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Government proposes levy on insurance policies – to pay for Quinn bailout

A new bill published by Michael Noonan will place a 2 per cent levy on insurance premiums – to cover Quinn Insurance’s losses.

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Updated, 12.21

FINANCE MINISTER Michael Noonan has published a new insurance bill which proposes to place a 2 per cent levy on almost all insurance premiums – creating a pool of money to be used to cover the losses of Quinn Insurance.

The Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2011 will place a levy on all policies other than life assurance, all of which will go into the Insurance Compensation Fund – which will then be used to cover ‘solvency breaches’ in the fallen insurer.

The scheme is a similar proposal to the government-sanctioned levy on insurance policies to cover the collapse of PMPA insurance in 1983 – which led to a similar levy being put on most insurance policies for nearly a decade afterwards.

The move will come despite Quinn Insurance Ltd’s administrators selling some of the company’s assets to US-based multinational Liberty Mutual – in a move which secured €200m for the firm.

A government spokesman explained that the fund – which has been in existence since the mid-1960s, but is rarely used – would probably be needed because of Quinn Insurance’s major losses in 2009, now estimated at €906m, and a further estimated loss of €160m in 2010.

This would lead to major ‘solvency breaches’, according to the company’s administrators, who will then need to apply to the High Court for approval to seek money from the fund to cover the losses and to make sure that the company can still afford to meet claims as they come in.

The Central Bank is then required to pass on advice to the Minister for Finance, telling him whether he will need to put extra cash into the fund to cover any application from the courts.

The government insists that any money paid over from the Exchequer to the fund will be repaid – but that will be little consolation to struggling households, which will now pay more for insurance to cover Quinn’s losses.

The fund is expected to be called into action in the coming months, when Quinn’s administrators ask the fund for €320m to cover any claims that may be put in – but with the fund only holding €40m at present, the public will have to foot the bill for tying the company over.

Quinn Insurance went into receivership after Anglo Irish Bank moved to claim around €2.8bn owed to it by Seán Quinn and his companies.

Quinn had borrowed the money to place bets on the movement of Anglo’s share price – eventually running up debts in the region of €2.8bn.

Among the provisions of the new bill is a clause requiring any company seeking money from the fund to keep at least 70 per cent of their business within Ireland – in a move to ensure that the taxpayer is not footing the bill for saving a company which then moves abroad.

The Irish Insurance Federation welcomed the publication of the bill, but called on Noonan to remove the 3 per cent stamp duty already imposed on premiums to offset the cost to the public.

IIF chief executive Mike Kemp said the Bill brought “much needed clarity on which policies will be subject to it and what purposes administrators will be able to use Compensation Fund drawdowns”.

The High Court yesterday asked the European Court of Justice to decide on whether it had jurisdiction on whether Anglo could pursue the Quinn family’s assets held overseas – with the Quinns having moved some assets in Cyprus beyond Anglo’s reach.

Read: Quinn insurance lost €706 million in 2009 >

More: Quinn told politicians he “made mistakes” in racking up €2.9bn debt >

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Comments (32 Comments)

  • Why are the Quinn’s not housed in one of the 1 bed apartments held by nama they are bankrupt and like everybody else they should be treated the same. Why are the taxpayer being punishe swhile these people still hold on to their cars, houses,jobs etc. Wreckless trading is a crime for all these people but nobody is arrested? Cosy little arrangements for some while a harsh xmas for the people who foot the bill.
    I fear that some of these people or their families will be subjected to staying at home this xmas and will not get in the skiing — how will they cope?

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  • Im sorry but no. No way Im paying any government increase on my insurance because a private company racked up ridiculous losses. Didn’t the insurance industry consistently have process in excess of €1 billion a year during the boom? So they reap the rewards during the bad times, and we are then mad to cover their asses in the bad times. Im normally pretty level headed about austerity measures and bail outs but the insurance industry really gets my back up.

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  • We never learn the lessons of history in this country….. and we are doomed to repeat the mistakes ad nauseum……. what a Banana Republic we truly are.

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    • FG and FF have between them bankrupted the state 4 times in 90 years. The Drive for 5 has begun!

      No accountability, bailout the big boys, no one goes to jail, no complete overhaul of this rotten state and off we go again. Next Bust 2025.

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  • Why shouldn’t they increase your insurance rates. It’s not as if you are going to do anything about it but moan on the journal. In any case the same suits be voted back in again so count our selves lucky they went easy on us this time. I’ll be marching with other citizens this winter while the moaners sit at home scraping money to keep them selves warm. While the quinns and everyone you bailed out with your wage packet be nice and warm. It’s time to say enough it’s time to stand as united citizens and voice our anger.

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    • Billy…. it’s really nice of you to attack all your potential allies before you organize this march!!

      Hopefully you will not be on your own for this protest….. where are you proposing to march…. who will be your allies?

      What do you hope to achieve…… I don’t think there is a single person here who does not share your disgust with those who brought our Nation to this sorry state…

      But the people voted in a Democratic Election last Feb.

      We had an Historic result…. the politicians who did this were destroyed….. so the question is…

      What Next…… Will your march have a more just outcome?

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  • How about some penalties and jail time for the wrong-doers? And let’s relaeas Teresa Treacy.

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    • so agree with you …. it’s obvious that the gov takes no notice of the public mood. All the economies we make at home are wiped out in a stroke of a new tax…. so what we should do it NOTHING… especially when it comes to the new household / septic tank (if it applies) and NOT PAY THOSE BILLS. If we ALL refuse to pay, what can they do??????
      they can’t put us all in jail. We can march and parade all we like but it’s COMPLETELY ignored….. so do nothing – don’t pay – peaceful civil disobedience

      The tax payer as a turnip (and getting blood out that turnip) has been bled dry.

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  • Calling all Gang bosses and petty thugs, go get a degree in politics and/or business studies, and rob more money than you ever thought possible,don’t worry though as you will still be able to destroy individuals and ravage whole communities on a nationwide scale plus you will never have to look over your shoulder again in fear of an assassins bullet or the authorities!!

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  • pagan 14/09/11 #

    In the name of god where are people going to get this money when car and house policy comes up.Why should people of ireland pay for quinns f..k up.He like orthers were trying to make a quick buck during the boom years and we are now paying for it.

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  • How ironic. Quinn undercut other insurance companies for years, now other insurance companies have to overcharge for years.

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  • This is the same thign that happend in the 80s with AIB’s insurance arm ICI. History repeats itself in Ireland.

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  • Note to the Government: F*ck off putting levys on everything, and you wonder why nobody is spending??? Cause we’ve NOTHING left….

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  • I would guess almost every home in Ireland has a car and/or house insurance. nice little stealth tax you will all happily accept

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  • Nothing changes, in fact it gets worse! :(

    So we now have:
    New levy on insurance;
    Increase on house and car insurance;
    New house tax;
    New septic tank payment;
    Bank increased my interest rate;

    My pay cut;
    My ESB is gone up;
    My diesel bill has gone up;
    My Gas has gone up;
    My heating oil has gone up;

    Whats honestly left to take, is it really any wonder that suicide rate is up 40%???

    We pay, they all get off. Something HAS to change.

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  • What a joke. Tax payer expected to pay for someone elses bad gambling debts. Will we accept it? That levy, house hold charge, septic tank levy, water charges and changes in tax bands etc., coming down the line in the next budget. Where the hell do these people expect folk to come up with all this money?

    Here’s a suggestion I read else where.

    Pick a date and everybody cancel their car insurance at least then you would be able to keep some extra money in your pocket. If enough people did it what would / could the authorities do?

    Time for people to start looking at civil disobedience options to voice their opposition to this destruction of our lives for something the majority of us were not involved it.

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  • Waitiing for the NAMA Levy to be in place.

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  • @pilib let Cavan pay the fing levy then

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  • Sorry you took up my post wrong. I’ll simplify it for you. I was using sarcasm to elevate how we are all being taken for and to basically say the Irish people united can stop the fleecing of your wage packet used for bail outs of the elite when should be used for schools and the vulnerable list goes on which should no be taken lightly.
    On a democratic level this country was founded on people willing to take a stand for all off us and they protested with their lives. I believe in democracy but not corruption.

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    • @Billy….. I don’t think I misunderstood you at all.

      You are advocating street politics… which may turn into the type of Revolution which lead to the foundation of this State….. this in 1916 had no Democratic mandate.

      But look at the Bourgeois Republic which emerged from 1916… we through off the yolk of foreign rule, allegedly!!

      Did we ever have full Economic and Political Independence???

      and now we have come full circle

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    • @Danny Murray. The state was rotted from the start but for that you have to look to men like Cosgrace and o’Higgins, Dev who wanted a free Ireland but only on there terms. This is not about the treaty or its merits but about the Golden circle that was always in Irish people and the face that people here. 1916 was not the problem, it could be convincingly argued that the endemic corruption and cronysim of the Irish Parliamentary Party became the model of the new state, not the aims of the 1916 republic, which were very advanced for their time, and which many European countries only adopted decades later.

      The rebels had one generation backing them, but there were several that were schooled in the old ways of the IPP who reverted to type, even from their own ranks.

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  • Anglo bails out Quinn when his CFDs go wrong by unloading his share overhang to Anglo clients using non recourse loans. Anglo share price and bank enter a death spiral driven by mountains of developer debt. Cowen-Lenihan decide it would be helpful if taxpayer foots the bill for all the mess. It is all perfectly reasonable in the alternative Ireland.

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  • Quinn doesn’t need to survive they’re plenty of insurance providers in this country as for jobs most would be picked up by other insurers with increased business after the Quinn collapse.

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  • Michael Noonan, in no uncertain terms, Go Fuck Yourself.

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  • Only in Ireland would this happen, the Quinn’s go on living like lords whilst the ordinary struggling hard working people and the many who have lost their jobs are punished by having to pay a levy for the criminals who reaped the rewards but then stuck the debts on the state and true to form along come the govt. to fleece the ones at the bottom of the income sector to pay for the big offenders at the top. Great fucking country!

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  • well may be selfish here but anything that keeps the quinn group up and running is good idea, the man gambled on anglo and lost but a drive too ballyconnal in cavan will let you know what the group means to west cavan and the the surrounding areas, either there be a 2% levy or a couple thousand on the dole

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    • Save the Quinn Group but leave Sean and his family on housing list.

      That’s business in the real world. If he was in America or Germany or Holland or Sweden etc etc, bankruptcy would be the least of his concerns.

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