.. This Pope should come out and make sure all these abusers are taken out of the Priesthood and allow marriages. The Catholic Church will never last the way it’s going. No trust anymore. Plus the current Pope looks like Darth Sidious in Star Wars

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    • Jesus didn’t exist. Myth.

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    • It’s sad to see idiots like William allowed to post on here. I think you’ll find that Jesus did exist regardless of your beliefs. Or ignorance.

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    • @Dmc

      That won’t happen. The vatican is a law open itself. Catholics are mere servants to their rules. Never to be questioned. Deny, deny, deny.

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    • Tut tut Michelle. Did that come as a shock? No doubt you can supply some evidence your god/prophet existed? Otherwise who’s the idiot?

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    • Michelle, who do the two women at the end of this excerpt remind you of?

      “The New York Times called it one of the most remarkable theological discussions since the days of Martin Luther , reporting that Drews caused a sensation by plastering the town’s billboards with posters asking, “Did Jesus Christ ever live?” According to the newspaper his arguments were so graphic that several women had to be carried from the hall screaming hysterically, while one woman stood on a chair and invited God to strike him down”

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  • no i’m being pretty upfront of what i think, i am reasonably informed of the legal implications of these cases which are primarily to protect identity of vicitms in these cases especially when they are 15 years of age , I think you ll find that as the most likely genuine reason for the limited reporting on the matter , nothing to do with me sitting on sidelines

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  • Tony, spot on. The idea of Justice is in danger of getting lost in linguistics. Buggery is buggery, no matter what collar you wear.

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  • He’s an absolute disgrace. The Church is an absolute disgrace. This bastard should be thrown in jail.

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  • I became a Catholic 56 years ago, and soon afterwards my parents were received into the Church. That was all in the late ’50s. How happy we all were and what wonderful Christians Mum and Dad were.

    I have spent all my life, from the age of 14, working (often voluntarily) for the Church as an organist/choirmaster, culminating in nearly 20 years as Director of Sacred Music at the shrine in Knock.

    What purports now to be “the Catholic Church”, particularly in this country, bears so little resemblance to the Church into which I was received that, after 56 years, I have reverted to my original Christian beliefs. There is such a dearth of Christianity now in Catholicism. God help them!

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    • Barry 08/10/12 #

      The sad fact is John that the issues we read about now we’re happening during your time in the church.

      Although you may not have personally heard or seen anything these awful things happened and sadly the churches continued lack of proper meaningful action shows they care very little

      I’m guessing they just wish it would all blow over

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    • Barry 08/10/12 #

      The sad fact is John that the issues we read about now we’re happening during your time in the church.

      Although you may not have personally heard or seen anything these awful things happened and sadly the churches continued lack of proper meaningful action shows they care very little

      I’m guessing they just wish it would all blow over….. But it wont

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    • John….it always was and always will be corrupt. It’s man made.

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    • Imagine John, all those years of commitment and a belief in an organization that you thought was a force for good and yet behind the scenes the most heinous crimes were being perpetrated against the most vulnerable citizens of this state. The church of today is no different to the church of yesteryear its just that they were more powerful in your days and did a great job of covering up their crimes.
      I am happy that you have liberated yourself from the grip of that corrupt organization. For you and your family like so many others were unwitting victims to their propaganda and lies . I may not share your religious views however I thank you sir for sharing your story and wish you and your kin well ! Please never forget the victims , go in peace.

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  • Culture of establishment paedos and satanists. This goes on in every country in the world. Denial, denial, lack of evidence, coverups etc etc…. jimmy savile being a perfect example of this where his paedo friends higher up protected him.

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  • Madeline this has nothing to do with religion. Nobody mentioned protestants. Have you not read the posts. This has to do with a corrupt organization raping, torturing and abusing children. CHILDREN. Yes! lets do as you suggest and let the pedophiles and the powerful organization that protects them just be! ,shall we ? How insulting to the thousands of victims . I am a former catholic denouncing the organization known as the vatican AKA Roman Catholic Church for its crimes against humanity. A subject which you clearly have no appreciation or understanding of. Go do some research please before you try to patronize the Irish nation.

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  • What does it matter anymore. The government are doing sweet FA about existing crimes and Catholics out there are continuing to fund this church/commercial enterprise because they are selfish and are afraid to think for themselves.

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    • It always matters Liam we owe it to the victims who can’t speak up for themselves, the thousands of innocents , all people of this nation for we are all victims , even the ones who in their ignorance actively support the the vatican state. The Vatican is a foreign power and agents of that power carried out crimes against our citizens on our soil. These were crimes against humanity . We as a nation deserve justice. In fact we would be illegally entitled as a nation to declare war against the Vatican state for what they did. Anyone ever wonder why they are not signatories to the charter for human rights. Why they aligned themselves and signed agreements with the worst fascists in World history. They need to be exposed and brought to justice.

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    • Legally entitled

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    • Legally entitled ……damn iPhone

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    • I agree that the victims deserve justice. But, the government aren’t going to give it to them. It’s so bloody frustrating.

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  • i dont think it was a case of going unnoticed as you put it , the sports writer in question – the story i read in the media – had a serious breakdown and was put on suicide watch- media organisations have to be extremely careful how they handle such cases – if they guy has just been charged it is unlikely he can be named while the case is pending a court hearing – reporting of people charged before the case (which may get a jury ) is heard is not straightforward, its difficult to manage the trial by media or the case may collapse , especially for people the public know…i think you are oversimplifying this saying its a big conspiracy by the media companies.

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  • @John Murphy

    You’re a great man. May that sick, cancerous excuse of a human being have a horrible life and a worse death and may he go to hell forever.

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  • Hi Phillip lets see how many people agree with your comments then.

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  • Or Every Single Town

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  • Holocaust survivors look for gold stolen by Nazi and deposited in Vatican bank . This is legit.

    http://vaticanbankclaims.com/april%202009.htm

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  • A contributor questioned the existence of Jesus well Josephus of Tacitus a prominent Roman historian so no love lost there actually mentions Jesus and his crucifixion in his writings.He was a first century historian so close to the actual events of the time.

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    • Ghandi methinks you are being misled. See this very informative website and you might just learn something!

      http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/josephus-etal.html

      Jesus, Mohammed, the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, the easter bunny, Loch Ness monster and a host of Leprechauns, goblins and little green men from space, people will believe in anything and even when they have no evidence it’s easy to make it up, remember Ghandi, Man made God NOT the other way around!

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  • Do you realise how offensive this is?

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  • Hey Journal where’s my POPE acronym gone

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  • Apologies for the double/triple posts. It seems that the machines might be thinking for themselves.

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  • Dhakina I don’t see double posts from you. I thought I was doing the same , because I was seeing double posts. The journal advised me there was no duplicates. Must be a glitch somewhere.

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  • David I sort of agree, sitting on the sidelines, is that not what your are doing?

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  • Ed I beg to differ but I’ll respect your beliefs please respect mine.

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    • Why should anyone respect a “belief or beliefs”. Respecting a persons right to have those beliefs is a very different matter. To me religion is a load of dangerous hogwash, it is a way to control people. I will never respect the belief in the supernatural it deserves nothing but ridicule and contempt.

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  • David I said nothing of any conspiracy and well aware of the delicate legal implications involved. However the media organisations and their legal teams seem to be able to surmount these difficulties when it comes to reporting equally difficult situations involving other groups rather than themselves. 18 months is a rather long time and why not report it today?

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    • That we should be “concerned with potential cover ups” by multiple media companies kind of implies conspiracy , the journal closed down the feedback / comment sections today on Anglo execs story this afternoon for a similar reason , it’s pretty easy to sit on the sidelines saying there’s a cover up , you said your self your awre of the legal implications but won’t accept that as a valid reason , it can also be further complicated when as in the case mentioned it’s an employee of ghe media company , I just think your wrong to be drawing parallels of the extensive abuse covered up by the church with the one case in question.You mightn’t like it but the “can’t be named for legal reasons afforded to people also applies to people who are employed in media , the case needs to go through the proper process and I’m pretty sure will be covered when the case concludes.

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  • David, you did not answer the question why not report it today as the Independent did? Are you a member of the NUJ?

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  • David, maybe your right and also nothing of me ” sitting on the sidelines” either,your phrase.

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  • Ireland y’all really still have some issues with Catholics and Protestants huh? Let’s… just chill and let everyone just be

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