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Dublin: 10 °C Friday 24 May, 2013

Column: As a mother, I’m not not too posh to push… just too scared

“While I’m awestruck by the natural birth brigade, I’ve vowed never to do it again,” says a mother who is opting for a C-section.

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Figures released by the ESRI last week said that Caesarean sections accounted for 27 per cent of all births last year – rising to 36 per cent among mothers in the private system. One mother, now living in Dubai, writes about why she made the choice to have a C-section.

“SO WHEN CAN I mark the delivery date in my diary?” I smiled purposefully, pen hovering, ready to commit the date. “You see my mother is flying out for ten days to give me a hand and she wants to book her flight.” My new doctor raised her thick eyebrows, and fixed me with a steely glare. “Well, you are due in early August my dear– and there might be a two-week margin either way,” she said firmly. “Your mother can adjust her flight nearer the time.”

“Erm, how does that work?” I replied, trying to prevent the alarm from creeping in. Stay in control. Keep calm. “After all, I’m having a planned C-section. Remember?” My doctor flapped her papers about disapprovingly, harrumphed as she read my notes on the computer screen and raised her steely glare to mine once more. “We don’t finalise a date until mid-way through your eighth month,’” she replied eventually, with a non-negotiable twitch of her impressive tash. “Fine. No problem. Just as long as you know that as I’m paying for it, I’m having a C-section,’” I finished, rather firmly for me, I thought.

Natural birth

Now it’s not that I have anything against the ‘natural-birth brigade’. In fact, I am thoroughly respectful and downright awestruck by anyone who can happily push a 3.5kg baby through a hole the size of a tiddlywink and then gush that it was an ‘amazing’ experience that they’d happily repeat. I even gamely tried it once, but found it such absolute hell on earth, that I vowed never – unless I found myself in a post apocalypse – to do such a dreadful thing again.

Yes, the mammoth 50-hour-plus labour, resulting in a broken coccyx, more stitches than a fleet of Olympic sprinters and a poor, battered baby rendered so grumpy by the process that he cried almost non-stop for a year, made me realise that au naturelle is not for me.

Furthermore, most fellow mothers I know when they delivered their precious firstborns, are presented with wonderful, ‘push presents’ – exclusive jewellery pieces given by doting husbands to mark the occasion. Fashionista Mum received a dazzling diamond Tiffany solitaire for her one and only stab at motherhood, while Alpha Mum has a huge, Harry Winston, four-row ‘traffic’ ring, that her rich husband embellishes with yet another astoundingly expensive stone, every time she squeezes an annoyingly perfect child out.

Meanwhile, old muggins here was in such a sorry state after being practically torn in two that the only ring my partner thought to buy me was a blow-up one I could sit on. Admittedly at the time, being able to sit felt even more precious and luxurious than the Cartier emerald eternity ring I’d admired so hopefully in Emirates Towers Boulevard prior to delivery. But still.

Via the sunroof

So youngest son was born via the sunroof (C-section). And the whole process was an absolute revelation. From the business of checking in to my 7am surgical slot, to the vast amounts of pethidine and wonderful aftercare I received in the luxurious private hospital room, I barely felt as though I’d given birth at all. It really was more like I’d been on one of those intensive spa breaks at an exclusive retreat in the Swiss Alps, where you go through a few gruelling, beautifying processes that aren’t very comfortable and then end up with the most spectacular results – in my case, an angelic and contented bouncing baby boy.

And having a baby the way you want to (especially if it’s surgical) is positively encouraged in the UAE. Why? Because expats have to maintain private medical insurance, so our doctors are (usually) sympathetic to requirements. You need to time baby’s arrival to coincide with your husband’s business trip itinerary? Sure thing honey! No problem! Need the delivery to fit in with the school holidays – of course madam! If you want a water birth with accompanying whale-music, Morris dancers and a troupe from New Zealand performing the Haka, there’s a hospital offering that too.

Of course, both my mother and mother-in-law, who are made of sterner stuff (well, they were in the olden days – it was all that carbolic soap) think I’m rather pathetic. ’Your oldest brother was breech, so he came out sideways. I delivered him with zero pain relief after a 600 hour labour and almost lost a leg in the process. But I still cycled the 50-mile London to Brighton annual jaunt a week later with him strapped to my back,’ declared my mother (a matriarch of seven naturally born children). ‘You girls these days are such a bunch of softies.’

Too posh to push?

Mother-in-law is just as bad. Five natural births, the last one with twin boys, has her convinced that the bigger the baby, the less childbirth actually hurts. Of course, it completely defies the laws of physics! But women like this are so damn tough, it’s best not to argue. My point is, I’m not actually too posh to push, I’m just too scared and I’m not afraid to admit it. And neither am I alone. Let’s face it girls, stitches where the sun don’t shine are a real bummer.

Why just this morning, a friend who is due to deliver imminently and had been spewing forth about the virtues of natural birth, did a turn around and confided that she was actually extremely relieved to be requiring a Caesarean. ‘I really didn’t want to go through all that again,’ she muttered, in relieved tones, ‘especially as I’ve only just had my haemorrhoids fixed from the last time!’

So I say, each to their own and no judging! And let’s have a bit more honesty too, when it comes to the exiting of babies. We all have to live with the consequences of our decisions – both financially and physically. And personally, I don’t want another broken under-carriage, new piles or sneeze-wee. Plus, as the best ‘push present’ I’d get out of my partner would probably be another haemorrhoid ring, so I might as well get him to fork out for the more expensive surgical delivery package. At least I’ll get to lie in bed and watch cable TV for four days. Now that really can’t be bad.

The author of this article wished to remain anonymous. She lives in Dubai and writes a blog called Housewife in Dubai.

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Comments (91 Comments)

  • Well for her, she must be minted. A luxury spa? Private luxury Room?! Eh I had two sections one was an emergency it was exhausting and the recovery was brutal, infections, open wounds that wouldn’t heal and unable to walk laugh sneeze cough for weeks and the hospital room was crammed and basic…by all means write an article about choosing a section but at least make it relevant to the situation in irish hospitals…ie none of the above

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    • Well said Jayniemac, what a pointless article.

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    • I found myself wondering while reading it if it was for real or was it a satire on perceived notions of how the other half live.. The crap about rings reminded me of a joke I heard growing up..

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    • SL 26/11/12 #

      Well said! Very irritating piece. Not surprising the author hid behind anonymity.

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    • Lie in bed and watch cable tv for 4 days….. ? What about dragging Ur ass out of bed every couple of mins to a crying baby, changing, dressing, feeding etc after having major surgery (hoping baby won’t kick u in the wrong spot). Not saying its not an option but its not as rosy as described above.

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    • Great comment Jayniemac. I’d three sections, first because baby wouldn’t come out, second for fetal distress and third because the decision was no longer mine. I had an awful recovery after the third baby, clot in my leg, 6 weeks of blood thinning injections into my tummy. A clot by the way which is a risk of surgery, none of which our anonymous author seems to be concerned about….

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  • Not surprised the author is anonymous. Grating article. A section is no easy recovery. Do you have a chauffeur to drive you about for the 6 weeks after that you’re not allowed to drive? Too posh to be real it sounds like.

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  • C-sections shouldn’t be seen as easy alternative-they’re associated with their own potential complications that you don’t have with a natural birth. This was one of the most irritating “articles” I have ever read. Excuse me while I go and bang my head against a brick wall.

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  • When I had my daughter , abet years ago now , I not not scared … I was terrified. I had never up to that point even being in hospital and that in a way made it worse !
    I emerged after a 12 hour labour , sick , sorry with stitches in unmentionable places ! I was completely drugged up and they had to use both the vacuum and forceps to help my daughter’s safe delivery into the world but I ended up not needing a section . My daughter was born with a vacuum mark on her head and numerous scratches on her face but to be honest they disappeared within a few days . On top of that I developed an infection underneath and had the indignity of needing an Air cushion for 6 weeks after .
    There are times when an a C Section is a medicinal necessity of course but as I held my beautiful daughter in my arms I was so grateful that we had both come through . There is many a woman in the world that have suffered the agony of miscarriage or fertile problems that would have traded gold to be in my position ! As for my daughter I have watched her grow into an incredible woman over the years and neither of us have suffered any long term damage . So my own personal experience is that the hardship of labour was well worth what I gained !!!!!

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  • if you can afford to pay for your section and schedule it in advance, surely that’s the definition of being too posh to push?

    I don’t think you get a choice when you go public, you just swallow down that fear and let nature do its thing.

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  • I think a lot of you are missing the point completely here. As a new mother who had a ‘natural’ birth without pain relief I can honestly say that there was nothing natural about it. My child is almost 4 months old and I am still dealing with problems that were caused during childbirth. I have friends who have had c-sections and were up and running quicker than I was, literally. In fact, I have yet to hear from someone who has had a textbook delivery so for those of you asking how women coped back in the day- many died and I’d day a lot more suffered in silence afterwards. There is nothing natural trying to push out a baby that physically won’t come out – having to be cut and having him pulled from you instead. Furthermore, the aftercare in this country is almost non-existent with the focus being on the child and seldom the mother. For those of you who experienced wonderful births, congratulations but don’t judge women who have not come out so well off!

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  • I had an emergency section with my first daughter and got an which sent me into toxic shock with an infection and was in hospital for 10 days difficult recovery just had my second baby and went into labour and was delighted until I had a uterine rupture and had to be rushed into theatre to have a life saving csection where my baby and i had just a few minutes to survive both of us fine now but another difficult recovery with infection and wound healing for myself bottom line a csection should not be taken as something that is easy or simple! It’s a major surgery like any other surgical procedure!

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  • Actually I think she is very honest and i think people have missed the point of the article being about whatever way you decide to deliver your baby may it be right for you. Also when you have had a bad natural experience there is a certain amount of relief when you have a better experience be it another natural or a Caesarian.
    I had my first son in portlaoise hospital ‘naturally’ and it was horrific! I was left with a broken pelvis and post traumatic stress and was really not prepared for this with a new baby.
    I then decided never to go again but after a number of years and much deliberation and broody hormones decided to brave it.
    I had my 2nd by c section in mt carmel costing me 1500 after trying to go private in portlaoise which would have cost 3000. And this is the point going private and having a very lovely experience didn’t cost me a lot because of their new system – I wouldn’t have been able to afford it previously. The care I received was incredible and wish I had had that experience the first time. by the time I had my 2nd i am now too old to go again. There are lots of people out there who have had wonderful experiences and I envy them but never judge unless you have walked in anothers shoes….

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  • As someone that had an emergency c-section and then au natural I can tell you now that the c-section was much easier on my body and I recovered so much quicker than after the natural birth. I’m saying it’s an excuse for being too posh to push but if the lady in the piece had a traumatic experience I don’t blame her for the fear of it repeating. Having stitches, breaking your tailbone and then having a suffering baby would definitely make me elect for a c-section.

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  • I guess it’s a case of each to their own !!!!!

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  • If the Author or any other expectant mother wishes to have an elective C-section, well then let her.
    Who are we to say that just because we pushed our babies, that she must be forbidden from having any choice in the method of delivery.
    I didn’t realise that we were becoming such a fundamentalist country.

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  • People, have ye no compassion, the woman is scared!! Did ye see the part where she said her coccyx fractured??Why do people have to act the martyr!! If she wants to have a c- section and she can afford it and the service is being provided what is the problem- I hate folks that feel the only proper way to do something is the hardest way possible!!

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    • js1711 26/11/12 #

      I think if she straight out said that I would agree with you but the manner in which she tells her story is condescending and gives off an overly privileged tone. What’s the relevance of the comments about her doctor or about the diamond rings etc? The irritation one feels reading the article outweighs any empathy I feel for her.

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  • Her previous birth sounds like a nightmare, I’d be terrified too.

    Mine was grand, the epidural is the business. took ages, but had a nap when the epidural kicked in, and didn’t feel a thing. No forceps, just a normal birth.

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  • I didn’t have a choice in the matter:c-section both times,very low under the bikini line,really small. My doctor was wonderful:she told me that there was no chance of all natural because there was only 19cm of pushing space for a 53cm baby,and it would be useless to plan anything but c-section. However,we had to wait until I would be officially in labour, until the chief doctor would give his permission for a c-section,because,well,I wasn’t opening enough for a baby to come through.My second had to be a c-section because of similar circumstance plus she came 10days early and apparently I was in labour for two days and when examined the doctor told me I had signs that my uterus was tearing up(and they were 4years apart, plenty of healing time).I had no labour pains with my first until I got to the hospital, so I thought my back was hurting because I worked to much to leave everything ready for my husband.There were a few complications,but praised God my doctor never left my side until I was back to normal. I wish every woman would be so blessed with such a person as their doctor. However, never be too quick to judge:we can’t possibly positively remotely guess what was in our writers heart at during her pregnancy. It is a matter of what you think it’s best at that time. And if we would listen to that little voice of worries that becomes a giant, we will never ever even think to have children, or anything else for that matter.

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  • 2 naturals. 2 sections. Give me natural any day of the week! and the 2nd natural was quite harrowing but was still up and at em quicker than either of the sections. If she was fully aware of the complications that can arise from sections then she would have been more terrified of a section methinks.

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  • My great-grandfather’s father lost his first wife (and one of his twin daughters) as a result of a complicated birth that went terribly, terribly wrong. We are extremely lucky to have C-sections and other medical advances that ensure a higher standard of care for the women in our lives. Please don’t be so quick to judge if a woman has a C-section, you cannot know the full circumstances.

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  • give me natural anyday of the week. (granted both births lasted no more than 2 hrs start to finish).. my 3rd was an emergancy c-section, (premmie baby), but i found the recovery horrific for me. 2 kids at home and baby in icu and i could hardly move.. have to say i would never personaly opt for a section..

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  • i had emergency section 22months ago wit my first daughter my god it wasnt easy at al it just took everyting away from the excitement having her!!! due again next sunday :/ im hopen to have this one on my own fingers crossed, must be great to have money behind ya!!

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  • b flynn 26/11/12 #

    Interesting why what is considered a silly article is receiving such attention !!! Main thing with childbirth is ‘happy mother, happy healthy baby’

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  • also as a midwife said to me “you wouldn’t have a tooth extraction without anesthetic so why push a child out with it”

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  • I have two boys under 2. The first labour was over 30 hours and I had an epidural and 1 stitch. He was over 4kgs. The second flew, I had a couple of puffs of gas and air and he was over 3.5kgs and 3 weeks early. I did feel like I was being ripped apart for a few minutes but then I was holding my baby. Every labour is different and very woman’s pain threshold is different. And if some women can’t cope with the fear I can understand that.
    However, I found this article very annoying to be honest. A c-section is surgery and comes with risks that include death. Also the statement about not wanting stitches down below! Hello surgery=stitches, 6 weeks recovery and can’t drive. I am sure the author is a lovely woman but in this article she comes across as silly.

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  • “Non negotiable twitch of her impressive tache”

    Stopped reading after that. Says everything I need to know about the writer. Whatever about the rights/wrongs of natural/C-section, that is a disgusting uncalled for snark at the doctor.

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    • Colm I am sorry but you just sound very ignorant. If you don’t come from a medicine background don’t make such comments. If you would not be willing to pay $1,500 extra poor of your wife and I am guessing your financial condition do not currently allow you to have kids.

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  • thank you :)

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  • Not surprising the tone of some of these replies. Ireland really is in the stone age when it comes to basic respect for choice, or personal dignity particularly when it comes to pregnant women.

    I don’t get when non medics announce that nobody should be able to choose to have a section. What difference does it make what decision another person makes about their body? maybe like the whole abortion thing you think everyone will be held down and given them against their will!!

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  • No time to wade through the comments but I think the tone of this article is balanced all wrong. There’s nothing light hearted or amusing about the writer’s first birth experience. It sounds horribly traumatic, and I wonder what steps she’s been able to take to get over it, both physically and emotionally? I can completely understand her choice to have a section after it.

    However, I don’t think that the talk of piles and wee and rings ha ha (and ‘the natural birth brigade, ffs) are an appropriate discussion of the topic. Personally I’d be far more interested in analysing why my first birth went so wrong, and how it could have been different, the damage prevented. I’d be looking into ways to stop those things happening again and looking for answers about its mismanagement.

    But I suppose if I was convinced that that was what birth was, then yeah, it would make sense to have a section. Chances are that post-broken coccyx it’s the best option.

    But it shouldn’t be your expectation of labour, for anyone reading this who feels terrified as a result. Birth can be safe, dreamy, trippy, empowering and emotional experience that you might long for again, despite its difficulties. I’ve had two homebirths, and despite my war wounds mourn the fact that I won’t be having any more – I can’t imagine longing for abdominal surgery.

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  • This possibly the most irratating article ever written. I had a 36 hour labour stitched within an inch of my life but never resented the experience as I had a beautiful daughter at the end. I was grateful to experience every minute of it. Of course some woman have to have a c section for medical and psychological reasons but to describe this privileged lifestyle as some how relevant to the rest of us grow up you spoilt brat

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    • Ladies, can we not support each other? Was that not the point the article was trying to make? Everybody experiences things differently and there are no badges handed out at the end. You’re all having a go at her, for being terrified (and choosing another option) while simultaneously recounting your own horror stories? Childbirth is the most daunting thing you can face can’t we encourage each other?
      I’m really tired of women being women’s worst enemy.

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    • As I said I have no problem with the fact some women will need c sections for medical or psychological reasons ie scared shitless but that was not what this article was about. It was an exercise in boasting about her rich lifestyle a million miles from the life of most woman giving birth I have no time for spoilt rich brats be they male or female I will not pretend to agree with someone just because I am the same sex as them. Stupid middle class liberal feminism ill say it again One of the most annoying articles I have ever read

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    • Abbi, I get your point, no way in hell though can any woman walk into a hospital in ireland and say she wants her baby delivered when nana is coming over!

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    • Betty you are pure envy.

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  • I am very happy for the author and I have no doubt that she is happy with her decision and I wish her well. My only problem with the article is the title “not too posh to push” because she clearly is. That’s not a bad thing but trying to claim that’s not what she is is quite frankly ridiculous. She even states when demanding the date for the c-section that she’s paying for the privilege. If you don’t want to push your baby, fine and if c-section is what you want, fine but paying for your health insurance and demanding a medically unnecessary “expensive” c-section because you don’t want to push is, in my opinion, the very definition of “too posh to push”. Be proud of it and grateful that you have the chance. Wishing her a safe delivery in whatever way she chooses.

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  • i wouldnt blame i has my first baby two years ago and was terrible i shouldnt have been allowed to go so far i had over 40 stiches i was tramatised by it all. although i was sharing a room with three women that had sections and its so much harder after you cant move for 24 hours and you cant really do anything for a few weeks . what ever choice suits i think if i was to have another baby i would be very scared i was left with a infection was more painful after . because of all the pain i was in after it took me two weeks to bond with my child so i would consider a section

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  • Who’s to say which is better? What might suit me might not suit you! Had a natural birth, got over it got on with things. My friend had a c section got over things got on with it. It’s never as straight forward as that but god above its not as complicated as some of theses comments

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    • Maria 26/11/12 #

      In fact it is well known that vaginal births are generally better for mother and baby. That is why there is such concern at the high rate of C sections in Ireland.

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    • Maria, in general terms VBAC might be better for mothers and babies. Having mothers trying to deliver for hours, and subjecting the baby tho fetal pain is not better for anyone. Medical guidelines are different in different countries, but they are just that “policies”. I am sorry to hear that Ireland is taking such a fundamentalist approach, I know England is not like that.

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  • i was scared but it was fine. thought it was going to be much worse. it actually is a relief to push and each push is a release…plus i had epidural amazing stuff

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  • js1711 25/11/12 #

    Mom and baby get to bond immediately after a natural birth where no complications have occurred of course. For a section, baby gets taken away and mom gets a couple of hours in recovery baby-less. Anti climatic lonely experience waiting it out in recovery. Unable to feel your body and unable to see your baby. Not allowed out of bed then for a further day. Not allowed eat for a while in case they didn’t put your bladder back in properly. Needing to buzz a nurse to take your baby up to feed. It’s not just the birth that’s unnatural with a section.

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  • It’s not that bad when you’re drugged up ;)

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  • I can completely understand why a woman would want a c section if she had terrable experience before but I had two great natural births and i would be terrified if I was told I had to have a section, obviously children birth is painfully but you forget it soon after and its grand if u use the gas

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  • Half an hour after I had
    My c section my husband was sent home because visiting hours were up, and the nurses were too busy to help me. Still numb from the waist down with a newborn baby beside me who needed changing and fed. Much harder recovery from my first birth which was assisted delivery. Especially with a toddler who I was unable to pick up. This woman’s crazy. Just goes to show you if you have money any scenario is like a “day at the spa”. Well for some. Jeez.

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    • Laura, I understand you did not enjoy your csection experience but that was because of your hospital policies. I had mine and my husband got to sleep I the same room in an extra bed, I always had nurses taking care of me and while not describing it like a day in a spa, can say I do not know pain what so ever.

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  • Natural childbirth?
    Why not natural dentistry?

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    • Because Willie, childbirth is a totally normal, natural event. It is what women were made to do, their bodies know how to do it. Tooth extraction or any other form of dentistry is not a natural event but a medical necessity, totally different.

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    • “It is what women were made to do.” Really? Made by what?

      Death is also a ‘natural event’ but it doesn’t stop us forestalling it by whatever means possible.

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    • Aoife I didn’t know if you are a He or a She because this name is very unfamiliar for me. In case you are a man, you have no say in what woman body is made for. Now a days we experience the lowest dead rates due to child birth and I bet you they are not performed as in the Middle Ages. If you feel so strongly of what our human bodies are supposed to endure, I hope you apply that to your own life not using air conditioning, traveling by car, using pain killers etc. That is the natures way :-)

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  • What is it with recent generations ?
    Its like they believe they have suddenly discovered things that never existed before.
    Remind me how many years women have been having babies again ?
    And before I am red thumbed to death by the double-barrelled surname brigade because I am a man, let me ask ;
    What was it that sustained all the *hundreds of millions* of women of previous generations and where has it gone in Western society ?

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    • Sorry, just have to comment here! I hate when I hear people saying things like ‘in our day we had no pain relief/ immunisation/ running water’ and we were fine. We have advances in medicine and technology to improve our lives. Plenty of people died from measles/child birth/ etc etc in ‘the good old days’. More rose tinted glasses looking back in time here I think.

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    • How very black and white your view is. I guess, being a man, it can be!

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    • Eleen 26/11/12 #

      in previous generations, the greatest killer of women was childbirth and at a pretty high rate too. Biology isn’t so great with us humans – because babies heads are so massive to store our ever growing brains, it causes a lot of complications. The fact that we stand upright all the time doesn’t help either and puts a lot of strain on the woman.

      And for all of those women who survived childbirth – a lot of them sustained life-long injuries that they had to put up with ever after. To be honest, even with our magical medicine, a lot of women still get those injuries.

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  • I had an “emergency” C section (not planned) and As far as they go it was grand, was a bit ragin I didn’t get to try out a natural birth tho lol

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  • I cant believe there are so many people against new procedures. Technology and modern medicine must help people in general and in this case, making easier for women to deliver. Why not? Ireland is still far behind so many countries in its health system, its a bit shocking as being an European country. In Brazil more than 40% of deliveries are a c-section, which helps women to heal faster, plan the deliver, the body recovers better and of course, the cut is usually really small, besides the muscle down there does not get extremely loose. It is so much more frightening the idea of having a baby in normal deliver in the 21st century! And a discussion raised on that even more unbelievable.

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    • Maria 26/11/12 #

      Is that a medical opinion? I can’t see any doctor agreeing with you.

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    • I live in America (USA) and while we don’t have the best public health system the private one is excellent. Here csections are a choice. And Maria 2 out of the 3 ob-gyns I have talked about the subject said they would personally have csections. I understand that Irelands health policy makers have influenced your views, it happen everywhere, just wanted to say they if you are not an obstetrician and don’t know why that is the policy in Ireland (it is cheaper for starters) you shouldn’t take it personally what other women decide. Focus on raising your kids and being a good role model, how they were brought is irrelevant.

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  • This woman is obviously completely naive, after having 1 natural birth and 3 sections i would glady have opted for 3 natural births instead of sections, their is so many complication that can come from sections, i split in 3 place after one of the sections and their was nothing easy about that, recovery time is a hell of a lot longer and if you have other children it can be so frustrating not being able to do as much for them as u normally do or you could do if you had a natural birth. And after recently seeing what a friend went through with her section it quiet literally scared the life out of me she contracted MRSA through the wound and their is nothing posh about that, this woman needs to do some indept reasearch into sections and what exactly is done before during and after and then she might realise that their is nothing easy about them.

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  • I think the issue here is informing women about the risks of C-Section compared to a normal vaginal birth so the woman can make an informed choice.
    There are so many associated risks of Caesarian Section that people don’t realise such as:
    - increased abdominal pain
    - increased risk of bladder injury
    - increased risk of ureteric injury
    - increased risk of hysterectomy
    - increased risk of admission to ICU
    - increased risk of blood clots (same with any surgery)
    - longer length of stay in hospital
    - increased risk of maternal death

    And in future pregnancies:
    - increased risk of having no more children
    - increased risk of placenta praevia in future pregnancy (this is where placenta covers or is dangerously near opening of cervix so mother has increased risk of haemorrhage/bleeding if she goes into labour)
    - increased risk of uterine rupture in future pregnancy
    - increased risk of stillbirth in future pregnancy

    Above all taken from researched evidence in guidelines by the National institute for Clinical Excellence – UK
    (link: http://www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/pdf/CG013NICEguideline.pdf )

    I understand someone who has been traumatised by a difficult normal delivery, such as the author, wanting a C Section but it’s important to realise that it isn’t always the easy way out (excuse the pun!).

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    • Lisa, very true at least some scientifically facts. There are risks associated with VBAC too:

      * sexual dysfunction
      * urinary incontinence
      * fecal incontinence
      * hemorrhoids
      * the not so important fact of esthetics

      Both have risks, I am going to agree with you that csections have more. But VBAC are not free of them.

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  • WTF!!!??

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  • Oh for god sake just woman up and push!

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  • I got p!$$ed off after the first paragraph. That woman has her head screwed on backwards. Talk about 1st world problems???

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  • jn 25/11/12 #

    With my second daughter I was in labour from 9 am Sunday morning till 10.30 pm I was home looking after my older daughter, her dad was in work. I cleaned the house, went for lunch, walked the dog, did last minute shopping. When pain got seriously bad I drove to town to pick him up :) then to hospital, he went back home to put our daughter to bed and get a baby sitter, and did not make it back in time to see Her being born. Had no pain relief and felt fantastic as if the baby came out of nowhere. If I will have another baby, I’ll do it the same way( hopefully)

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  • i have to agree Mary she should just get on with it, what exactly did women do yrs ago yes its painful it’s childbirth what did she expect, and I’ve been there before that’s the next question. I just think picking and choosing a section for reasons other than medical shouldn’t be allowed.

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  • ECP 26/11/12 #

    This article has just nearly scared me out of having a natural birth. That is wrong. Really wrong. Whoever wrote this IS too posh to push, feels bad and guilty for not pushing and is trying to justify a Cesarean by completely
    putting down the validity of a natural birth. I frankly find it disgusting and very hurtful and quite unintelligibly selfish that you would speak of natural birth this way. It sounds to me that the Cesarean had a negative impact on you. Leave it out.

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  • I just find this article quite sad. I really think if this woman did what Jo Murphy suggested and asked questions about her first birth and why it went the way it did, she might reconcile the fear within herself and be in a more positive frame of mind for another natural birth. Also, hypnobirthing would do wonders for her to let go of the fear.

    Women don’t realise that a lot of unnecessary interventions lead to more and more interventions and then suddenly they’re told the baby is “in distress” or there is “failure to progress”. None of that might have happened if they were just left to labour in peace and not interfered with by some medical professionals trying to speed up a natural process to free up the bed for the next woman.

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    • Aoife no offence but it’s a ridiculous statement to make when you say that women were made to give birth. Medical intervention in the western world has saved the lives of many mothers and babies that wouldn’t have survived otherwise. Mortality rates in third world countries are much much lower for obvious reasons and if you do a little bit of research you will see this for yourself. We just don’t hear about it! Hypno birthing? Seriously? That’s your solution for someone who is petrified? I went to ante natal classes and thought I had loads of options and in the end I had none. Had I not been in a hospital I don’t know what would have happened to me or my baby. I don’t think people realise how traumatic it can be unless they have experienced something like that for themselves. It’s all very well and good for the people who have had no problems to roll their eyes and say get on with it… Trust me, if you were to experience what I experienced you would want to be mad to want to try it again! I suggest reading up on the topic before you comment any further. It will be an eye opener for you when you do.

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    • I meant higher mortality rates in third world countries.

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  • For all those who think that Csections should not be taken lightly I hope you are such strong advocates against plastic surgery. Boob jobs, nose jobs etc are serious medical procedures.

    So you know the health system is in favor of vaginal delivery because it is cheaper, or at least that is one of the reasons. It is true that the “to posh to push” movement portrays women in a certain way. Who are you to criticize? You want to go under 20 hours of labor, have your vagina ruined so you and your husband won’t feel a thing when having sex, have hemorrhoid a, be more exposed to have urinary or fecal in contingency WONDERFUL because that is your choice. If you want an elective csections, your ob-gyn is on board do it and ignore the people who pass judgement. The delivery does not define the quality of motherhood.

    An other interesting fact is that VBAC implies more fetal pain…. Do you think that babies love to struggle for hours before they are borne, that is why VBAC babies look so purple. And men with no background in medicine you shouldn’t be commenting on this matter.

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  • Hypno-birthing – the best way to go au naturel!

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  • who would want an evassive stomach operation? give birrh natrual and be fine a day later or cut the kid out and have to worry about splitting open for the next few weeks.

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  • is that a jubbly or a belly?

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    • Just as we’ll this is anonymous, I just want to punch her lights out! I had two natural births and both were almost drug free, very positive experiences. Ok the first was tough! New mothers should know that this silly person’s experience is not typical! Mothers have been pushing babies out since the dawn of time! And what’s with the insulting remarks about her doctor??

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    • Well tell other women who have been left physically and mentally damaged by the experience that! You have had a positive experience that has given you this outlook. Women who have not been so fortunate are entitled to express their opinion and not be given the ‘women have been giving birth for centuries’ speech. It is simply unrealistic to believe that things are that simple. Why then, is there a need for emergency c-sections, episiotomies etc and why do women suffer from pelvic floor prolapse, fistulas, tears if our body was ‘made for it’? I’m sick of hearing people harp on about it being the most natural thing in the world. Do your research first and then you will see how widespread such problems are. I support a woman’s right to choose what happens to her own body.

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    • Grace, of course, you are right and I apologise for my outburst. Some women have to have c sections and thank goodness they are available. I think what annoyed me most was the tone of the article, very condescending towards anyone who might consider a vaginal birth and downright insulting to her doctor! I just think it is not right to scare new mothers into thinking that natural or vaginal birth is dangerous. Thankfully, in most cases it’s painful, yes; but works out fine. Plus not all c sections are complication free. I have a friend who has suffered for years from post section problems.

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