Haha! Noticed that aswell.

Laura, I was just thinking thats a bit rich coming from a knickers salesperson !

Misandry – the hatred or dislike if men and boys.

Misanthrop=the hatred of people
Mistake =the hatred of steak?

yup they are in Massimos, I always thought the design was based on the rolling stones mouth logo.

lip urinals are a tasteless, yet creative idea, lol’s

Yes. I’ve seen them in a few places in Scotland and I think somewhere here too. It’s just a bit of fun. No offence intended to anybody.

… except for women of course

I agree men and women should be treated equally just like from Jan 2013 men and women will pay the same for insurance

Look there are things designed to cause offense and there are some things that are supposed to be a bit of laugh. This is the latter. Come on people if you can’t laugh at yourself then you must have no sense if humor.
If there was a male equivalent I’d laugh it off it’s not like they’re targeting anyone personally.

Right iv enough, im going to write a strongly worded letter to someone about the straws shaped like a part of the male anatomy that we all see at hen nights!!! its an example of Misandry…..:)

I think that’s gross too David!

Denise, did you miss the bit about where these were designed by a woman.

Arguing that a novelty pisser is “art, science, or something of value” is a tough row to hoe.

Best of luck with it.

Indeed, all the men joking about it above definitely seem quite uneasy and not at all dismissive of the symbolism.

I’d be very surprised if any male in the world is thinking of artistic symbolism as he takes a piss in a restaurant stephanie.

And artistic symbolism is subjective no?

@ Stephanie I’m making a joke of this whole discussion..small minded people running down something that was designed by women you won’t have to use one ever..maybe they are magic toilets and when you use one it turns you into a rapist

And that’s especially wrong when you consider the widespread oppression of men, the fact that they get lower wages, are regularly beaten up by their partners, sexually harassed on the street and that in 2010 one in every 10,000 men was raped.

Oh wait, that’s women.

Stephanie the above also applies to men, perhaps not as widespread as it is for women but it still happens!!!

Actually Ryan the above applies to some men but the numbers aren’t even close. Not to mention the fact that there isn’t a country in the world where any of those things would be legally allowed when applied to men, for women on the other hand…

Oh and by the way, the above statistic is one in 10,000 women in Ireland.

+1000000

Regardless: I don’t think lip shaped urinals are the cause of those issues or adding to them to be honest!

@Stephanie
“are regularly beaten up by their partners”

Bit of an over generalization I’d say.

@ Stephanie your part of the problem making big issues from a meaningless joke you will never have to look at one unless your a peeping Mary skulking around lads jacks..as your reference to rape is completely unjustified in the context of a urinal discussion clutching at straws throwing in any argument to help..mole hill into mountain springs to mind

Stephanie, I’m sure any male rape victims out there would be massively offended by your insensitivity to their sexual assault simply because they represent a minority.

Rape is Rape is Rape

(I think we are getting off subject)

Stephanie – you are making massive generalisations. I don’t know how you figure it out but women do not get paid lower than men. Maybe for your generation it is still an issue, but for mine it is not.

You are making this out into a Man Vs Woman issue. You talk about reported cases of domestic violence or rape against women as if its a competition. “we got more rapes on our side than you did” is what your position sounds like. The fact is that the majority of men who are in violent relationships with women or men do not report the violence because of the shame associated with it. Very few men who have been raped report it.

Women have access to well established, well funded and relatively powerful support groups and organisations. Women who have been abused have a voice and support. Men don’t.

And at the end of the day, its a bloody toilet. If I need to go, I’m not really gonna care what it looks like. There are far more important issues to be sorted out.

We’re all a bit sad really.Why did it have to greet into a gender debate when the bottom line is that those urinals are in bad taste (no pun intended) and seriously juvenile. I don’t think they are there to put women down just a lousy joke.

Also, I think it’s a bit sensational to suggest that any women was raped over the Humbly Dory ads. It’s just an ad and that comment is offensive.

Sexualisation of women is more to the fore I guess. Sex sells whether it’s men or woman involved. Just because an ad sexualises men doesn’t mean it justifies it when women are involved (and vice versa of course). I have to say I found the hunky dory ad very distasteful myself (just speaking for myself, not all women!) and that it might not do much for how women are viewed in sport either.

Winston where exactly was I insensitive towards the rape of men? Of course rape is rape, no matter what the gender of the victim. And I don’t think it’s off topic, I think it’s part of the context for why this is creepy as hell.

Actually Stephanie, most sources state that around 40% of all sexual assault victims under the age of 18 are boys. Furthermore, in sexual assault cases with a female perpetrator, only 2% will end up with a jail sentence. Finally, there are many who don’t believe that males can be victims of sexual assault, or that females can be perpetrators, and male victims are much more likely to receive hostile treatment should they speak up.

So kindly don’t shoot of at the hip with every post.

Btw for the record: The urinals are tacky, and a bit pathetic.

and speaking as a man it is fun to pee into things, simple pleasures :)

Ryan look at comments further up, Laura etc. my comment IS

related to this article

There was a technical error another comment of mine appeared under your comment but is now gone…. So second comment seems out of place!

It’s part of a wider issue, that of women being seen as objects. The artist may have intended it as a joke but she has overlooked the symbolism of a man pissing in the mouth of woman who can’t object to it. Women being seen as objects is a major problem in Australia, and in Ireland for that matter. Any guy who comes on here faffing on about women making a big deal out of nothing and women aren’t seen as objects will have a hard time continuing to do so when he counts up the number of his female companions who have been groped in public without their permission. The problem is the image created of a woman who is unable to object to a man simply treating her as he deems fit. Women aren’t the only ones offended by this, I know a fair few lads who would object to those being the only urinals available.

Look lads, enjoy the laugh if you must but just try and consider how a rape victim would feel for a second please?

And this is different to all the novelty vibrators sold by the likes of Ann summers? Or the novelty willies you see women wearing on hen nights?

As has been said already, there are loads of real issues to tackle. This is a non issue. Stop turning this into a men vs women thing. It’s not.

What about Willy Whistles on hen nights. Chocolate penises and that women thatthought it was funny when reached between my legs and groped me when I was trying to carry 3 pints to my wife and her mates. Surely all that’s misandry then?

Lads, if a girl wants to use a novelty vibrator there is no reason why a man souks be offended. If a woman in using a ‘willy straw’ on a hen night the imaginary man is the receiver of sexual gratification.

In this case the urination into the supposed mouth of a woman cannot be but degrading.

I’d hate to have to bring my son into one of these Loo’s and have to explain the reference.

If anything they are base, unimaginative and appeal to the easily amused.

Is a sense of general decency too much to expect?

Yes, it is indeed misandy. And I think all those things both of you have listed are terrible too. I’ll never understand why women complaining about things like this are given examples of sexual assault or objectification of men with an implication that they’re fine with it because it’s happening to men. I’m not. You being groped was abhorrent and I’ve nothing but contempt and disgust for the person who did it.

I also don’t think anything is a “men vs. women” issue, I neither said nor implied that, you’ll notice above that I said I know many men who will be appalled by this also. I should also point out that when I said “lad” I mean it in the very Irish, “hey everybody” sense.

I’d say you’re some craic Stephanie

Thanks Stephanie and Winston for bringing some intelligence and empathy to the thread. I notice a man and a woman have both expressed a similar opinion here and that the man has received a favourable response while the woman has been downvoted massively. Funny that.

Wow Stephanie,
From urinals to rape victims in one easy sentence.
The clichés are always great to fall back on when the argument doesnt hold water.

Not so at all Lynda. Stephanie seems to be suggesting a link between using these, admittedly unfunny, toilets and crimes against women. It’s ludicrous. Which is why her comments received a lot of red thumbs. My comment pointed out the harmless fun women have with silly willies and such and nobody does or should take offence. Life is much too short to be getting upset about everything, save that for the stuff that actually harms people.

@man well maybe instead of women’s issues how about people’s issues?

I went to the urinal….
But they offended my delicate sensibilities and I had to use the stall.
#FirstWorldProblems

@ ?.?
I’m not sure of your point?

Yeah Vinnie, clearly I must be a no-fun arsehole because I think having something you piss in shaped like a woman’s mouth is creepy.

Hi jim ahh jim ahh jim, if my argument has no substance how about you argue against it instead of just criticising it? And since when is rape a cliche? I think my point that someone who has been raped would not find the idea of someone pissing in something shaped like a person’s mouth is quite substantial actually.

You’ll definitely miss ‘andy if they didn’t replace the urinals…

Well said Winston. Having fun, celebrating sex and laughing at it is one thing, but this is completely different.

Well said Winston. Having fun, celebrating sex and laughing at it is one thing, but this is completely different.

They were actually designed to look like Mick Jagger’s Lips!

Well said. Down with radical feminist extremists.

@fleetingwhim: women are disproportionately portrayed as sex object & 90% are on magazines because they are attractive? Who makes these choices? Women of course! I’m sure many women would be the first to argue if they had no choice, and rightly so! Women are clever you know! :-)

O_o

Do you really think the majority of men are that immature?? “Oh no, there is moustache on the urinal…i best piss myself instead because i might catch the gay from using it!”

Grow up! Most men don’t give a crap about this kind of stuff because there are real more important issues to sort out. Its like the giant abercrombie poster that was beside trinity college. A huge giant topless torso of an athletic bloke….it wasn’t taken down because of complaints from men, it got taken down because of some building regulation. The female presenter on Newstalk breakfast was complaining about it being taken down because he was lovely to look at.

Now if the Sun decided to put a giant poster advertising their paper with a topless page 3 model. It would have been taken down the day it was put up. It would be obscene and offensive to a small majority of women. If a male radio presenter had of said how lovely it was to look at, there would be calls for his head and he would be out of a job by the end of the week.

As the majority of men and women here have said, its a toilet…get over it.

@fleetingwhim, i didnt thing attitudes like that still existed. You think men wouldnt urinate in them had they been shaped like a male mouth for fear of catching “gayness”. Oh dear. You sound like a feminist extremist crossed with a bible belt preacher.

You’re both being really disingenuous in your responses to my post. I obviously don’t think you can ‘catch gay’ off a urinal, all I’m saying is that lots of men wouldn’t be so comfortable/blase about it if it was an obviously male mouth they were pissing into, complete with stubble and/or a moustache. At the very least, a lot of them would go ‘ugh’ rather think it was funny. Do you think there is no significance at all to the fact it’s a female looking mouth?

King Olaf: I take your point about the poster, but the reason women object to this sort of stuff is that women are disproportionately portrayed in that way – as sex objects – whereas men being portrayed in that overtly sexualised, depersonalised way is still somewhat unusual in the sense that most images we see of men are not sexualised, whereas the vast majority of images of women are. It’s the constant bombardment and lack of balance that’s the problem, not either gender being portrayed in a sexualised way some of the time. Take for example going into a newsagents, men are magazine covers as musicians, sportspeople, politicians, businessmen etc., whereas 90% of women are there because they’re attractive.

I also don’t think it’s true a male dj would be sacked as you say as there is a lot more tolerance for sexist attitudes than that implies. It’s still ok to be sexist in a way that it’s not ok to be racist or homophobic.

Its a freaking toilet….not a big deal.

Just because the design of the lips are painted with lipstick you presume it to be a female pair of lips. So do you think women should have to wear lipstick or that men should not be allowed? If people want to be offended by something, be offended by the fact you are pissing in a human mouth. There is no way to truly tell if these lips are female or male.

There is no accounting for taste but isn’t that the nature of art. I don’t particularly like it myself, but who am I to decide. Maybe it is stupid….maybe it is offensive….if that is the case take your business elsewhere. The only reason it could be sexist is because some people want to find it sexist by presuming only women should wear lipstick.

Yeah, who does this WOMAN think she is creating it like that!

That reply wasnt meant for this comment! :/

She. The designer is a woman.

Well I have always found the Dutch to be a bit odd.remember that fella that cut his ear off.