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Government will review grants for fee-paying schools

Ruairí Quinn
Ruairí Quinn
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THE GOVERNMENT WILL review decisions to grant capital funding to fee-paying schools in Ireland according to the Minister for Education Ruairí Quinn.

Speaking on RTÉ’s This Week programme, Quinn said that with money scare, the capital funding for such schools would have to be looked and that said that funding would have to be prioritised for schools that need it most.

He added:

Nothing can continue the way it was, because the country is in receivership.

His comments came after RTÉ published figures showing that over €8 million had been given in building grants to the country’s wealthiest schools by the Department of Education over the last three and a half years.

This is on top of the €100 million per year that fee-paying schools receive in teachers’ wages which amounts to over €1 billion in wages given to fee-paying schools since 2000.

The Teachers’ Union of Ireland has already called for the annual funding of teachers’ to be withdrawn describing it as a “funding of privilege” and said that fee-paying schools were engaged in “educational apartheid”.

Read more on fee-paying school grants on RTÉ >

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  • Apathy Now 15/05/11 #
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    More socialist clap-trap

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  • Roxy Blue 15/05/11 #
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    How in the name of jaysus do the government think it’s acceptable to fund and award grants to private fee paying schools???? I work in the private sector, you don’t see them scrambling over themselves to pay my wages!!!! Cannot wait to get out of this backwards sh*thole of a country, I just feel sorry for anyone that can’t leave

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  • colm mac chuarta 15/05/11 #
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    It’s the job of a Union to protect the terms, pay & conditions of it’s members! Are the teachers in the fee paying schools not entitled to the same reptesentation? Why the double standard with the TUI?

    It’s matter of goverent policy if these teachers are paid by the state or not; since this policy has no bearing what so ever on the pay, terms & conditions or other teachers then surely it’s well beyond the scope of a union!

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  • John Phelan 15/05/11 #
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    More socialist spin based on an inaccurate presentation of the facts.

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  • Guinness Follower 15/05/11 #
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    It seems to me that a family earning the minimum wage and who pay their tax are subsidising families who choose to send their children to Blackrock College. How can that be fair?

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    • Apathy Now 15/05/11 #
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      Over the years from my modest income I have paid enough in taxes to send 3 children to school,problem is that I only have one so how can that fair?

  • Noirin Lynch 15/05/11 #
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    IMO, the issue is not about paying teachers or even about capital grants for private schools. The issue is that, in the face of severly limited funding; it is inappropriate that the wealthiest in society receive money for building repairs and extenions to schools at present. As far as I’m concerned, private schools can have all the grant allocations they want once every primary school in Ireland has inside toilets and classrooms (not prefabs) for all its children, once schools in regeneration areas aren’t having necessary teachers cut, once everyone who needs a Special Needs assistant can get one, once children in the care of the State can have proper access to their social worker. Until then the issue remains, not about (moderately?) wealthy peoples rights, but about poor peoples rights!

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  • Stephen Robb 15/05/11 #
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    I go to a fee-paying school and conditions are a disgrace! Its below the national average in terms of standards. We’ve been trying to secure a grant for the past 8 years for a badly needed renavation! When I entered 1st year we were promised that by 6th year we would be in a next-to-new school. Im now doing my leaving cert and the school is the exact same! We havnt recieved a cent. Not all private schools are “wealthy”. We need funding too!

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    • Roxy Blue 15/05/11 #
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      Your funding comes from fees. Your school is a for-profit business. Have no parents or students ever questioned what your fee’s are going towards? Surely that would be the intelligent thing to do instead of moaning about how your private fee-paying school is poor and needs additional tax payer money. If you are unhappy with the service provided by any business who is taking your money, it is your own responsibility to complain about it. I doubt many people will sympathise with you

    • Stephen Robb 15/05/11 #
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      We are not looking for simpathy, we are looking for a grant to bring us up to national standards. Private schools are no longer filled with “wealthy” people and public schools with “poor”. A public school in a nearby parish is now regarded as one of the best schools in my county whereas mine (the private school) is still below standards. We pay just as much tax as you so why arn’t we entilted to a grant,
      “Funding would have to be prioritised for schools that need it most”
      Well what if the school that needs it most is in fact the fee-paying school!

    • Roxy Blue 15/05/11 #
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      Your fee paying school is in the business of making money. Teachers salaries are already subsidised by the state, it is not the tax payers fault if your school mis-manages it’s finances and I personally think it is pure greed and an absolute disgrace that private schools charge fees and also expects tax payers to foot the bill. Let’s hope Quinn does the right thing and let’s fee paying schools fund themselves solely. There’s a hell of a lot better resources that money could be used for

    • Tomás Kavanagh 15/05/11 #
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      If this is your logic and your still paying for that school despite it’s inadequacies, maybe the school really is as bad as you say it is.

    • Apathy Now 15/05/11 #
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      Roxy seems to have a difficulty in understanding where the resources of this country come from.

    • Apathy Now 15/05/11 #
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      @ Stephen
      Be aware of the begrudgers who are taking you to task, they seem oblivious of the sacrifices that parents make to send their children to schools where they will improve their chances of a better life. I believe “dumbing down” is the preferred option for far too many in our society. Good luck to you and your school.Schools making a profit for goodness sake,whatever next.

    • Stephen Robb 15/05/11 #
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      Your not getting my point here, yes we pay fees in return for an education so it can be seen as business. But theyre simply not making enough to bring our facilities and buildings up to scratch! Now every parent who sends their children to a private school pays the excat same taxes as you. They pay for the running of public schools just as much as you. I’ll quote again;
      “Funding would have to be prioritised for schools that need it most”
      Our school for example falls into the category of a “school that needs it most”. So why cant we get a grant that we’ve paid of just as much you have. Think about it!
      As regards to the fees that we pay, yes teachers are subsidised but what about the day-to-day running of the school? Thats not paid for by the government.
      Now this is just my school im talking about, i dont know what the situation is with other fee paying/public schools!

  • Santiago Murphy 15/05/11 #
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    Pity your private school didn’t teach you how to spell sympathy and renovation Stephen

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  • Stephen Robb 15/05/11 #
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    Thanks @apathy now!!
    And @santiago dyslexias a bitch

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    • Barry R. 15/05/11 #
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      Stephen,

      Your school gets the same grant every school gets (on a per pupil basis) from the DOE.
      Your parents have chosen to pay an additional annual fee to the school which is essentially, additional direct funding.
      If your school cannot provide you with tuition/ resources to match the total funding they receive then your folks have wasted their money.

      Perhaps the name of the school and the image took precedence over the teaching record when your parents were deciding ??

  • Csec Bio 15/05/11 #
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    If “the country is in receivership.” Why isn’t the wages of the top politicians being cut usually business owners take a major pay cut (or even a wage freeze) to protect their employees, The Government protect themselves and the rich. I am still waiting for the “Democratic Revolution” promised by Mr. Enda Kenny when he got elected!

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    • Bob Coggins 16/05/11 #
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      They have been cut. Just saying.
      And well put @Barry R…

    • Csec Bio 16/05/11 #
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      Bob they have been reduced but not nearly enough as is required. Social Welfare, Medical Card Holders, Minimum wage employees (although this is getting reversed) have had more drastic cuts imposed on them. I think the proposed referendum on Judges wages should be a referendum on Public Sector wages in general. Something along the lines of Head of government gets €150000 per year, heads of state bodies, semi-state bodies (including Banks) get the same. If the government wants to reduce the minimum wage or social welfare they have to reduce the top wage first by 1.25% for every 1% on the lower wage rates and if they want to increase their own wage they have to increase social welfare and minimum wage by 1.4% for every 1% increase.

      Of course the government are going to argue that this breaks the contracts of the top earners, well they had no problem breaking the contracts of Minimum wage earners and the entry level civil servants.

    • Barry R. 16/05/11 #
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      Thank you Bob
      :o)
      Im more used to red thumbs !!

  • Louise Gleeson 16/05/11 #
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    I’m a bit on the fence on this one. My kids will be going to private school as my eldest is one of those kids that need an SNA and is having trouble getting one. The private school here is fab in dealing with children with special needs where the public school he would go to has 6 first year classes of 30ish kids each. We’re not raking it in. In fact we’re in a pretty crappy state since the last budget but I happen to believe that childrens education is the most important thing there is and grants should be up across the board and not being cut. How long will it be before they cut public schools money too!

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