TheJournal.ie uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Click here to find out more »
Dublin: 11 °C Thursday 20 June, 2013

iForgot: TDs rarely use tablet computers that Leinster House already provides

There are already tablet computers available for TDs to use in the Dáil – but they’ve only been used 25 times since the election.

TDs and Senators will be supplied with their own tablets under an Oireachtas initiative - but few use the ones already made available to them.
TDs and Senators will be supplied with their own tablets under an Oireachtas initiative - but few use the ones already made available to them.
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

IRELAND’S TDS will soon be provided with their own individual tablet computers to be used for work activity – even though they rarely use the facilities that Leinster House already provides for them.

TheJournal.ie has learned that tablet-style devices, bought and paid for by the Oireachtas, have been available for TDs to use for six years – but that interest among the current crop of TDs in using them is minimal.

Oireachtas records obtained exclusively by this website show only seven of the 20 Toshiba devices as having been borrowed for use by members since the current Dáil was elected in February 2011.

Furthermore, the records – which run from 2006, when the tablets were bought, until May of this year – show that the devices have only been used on 25 occasions by the 167 members of the 31st Dáil, and on only two occasions since last August.

The records, released under Freedom of Information legislation, also indicate that two of the devices have only ever used once – by any TD – since they were purchased six years ago.

A spokesman for the Oireachtas confirmed that 25 tablet-style devices had been purchased in 2006 – with 20 provided for the use of members, while the other five were retained by the ICT units for support and backup purposes.

The 20 devices provided for use by members were purchased a cost of €38,782.50, inclusive of VAT and the price of docking stations to charge them.

A comprehensive log of Oireachtas assets also obtained by TheJournal.ie, however, lists only 22 of the devices – suggesting that three of the units have been disposed of in the meantime.

Though it is possible that the devices could be considered obsolete, the fact that they are used so infrequently – just over 250 times in all, an average of 13 times each, since they were first acquired – means their performance is unlikely to have deteriorated in the meantime.

Fine Gael TD for Carlow-Kilkenny, John Paul Phelan, said it was “remarkable how few times these existing devices have been used” – though he admitted he was “not surprised, as I’ve never actually seen one”.

‘Cost-neutral process’

Earlier this week the Oireachtas confirmed its intention to issue a tender seeking suppliers for tablet devices for each member of the Dáil and Seanad.

The Oireachtas plans for its new tablets would have 3G functionality, with the ability to share a member’s mobile phone data package. The cheapest model of Apple’s iPad with 3G capability costs €599.

Alternative cheaper tablets, however, could potentially be sourced for less than half this price – helping to keep down the cost of buying devices for the 224 members of the Oireachtas who don’t already have them supplied.

Fine Gael senator Martin Conway, who is partially sighted, already has an iPad supplied for him; the Seanad chairman Paddy Burke is also provided with an iPad in order to aid Conway’s use of his device.

A Leinster House spokesman said, however, that Oireachtas would aim for the new purchases to be cost neutral, as the use of tablets would mean a reduction in the Oireachtas’s printing costs over the following three years.

“Additionally, the tablets will form part of a general shift to electronic communication between TDs and Senators and their constituents and the general public,” the spokesman said, saying it could ultimately save €1m through eliminating or reducing its printing costs.

Members will also be required to provide their own 3G SIM cards for the devices if they use to use them on a mobile basis, though each device will already have WiFi capability so that they can be used in wireless areas.

Modern parliament

The plan to increase the use of tablet devices has been bill as “another step in modernising our national parliament”, by being able to provide members with electronic copies of bills or enabling them to check facts online during debates.

The new tablets are being considered a direct replacement for the 20 tablets already provided. A spokesman said the devices would remain the property of the Oireachtas, and merely be loaned to members for the completion of their duties.

The spokesman added that members would be offered training for use how to use the devices, and would be expected to take this train – or to confirm that they were already able to use them – before the tablets would be handed over.

Phelan said he believed the proposal to give tablets to every member should be reconsidered.

“Members clearly like the existing system, tablet use hasn’t been huge and – if it’s necessary – I think we should just buy our own,” he said last night.

“Many people are struggling to pay their bills and make ends meet right now and I think it would leave a very bitter taste in the mouth to see 226 Oireachtas members getting iPads.”

Tablet devices are preferred for use by Leinster House authorities to traditional laptops because the absence of keyboards means they are not noisy to type on.

iLawmakers: TDs and Senators to get tablet devices from Oireachtas

  • Share on Facebook
  • Email this article
  •  

Read next:

Comments (57 Comments)

  • DaveC 21/07/12 #

    The 20 original Toshiba tablet devices cost around 38k. That’s nearly €2k each. An iPad costs €599. Am I missing something?

    Reply
  • They’ll still probably print off their emails and post them / memo them to each other.

    Reply
  • So the 20 old tablets that don’t get used cost ?1000 each!
    Lets buy another 224 @ ?134k !
    Buy your own if you need one as its not as if you can’t afford it.

    Some will use them and the rest will give them to there family as a freebie

    Bear in mind that 6 families had to pay household tax just to buy 1 of the 224 Tablets!

    Or you could employ 4 people for a year with that money to man the Childline phones that miss 600 distressed calls a day!

    Reply
  • Yay! recession’s over, look at them, they’re doing a great job, iPads all round everyone!!

    Reply
  • Is it any wonder it’s taking so long to come out of this recession when you give TD’s free iPad’s at €599 when they’re on big salaries and vouched and unvouched expenses. It’s another kick in the arse to the hard working electorate who are facing yet another year of cuts, water charges and higher household charges. It’s a bloody disgrace what they get away with in Government. If they have the intelligence to use one, let them buy it themselves. That’s what goes on in the real world.

    Reply
  • At least Mr. Phelan is clever enough to judge the feelings of the people…. If they need to use tablets, let them buy them, themselves. For TDs to be getting free tablets when they are already on such high salaries would be disgusting and an abuse of privilege.

    I don’t mind if they come to an arrangement whereby they buy them through their ICT dept to ensure uniformity, but the concept of BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) means exactly that. Company ICT strategies are moving this direction to give the end user the freedom to use whatever computing device they prefer to get their work done. It reduces hardware costs for the employer. Likewise in the Dáil, it would be a significant cost-saving initiative only if the TDs were to buy the tablets themselves. As for saving on printing costs, tablets won’t make much difference. However, sharing enterprise-grade network printers with security PINs would have significant cost benefits over providing TDs with their own desktop laser printers, while also allowing auditing of printer usage by TDs.

    Reply
  • and with the gardai and other emergency services crying out for equipment and now this sh1t. How many patrol cars could be put on the road for this? they can find money to spend when they need too!

    Reply
  • We should be suppling ipads and tablets to children with autism and families with children with learning difficulties . Autistic children benefit from these devices by learning to communicate but many families cant afford them. Surely our Td s and Senators can afford to buy their own.

    Reply
  • These tablets are for the politician’s kids and family members. Just another scam.

    I’m serious, we should change the national emblem from a Harp to a Fiddle.

    Reply
  • How much is it gonna cost us for some crony to store the €38,782.50 worth of unused Toshiba tablets in his garage?

    Reply
  • I’m afraid the only problem is, if they do purchase them themselves they will be put down to expenses anyway and if they use the 3G facility on the tablet that will just add on to their phone bill expenses. So maybe it’s a No Win situation for the Tax Payer yet again.

    Reply
  • Google tablets cost 249 euro. Why do they need iPads exactly?? You could cut the cost in half with that

    Reply
  • If they have to buy their own devices they will claim double value expenses and turn a tidy profit. Awesome!

    Reply
  • @Cllr Steve Wrenn. Having just found out that some secondary schools are charging €800 for an ipad plus software per pupil and this being a 100% increase on average on the cost of traditional books, I can’t but find it a little sinister that the leaders of our “knowledge economy” are being provided gratis an aggressively marketed product. The comments above that our politicians are generally technologically inept are a disquieting mirror held up to people who make decisions on our children’s education based on ‘de new shiney ting’.

    Reply
  • 6 year old tablets that cost about 1,200 each…. They should go to the national museum

    Reply
  • 2 self serving muppets in the one photo

    Reply
  • iCantgovern anyone? How about iCantdebate or iLiedmywaytopower??

    Reply
  • maybe its because i dont have one but really dont get tablets. I have a laptop thats easy to work and type on and can plug external hardrives (am i right in saying tablets dont have usbs?) in and is easy for watching/downloading films etc.

    I also have an android smartphone which isnt as functional as a laptop but i can fit it in my pocket/bag and use it anywhere quite easily whearas a tablet is not going to fit in my pocket and it seems like youd have to hold with one hand and type with the other unless u plug in a keyboard which seems like ur getting back to laptop territory especially now when u can get much smaller laptops. i couldnt imagine working on one as easily as a laptop and a smartphone is much smaller and easier to whip out on the bus (and i couldnt see myself making a phone call on a tablet!)

    Reply
  • Does Ming use tablets now ?

    Reply
  • Why are all you ignorant people talking about iPads?
    Before you talk, educate yourselves.
    The tender went out for tablets, not iAnythings.

    Likewise there is a very fair and impartial e-tenders procedure…

    Somebody suggested hat there would be corruption in the process and some TDs friend would get the contract… Educate yourselves, that is so far away from the actual situation, that it’s farcical.

    It would be nice to raise the level of discourse and stop the bandwagonning that goes on here.
    Anybody who works in this area will be able to tell you that a standard tablet for everyone is actually a very cheap way of delivering IT services. There is a very well defined ROI and cost saving in projects like these.

    Reply
    • “Very fair and impartial e-tenders”….what planet are you on…you can only be a public servant.

      E-tenders is not only corrupt but in the IT arena where i have experience a huge number of tenders are incompetent too with unskilled ignorant public servants not knowing what they require, using the tender service to be told what they need and then giving the tender to their chosen buddy wasting a huge amount of private time and resources.

      One corrupt example a major university in Limerick in past 2 years got 30 very expensive Mac Pros. 2 weeks after they were delivered the request for quotes appeared on e-tenders….how is that not corrupt.

      Reply
    • Gavin your language is vulgar and inappropriate. This site needs proper moderation to stop the misuse of language and the libellous description of Public Servants and Members of the Dail. It is one thing to have a freedom to express yourself but Postings such as yours are unacceptable in any Society.

      Reply
    • Sorry Mick I responded to the wrong thread. Me incompetent or wha????

      Care to comment on my post below?

      Reply
  • What planet are some of our TDs living on? It certainly isn’t earth. If they want a tablet, let them buy it themselves.

    Reply
  • Yeah they were obviously terrible, pretty obvious why they weren’t used.

    Reply
  • Let the TDs and Senators buy their own tablets and allow them to get it covered via expenses. If you give them tablets that are still the property of the Oireachtas that acts as a huge disincentive for them to use the devices to the fullest extent.

    Reply
  • Mick apologies that you are offended by my brief descriptions of actual some incompetence and corruption in the public service. Perhaps you should report my comment to the Journal…yes lets brush any mention of corruption or incompetence under the carpet…or perhaps you could get your union to take up the case?

    Of course I see the straw man that you are trying to build and you know well that I am not accusing ALL public servants of being unskilled or incompetent but in my area of expertise, IT I see it week in week out. I know of high end IT resellers that are so tired of the incompetence and corruption they will just not tender for public IT business any more.

    So if the persons making the decisions are not IT qualified and if the top notch IT providers withdraw from selling to the public keep an eye out for many more pulse, HSE payroll and e-voting disasters.

    Where did I slag off politicians BTW? My only gripe with them is that too many are from a pubiic servant background and therefore the dail is unrepresentative of self employed for obvious reasons.

    Where do you work in the public service I may have a story or two from that particular area?

    Reply
  • Get them out ! any excuse to spend tax payer’s money on themselves, what a wonderful one way shop they have going, the Schools can barely get books they need and they do get used, to think we used to pity the Russian’s iron Curtain…

    Reply
  • No Enda … Its the other way round you fool… !

    Reply
  • As Albert Reynolds might have said Thats TDs for ye! The reason why there has been such a poor take is probably because they already have/use their own. This is just another thing in their already cushy lives that they can get us to pay for. We already pay them a laundry allowance, we pay them just to show up for work plus we give them free car parking FOR LIFE as well as subsidizing their food and booze.
    I wonder did Mr Chopra and his pals check out our TDs “package” or was it just the “household package” we give to our elderly and infirm that they found fault with?
    These greedy people make me sick. They’ve no regard for anyone but themselves.

    Reply
    • Yvonne you sound like someone who will always have people better than you, whether thats your supervisor, boss or the local dignitaries or even the local TD. The difference between all of these examples is the TD because there is nothing stopping you becoming one and looking at most of your posts I doubt very much if any of the other positions would either suit you or the other way round. Stop whinging it’s getting my ears to ring.

      Reply
  • This is absolutely ridiculous, what possible use could they have for them?? granted they are quite a nice piece of technology but their usefulness to the job of any td is highly questionable. I assume that most of them already have laptops, and judging by their salaries are probably fairly high end products already. If anything I think that a laptop would be more useful to them, seeing as they are bound to use them for typing documents and such. Can anybody give a good example of why a tablet would be more useful to them then a laptop?? apart from the lame reason of them being quieter to type on.. do tds generally have highly sensitive sense of hearing or something? surely they should be paying attention to proceedings in the Dáil rather then typing away on their tablet pcs anyway. There is no justification in supplying tds with either laptops or tablets, they are more then able to provide their own. Hell anyone who has ever worked a low paying job that requires a uniform knows that the price of said uniform comes out of your wages. As does safety equipment such as steel toe-capped boots etc. F them.

    Reply
  • I’m so sick of this government they are a joke .. If they want iPads then go buy one with your wages like anyone else !

    Reply
  • What’s with the major anti-government buzz on here? We elected them put them up there then shoot at them any chance we get……. and on it goes forever….

    Reply
  • Sergei 21/07/12 #

    There’s a major difference between the types of device:

    The new iPads are pretty useful for media consumption, Web browsing, reading e-books, playing games and so on. The TDs will, I predict, be happy to use them and bring them home.

    The older ones are Windows Tablet PCs, pretty useful for editing and collaborating on workplace documents, using the applications familiar to people who do actual work.

    Satirical points aside, I think giving the TDs Tablet PCs was a bit of techno-optimism that looked good on TV but was less than practical. Tablet PCs have their niche – using one here in fact – but to expect TDs to dive into the world of digital inking and handwriting recognition when many of them would have a less than professional grasp even of Office…

    The iPads will probably be a better fit, if what they really need is just to have have easy access to a hell of a lot of documents. Of course there are cheaper solutions with Google Android tablets, but they won’t be seen as classy enough.

    Reply

Add New Comment