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Does Roisin Shortall have confidence in James Reilly?

The junior health minister is asked – FOUR times – whether she has confidence in her superior, and doesn’t say Yes…

Relations between Roisin Shortall and James Reilly are thought to have become strained since their appointment 16 months ago.
Relations between Roisin Shortall and James Reilly are thought to have become strained since their appointment 16 months ago.
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FIANNA FÁIL HAS called for clarification on the “policy differences” that exist between the Minister for Health, James Reilly, and a junior minister at his Department.

The call follows Roisin Shortall’s refusal to state her confidence in Reilly in a radio interview this morning – instead repeatedly saying that she and Reilly “need to work through the policy”.

The interview, on Newstalk’s Breakfast show, saw host Chris Donoghue ask Shortall on four occasions whether she had full confidence in James Reilly, following revelations about health overspending and the departure of HSE chief executive Cathal Magee.

“We have a working relationship within the Department,” she said the first time, saying Reilly had “his areas of responsibility, I have my areas of responsibility, as does [the other junior minister] Kathleen Lynch… we work on that”.

Pressed a second time, Shortall said:

We need to work through some of the policy issues, there’s no doubt about that… I think we need to communicate better on that. [...]

There is no room for personality differences.

Asked again, the Labour minister merely affirmed that the two “need to work through the policy in relation to the future of the health service.” When questioned a fourth time, she said: “We need to work through the policy.”

The Dublin North-West TD had earlier said it was “very wrong to think that [any disputes between herself and Reilly] is a personality issue”, saying the two dealt with each other “on a professional level”.

This is not about personality. That’s a kind of lazy way of addressing the issue. This is about the kind of health service that we have.

Tensions between the pair had been underlined last week when Shortall issued an individual press release following news of Magee’s departure, saying she regretted learning “from media reports” that Magee was to step down.

This evening Fianna Fáil’s health spokesman Billy Kelleher insisted there was a “growing gulf” between the pair, which was worrying given the “chaos” in the sector at present.

“Minister Shortall has now admitted that his is not about a personality difference between herself and Minister Reilly, but that significant ‘policy issues’ need to be worked through,” Kelleher said.

“Patients will be alarmed that there are such fundamental differences between the Ministers running, and supposedly reforming, their health services.”

Kelleher called for the two to meet and discuss their disagreements as a matter of urgency.

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Comments (50 Comments)

  • Gerard 23/07/12 #

    I heard the interview, sounded like she hates James Reilly with a passion. Just my observation.

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    • Can’t blame her.

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    • I would agree with that. She was certainly unprofessional on the show. If a board member in a private company spoke that way about the CEO in public they would be gone…For me the Junior Minister is a excellent worker but a poor media person.

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    • Well Declan, she is not part of a company board. Shes a junior minister in a government elected on the promise of openness and transparency, who had to find out from the media that the head of the HSE was resigning, her senior minister having known for days and not passed on the information.

      Shes every right to be hopping mad.

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  • The posting by Sean Armstrong is accurate and correct, all the medical staff at every level work harder than most to keep the system going, what we cannot afford is not the medical staff or equipment,it’s the managerial structures of the systems, they must change utterly, and perhaps the tensions in the present government may be a blessing in disguise , the former FF/PD policy of resolving everything by more management and less medical appointments ,did not work even with wasteful funding. We need somebody to be critical and ask questions in the knowledge that we cannot just spend our way out, Shorthall may even have the wrong end of the stick and Reilly has no money, together they may correct the imbalance,even inadvertently, by their differences. We,for too long, have a unified no questions asked “yes man” ,”yes minister” approach, the present differences may assist, I hope.

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  • Everything is political except politics which is personal.

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  • @Sean. Agreed. You are the frontline. The sooner pen pushers who wander in to start their day at 9.30 and wander back out at 5 , who get a lunch hour and tea breaks realise that they are NOT the frontliners the better. Good on you Dr. There is no voice speaking for you or any of the doctors who work in excess of 80 hours while HSe staff have 39. The IMO will not represent you. Good luck my good man. I hear you

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  • * Fianna Fail smells blood and its trying to capitalise.
    * Roisin Shortall is playing a game of political correctness while also playing a PR game.
    * Reilly is just screwing up!
    * Behind the PR image of togetherness, FG and Labour are starting to fall apart.

    Move around all the party names – and we have all been here before.
    The real losers is the public – additionally while this farce of a government continues!

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  • Surely we should have a minister for health that actually looks healthy….

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  • Let be honest…..only a mother could love him.

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  • She’s playin the game, he’ll get the chop when this directorate bs falls on it’s ass, then she is sitting pretty!

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  • Well, Labour Party, if you lie down with dogs…..

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    • He is impossible to work with. Never was there a minister of health that is so distrusted and disliked within both the hse and dept of health. For once micheal Martin is right he is volatile and parochial the interest of his constituency over rides the national and above all else his ego comes first

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    • How quickly we forget Mary Harney…

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    • Bettie Lou, his tough stance is exactly what the health service needs. The staff seem to take sick days for the craic and its top heavy with management. He is not going to be popular for the changes he needs to make, but they need to be made.

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    • Gerard 23/07/12 #

      I don’t think anybody forgets Mary Harney David, but please tell us all, how is James Reilly any better?

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    • Minister Reilly is just carrying on with Mary Harneys ideal of privatising the health service. The lies he told pre election were a disgrace. To stand near to tears and bellow out that he is a doctor and his patients come first is sickening. Post election all his promises are forgotten. He is arrogant and hell bent on privatising the health service to his own agenda. He will, after all, profit from it. Also, the fact that he and Minister Hogan could sit down over a pint of guinness and strike out some rules that must be adhered to regarding nursing homes. 6 nursing homes in Minister Hogans constituency are allowed to remain open without a full time nurse present at all times. Would you like your parents in these homes, with no qualified nurse present at night? Amazing that these regulations could be wiped out with the stroke of a pen by the Minister. But then again, he is a doctor and patients come first, right?

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  • Who does have confidence in him?

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  • I had great hope for O Reilly. But sorry he is just not cutting it. He lost any bed side manner he might have had a long time ago. Although his job is really impossible. Poacher turned gamekeeper. Doesn’t work

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    • Pat
      I thought when he was in opposition he would be great, but sadly that has definitely not been the case, he’s useless. Not only does management in health service need a shake up, but as someone said previously, the technology used beggars belief, should be almost paperless, charts should be on line etc. I work in a hospital, and most private companies I worked in previously had better ‘systems’, just makes for loads of needless and tedious work, where time could be better spent. Like something out of the dark ages!

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  • I know it is fundamentally wrong to judge people on appearances but our current and previous choices for health ministers are taking equal opportunities to a new level.

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  • he is healthy…for a furbee!

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  • Drumm was happy to Tango with Harney. Cathal Magee could have addressed HSE problems but for political interference. James Reilly is firefighting personal debts. Roisin Shortall is biting her tongue. Union and doctor workpractices ensure inefficiencies and pay levels far in excess of Europe. Don’t get sick anytime soon!

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    • “doctor work practices”??? What part of my f*****g 80 hour working week, where I go from bed to work to bed again, all to try to help those who need my skills, says inefficient? Overpaid? Get real. Tar us all with the same brush and see what sort of health service you get… Can’t wait for the Neanderthals moaning about 3rd world healthcare – google any 3rd world country and then shut your mouth

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    • Wow Sean, you sound like you have a fantastic bedside manor

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    • You’re dead right Sean. The people moaning about doctor’s inefficiencies haven’t the slightest notion of the work done in hospitals across the country by junior doctors, with an ever increasing number of hours going unpaid. The BS that comes from people who know next to nothing about the Health Service yet think they have the solution to it, is astounding.

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    • Worst thing to do Sean is react, government been trying to turn private workers on public with bullshit for the last few years and it’s pretty bad on this site

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    • @Sean… You’re right. The problem in the system is problem at mangerial level and a total lack of pretty straight forward technology.
      There is bottleneck which result in serious shortages and other areas of under utilisation.
      The Health Service is meant to be a consumer focused organisation. Some simliar to a CRM (Customer Relationship Management) system could help considerably. It is used in all other customer focused businesses…
      It could offer transparency in how service is delivered and then is should be realtively simple to compare different areas to see the bottlenecks quicker. This type of analysis is used in call centers, Support depts….
      It would also take away the need for the endless administration staff as everything could be held electronically with patients records held one one daatbase. This could mean you would walk into a hospital or any agent of healthcare (GP, Chemist…) and your records come right up. Just like walking into a bank and doing business…

      This is not a complete pipe dream and has been done in many places before us… The VA (Vet Affairs) in USA or Denmark have already achieved thia and have shown huge increases in effiency.

      ‘If you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it’

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    • “fantastic bedside manor” – I wish :)

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    • Coyboy…its the media that has been doing that not the Goverment. And well said Sean but i would not expect too much sympathy from the SF or ULA heads that infest this website.

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    • Infest is right

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  • My god I’ve no love lost for O’Reilly and his bull headedness but please please please don’t allow shorthall to profit from this, she only stands to serve herself :(

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  • Fiachra you have three minutes to tell us in one sentence what this Junior Minister has achieved since her appointment or are you just another Labourhead.

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  • Dr Reilly should have resigned weeks ago – zero credibility !
    If he was the equivalent Minister in the UK he would at best be a Backbencher by now , or else would have resigned his seat altogether.
    He , not having gone, has already undermined the slim chances that the Coalition can last its full term.
    Labour Members know full well already that they will get wasted in the next election, having coalesced with a rightwing Party like FG.

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  • someone who doenst like their boss, who cares.

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  • Who cares what that idiot Shorthall thinks? Just another nobody going about making a lot of noise trying to get noticed. Idiot.

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  • Roisn to Chris,” That would be an Ecumenical Matter.”

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  • Does Roisin Shorthaul consider herself the woman for the long, hard road?

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