Deliberate targeting and penalising yound male drivers can’t have helped.
High unemployment lack of social out lets and isolation have to be contributing factors. Hopefully the EU ruling on insurance equality will in some small way help.

@ Tom “Hopefully the EU ruling on insurance equality will in some small way help” All this is going to acomplish is the raising of Female insurance. All this government can come up with to help anything is raise or increase revenue generating taxes and charges on everything. When they can dream up a Self Harm tax they will pat themselves on the back, and think they’ve solved it.

Most young guys strive to have a car and what the insurance cartel done was rip off and penalise young male drivers with stats that didnt reflect claims. Saying female insurance has to go up now isn’t a good reason to revert back to unfairly penalising young male drivers. I paided for both my son and daughters insurance so I’m seeing the impact at both sides but hopefully over all the insurance will be less.

Its this type of discrimination along with media and socity at large that subjects young males to a feeling that they are of lesser value especially if they are unemployed.

I agree Marlon,
I have personally met with Kathleen Lynch on this very subject (May 2012). Despite 2 medical experts telling her that prescription drugs are causing suicide, she has done nothing. http://leoniefennell.wordpress.com/2012/05/03/the-medical-experts-meet-in-leinster-house/
Useless Government, all talk and couldn’t care less.
Leonie

Leonie…

This is a very sad situation. I truly have bope we tbe people not our government will find a solution to this and other issues. It is clear that our politicians and government officials can’t think themselves out of bag.

Furthermore, I would like to put forward. If our government was run more like a business. Where the bottom line translated to results. Where yearly audits where completed and published to the share holder (us the people). Where KPIs is used to measure success…. Then we would see a clear line of action.

A business’s success is related to having the right people in place to tbe job. It is clear that we haven’t had the right people in place to the job of running this country and tackling serious issues as suicide for very very long time.

Gritty and real ! What do you say Kathleen ?

@leonie. yes those prescription drugs have alot to answer for.

Very true, the Catholic Church with its very own rope around our necks doesn’t help. i.e the stigma they attach to being gay and abortions.

Yes Carolyn
That’s what causes young men such distress – worrying what the catholic church thinks of them.
Maybe you can shoehorn FF, the EU, Inda, the Israelis and the X factor into the equation as well…

Hakuin, if you havent copped the effect of centuries of catholic rule has had on the psyche of people – in general – and their attitudes to anyone or anything ‘different’ you got some thinkin to do

“Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.” I’m afraid that a simplistic view taken by people who can’t or don’t want to understand.
The problem is that many young men take their own lives because they see it as a “……..permanent solution to a PERMANENT problem. That is, no prospect of employment, the social stigma and pressures of having no meaning in life because of no money or work and exacerbated by maybe being the only one in their peer group in that situation.
The Government needs to tackle this with at least the same vigour as they have taken on drink driving. Then again, would Ibe too cynical in stating that when young people take their own lives, its one less on the live register.
But then again, they would never think like that!………….or would they?

That’s exactly how they think Gerry, We are nothing but numbers and all they care about is balancing their books! They don’t give a phuck about any of us or our families! Listen to how they speak to us, they’ve nothing but contempt for us, we’re like the piece of sh!t on the bottom of their shoes.

The government dehumanizes the “bottom of the barrel”, but they rely on it for their livelihoods. We may be just numbers to them, but numbers can be powerful when they’re rocking the boat.

Absolutely, suicide is predominantly a male issue, there will be lots of comments about stereotypical mental health issues affecting men, but they miss the point. The narrative is always that there must have been something fundamentally wrong with someone who took an extreme measure in the face of hopelessness and it’s almost along the lines of victim blaming.

Men issues are ignored in general, their role in society is never acknowledged unless it has been framed from a feminist friendly perspective, being a man in today’s society is a minefield especially in relation to family law.
The State encouraged destruction of a basic collective unit of society – the family, and the huge increase in children growing up without the role models that are crucial to a childs development further undermines and makes men invisible.
I attended recently a conference on Homelessness in Ireland where the main speaker who was a woman preceded to tell the attendees that Homelessness in Ireland is predominantly women’s issue and more resources are needed to combat this and that the recession affects more women than men. The next slide in her presentation showed that roughly 25% of homeless people are women. However as the talk went on it dawned on me that there was no mention of the other glaring 75% of the picture.
It speaks for itself.

Male suicide 4 times higher
Secondary School drop out rates – Twice the number of boys are earlyschool leavers
Homelessness – 75%
Family Law courts – biased against fathers
Domestic Violence against men – framed as a non issue when it’s as huge and under-reported
Alcohol/Drug abuse deaths – 66% of those who died were men, with the 25- to 44-year age group having the highest number of fatalities.

Most young men are trivializing the problems they face in society… Some men however, do feel the problem and it’s anything but trivial to them.

Stop linking in a government rant in an article about suicide.

Sadly mental health disabilliy elderly people sick children are not top priority for our goverment thats my point.

Again Lee you fail the test. You not rte have brought the bondholders & all that bagage to this thread. You have nothing to say about suicide. The news on rte have had stories about it & the journal is great at discussing it. Im looking to you to put your back to the wheel. Our society must change its attitude to suicide. We must all take responsibilty & that includes you. I know as do most others commenting on the journal about government shortcomings however that has nothing to do with our attitude to suicide. They wont/cant change but we have to. Our children are dying before we are & for me thats not natural.

Jesus Christ. All you’re doing is ranting off a populist line of claptrap which has nothing, NOTHING, to do with the topic at hand. Please, don’t drag another important topic into some old wheeze about “teh bondholderz” or the EU.

I have lost 3 friends to suicide all in one month, my younger brother who is 17 has lost two a young girl and a young boy, I live in a small town and there was never this amount of suicide , this government has failed my generation, they have left us with no jobs no hope they are crippling our families and making it hard for them to live, so you have these young people stuck living at home no hope of a job and watching there parents struggle, no one knows how hard that is until you are in that situation ! It is the governments fault they have destroyed Ireland for my generation, I’m lucky I have my degree I can leave and start my life somewhere Else. The younger generation can see that this is not over it only getting worse and they are made to feel crap because they have to sign on! FF have destroyed this country for my generation and FG just finishing off the work FF were doing ! What I think is a joke is that there was no big issue around suicide until it was one of their own that it tragically happened to, they look afte each other and don’t care about us. I have had enough !

” listening friendly ear”

Again Lee I point to the problem of trivialising suicide. Suicide is a far bigger issue than bondholders & you failed the test. If you have some input about suicide it would welcome.